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Published: Tuesday, May 28 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Last I checked nobody supports forcing you to have a same-sex marriage... (we all know this is what you're referring to).

isrred
South Jordan, UT

"It is the constant attempts to enforce views that are contrary to what I hold sacred that causes me personally to lose a lot of respect toward certain people."

And you passing laws and using the force of government to IMPOSE your sacred beliefs onto others who don't share them is more tolerant than what you belittle the other side for doing?

If you believe being gay is against your sacred beliefs, then don't get married to someone of your same-sex. Nobody is forcing you to violate your "sacred" beliefs in your own life an actions. Sorry, but your sacred beliefs don't get to dictate the behavior of others who don't believe as you do.

okeesmokee
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I find it interesting that the first two comments assumed the letter writer was referring to same sex marriage. Intolerance is manifested in a myriad of other issues, but those promoting same sex marriage tend to believe that every discussion, every article, every news story is focused on this issue. That is narrow minded indeed.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

If confronting the lies and deceit of those that actively seek to oppress others through the force of law makes me intolerant then so be it .

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

It seems we must "tolerate" everything in order to be tolerant! Unless of course you are the person or group demanding tolerance then its ok to be intolerant. In other words, tolerance is so one sided in America. Just ask Mitt Romney.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

" It is the constant attempts to enforce views that are contrary to what I hold sacred ..."

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And yet, you are intolerant of those who hold a different view than yours. Your "sacred" must be held sacrosanct, thus preventing others from the benefits you possess. Your "sacred" requires that others are denied their own "sacred" because it differs from yours.

This letter decrys intolerance, and yet is the epitomy of intolerance.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

There are many issues where defense of religious values results in out-sized negative reactions. Sometimes those seem to seek the silencing of any who would speak out - a chilling of speech. For the person of religion, the question of how to maintain good relations with neighbors and community while not capitulating on moral standards is knotty.

On a personal level, many of us are taught tolerance as a virtue. We seek to get to know the person rather than see them simply as the representative of a political or moral issue. But on a wider level, we feel the sands being pulled from under our feet by an outgoing tide of decay. We wonder about how our communities and nation will survive these changes.

In all of this, respect is key. I associate with many folks I respect yet disagree with. We are able to have good discussions and disagree about important issues but maintain a civility because we retain respect for one another. I would not seek to silence them. They do not seek to silence me. We even seek each other out to better understand an issue. Yet, we continue to disagree.

Respect is hard but worthwhile.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Maybe it's not same sex marriage that our letter writer is finding intolerance on. Like me, maybe he wants to build a casino here.

Maudine
SLC, UT

In the words of Karl Popper, "Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary...."
The Open Society and Its Enemies, Vol. 1, Notes to the Chapters: Ch. 7, Note 4

I claim the need for tolerance of religions I disagree with and am intolerant of those who would suppress the religious rights of others. I claim tolerance of social issues and am intolerant of those who would use pass laws prohibiting behaviors which cause no social farm beyond an offense to those who disapprove of the behavior. I am intolerant of intolerance.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Whose law? When man thinks that it is "politically correct" to redefine the law of gravity, just who is he fooling?

Tolerance does not require that we accept someone's redefinition of the word "red" to be "green". They have every right to foolishly redefine words, but redefining a word doesnot redefine the underlying law.

The intolerant tell us that they want special privileges for themselves. They tell us that their new way of thinking requires all of the world to abandon established norms so that they can be appeased.

Obama is trying to redefine the word, "truth". If we don't agree, we are labeled "racist".

The I.R.S. is trying to redefine the words "fair" and "impartial". If we don't agree, we are the "far right fringe".

Many in Congress have tried to redefine the word "honest". If we don't agree, then we are caught in the world that existed before "situational ethics" were accepted by government.

Are we intolerant if we disagree with those who mock us and eternal verities?

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@mountainman

So then when pastor Jeffers refered to romany's religion as a "cult" and argued thart is why the GOP should not nominate him you of course said nothing so as not to be intolerant of the pastor right? Is speaking out against bigotry intolerance?

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

I agree, there is a lot of intolerance out there. I remember when our last president totally devalued those who disagreed with him on iraq. "youre either with us or against is he said."

where was His tolerance then? sad.

At local caucuses, one who doesn't agree with a tea party like agenda is labeled a commie and belittled. Why? Just because I don't think social security should be privatized? We see so much intolerance and hate on the tv. Just remember back to the Mia Love campaign. In it, how many ideas or solutions did she provide compared to the cheap attacks against her opponent? I almost felt like I heard more about her opponent in her campaign ads than herself!

What about nationally? Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are constantly yelling and berating others in the radio. Absolutely no tolerance there. Is what they say really supposed to promote a civil reaction? Nope. They are merely trying to make money.

Which is one of our worst problems here in this country. Too many value money above tolerance. Too money value gold over people. Too many value popularity over doing what is right. Hopefully, this changes soon.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

The only people afraid of tolerance are bigots.

GZE
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

"Tolerance" is actually a really ugly word. Let's work on "acceptance"

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Years ago, George Orwell wrote about the Ministry of Peace and the Ministry of Love. I suggest that Utah create a Ministry of Tolerance. It would be widely supported.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

I'm a married, white, male, Mormon, born and raised here.

Do me a favor --
Tell people you either did not vote for Mitt Romney or you think recycling is a good idea at church,
Then come back and lecture me about the "tolerance" here in Utah.

[I could not BEGIN to imagine being a Gay, Female, Catholic, Hispanic, Democrat living here.]

Convert
Cedar City, UT

Mr. Green, you misinterpreted the George Eliot quote: "The responsibility of tolerance lies with those who have the wider vision."

In Eliot's view, if you are broad-minded you have a responsibility to be tolerant. If you have knowledge and understanding of a wide range of social conditions, you need to be tolerant.

The recent discussions on tolerance have urfaced since Elder Packer's talk related to legalized gay marriage and going too far with tolerating immorality.

Elder Oaks has also focussed on this morality delimma. He points out that religious freedom requires tolerance of other's freedom of belief, whether they be Protectant, Hindu, Muslim, Sihk, etc.

We must stand up for ourselves, but also for others in our free society. Thus, tolerance is essential in our society.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Tolerance does not require that we accept someone's redefinition of the word "red" to be "green".

The intolerant tell us that they want special privileges for themselves. They tell us that their new way of thinking requires all of the world to abandon established norms so that they can be appeased.

Are we intolerant if we disagree with those who mock us and eternal verities?

8:42 a.m. May 28, 2013

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No,
You are intolerant by telling someone they are not welcome in your neighborhood because they are different.
You are intolerant when you won't hire someone meeting all job qualifications, but they have darker skin, or a boy-friend.
You are intolerant when you won't invite a gay couple over to your house for dinner.

Try reading the Bible,
and tell me who and how Jesus dealt with those being shunned...even the "sinners" caught in the very act.

But your comments,
I can very easily picture you at the very front of the line at the public stonings with the biggest pile of rocks....

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

LDS Liberal,

Can't say how it is there. Here in "the mission field" I know good members who did not vote for Mitt. As for recycling? My bins are full right now.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mountanman
Hayden, ID
It seems we must "tolerate" everything in order to be tolerant!

[I can't help you. Look up the definition of 'tolerant', and it's opposite - 'intolerance' it's right there.]

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