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Published: Friday, May 24 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

One of the principles of those wanting to gut the neighborhood election caucus meeting and convention system we have in Utah, was this: " A system that provides inherent advantages to those who are incumbent, wealthy or famous is not acceptable."

The problem is their proposals would do exactly that.

The Caucus System in Utah is the best way to make sure grass roots movements can work over large amounts of money. It is the only way someone with $100,000 can go against someone with $2,000,000 in election funds.

There were about 120,000 republicans in Utah that went to the neighborhood caucus elections in 2012 to elect the 4000 State Delegates. Add to those numbers the democrats and the primary elections. Certainly the municipal elections didn't do any better in voter representation.

Bypassing the Caucus / Convention System will NOT create more participation. There are 4000 state delegates that spend countless hours vetting candidates to be on the ballot. They are selected by those that attend the neighborhood election caucus meeting. You just have to attend.

The current system does not protect the incumbent, wealthy or famous. I think that is a good thing.

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

The 60% threshold to avoid a primary works, allowing a shot of a challenger to eliminate an incumbent and yet requires a challenger to be a strong candidate.

Based on the state gop released stats since 2000 for state wide or congressional races, at 60%, threshold to avoid a primary, 1/2 of contested races went to primary. If at 2/3, 67% of contested races go to a primary and at 70%, 70% of the races go to primary.

70% would not have helped Sen. Bennett in 2010. He was not in the top 2 coming out of convention. In fact the more moderate Tim Bridgewater was selected by 57% of the delegates in the last round. Mike Lee managed to get 43% and make it to a primary. Sen. Bennett endorsed Tim Bridgewater during the primary, but with voters ticked at TARP and ObamaCare, they went with Mike Lee.

Sen. Hatch just barely missed eliminating Dan Liljenquist by hitting just under the 60%, and Jason Chaffetz just missed eliminating Chris Cannon by hitting just under 60%.

The current system does not protect the incumbent, wealthy or famous. I think that is a good thing.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

"CMV is willing to spend a lot of money ($1 million) in a campaign to have the state impose their ideas on all political parties. Why doesn't CMV spend money on research that supports its ideas and educate parties rather than threaten to expand the power of the state."

I wish this same mentality applied towards guns and clean energy.

It's funny how repubs don't like it when lobbyists attempt to bribe politicians for stuff they disagree with. Like this caucus stuff. they hate how lobbyists are bribing politicians. Yet, where was this outrage a few weeks ago when the wishes of the 90 percent were crushed by the big money of the NRA?

Repubs are totally fine when lobbyists bribe politicians to go against gun regulation or clean energy.

Soooo sometimes bribery is good and other times it is bad? Huh?

I just wish I could see some consistency from the right.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

"One thing that Washington, Adams, Madison and Jefferson all agreed on was don't create political parties. And the parties they had in that day were things where a few people got together on three issues, four issues, five issues, but not like what we have today, permanent factions, Republicans, Democrats always on opposite sides. and the founders all warned against that.

Q: What has happened to the parties?

EDWARDS: over time they got to be where they're in control of who gets to be on the ballot. So they have closed party primaries, where a small segment of the electorate gets to decide who is the most pure candidate they have got.

And then what happens is, because of sore loser laws that they got passed in most states, the person who lost the primary can't be on the ballot in November, even though that may be the choice of most of the voters in the state. And so you end up with candidates who are not really representative. There are hard-liners, non-compromisers, and they're the people that eventually go to Washington."
(PBS)

R-Mickey Edwards served 16 years in the House representing Oklahoma.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Private organization should have the right to choose their internal membership, leadership and candidates for the outside world.

People in general as citizens of a government should have that right also.

An important part of that right would be the rules and regulation as specified by the people of how, when and where the government leaders are to be selected.

I believe that any citizen, otherwise qualified, should be allowed to apply for the jobs of representing the people and that the requirements for money, religion or ethnic status, be eliminated in favor of affiliation, education, training and experience.

Political campaigns should be abolished in favor of a written and published personal resume similar to that used in the private world to seek employment. The resume to be published so that every voter may have access to it. No other campaigning would be allowed.

Voting would occur in a single statewide election where the voter specifies his affiliation to support and the candidates for that affiliation.

Counting the votes first by affiliation to determine the percent of available jobs to be given each affiliation and then by candidates of those affiliations.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

I hope this letter writer shows the same integrity to support the Boy Scouts.

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