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Published: Thursday, May 23 2013 3:00 p.m. MDT

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Tyler D
Meridian, ID

Here we go... get ready for a stream of pseudo-lessons on the 1st amendment... and... go!

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Business owners shouldn't be making those judgement calls for employees. Let's grow up on reproductive issues; proper contraception is way better than abortion.

HS Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

Do the owners also demand their employees eat only fast food at Chick Fil A?

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

Hutterite: And federal governments shouldn't be making this judgement call for employers.

Luke Nelson
West Valley City, UT

These businesses aren't saying people CAN'T use these contraceptives, just that they don't want to pay for it.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

"These businesses aren't saying people CAN'T use these contraceptives, just that they don't want to pay for it."

Had you said "business OWNERS don't want to pay for it", I might see your point.
Disturbing, however, is seeing a business as a person - that the business Hobby Lobby has feelings and rights. That if Hobby Lobby is sold to new owners, the new owners are buying a business that doesn't have to pay for contraception, because the business objects to doing so.

Devilion
Taylorsville, UT

Moderate, most of the time new owners of a busniess have to reapply for lisneces to continue to operate the business they by. Part of that would be a review of health care. Having been employeed by a few companies that changed hands I can tell you they always review and then most of the time change the health coverage.

I support the Hobby Lobby in this. Like Mr. Nelson said they are not telling anyone they can not use these products simply that they do not want to pay for them. The week after pill is in my opinion a cheap form of aborition, where the people using it can try and step around the emontional aspect. I also disagree with it being made available over the counter for anyone under the age of 18.

bluecollar
Kearns, UT

The "Federal Government" didn't issue a mandate. The Patients' Protection and Affordable Care Act was not imposed by "the Obama administration". The law was passed by a majority of the people of The United States of America as represented by their duly elected members of Congress. The majority of American voters have decided that health care reform is necessary. Stop blaming everything you don't like on "the Obama administration". Stop claiming everything you don't like comes from "the Federal Government" and wake up to the fact that we, as a people, vote and elect our leaders and ask them to represent us and therefor the Affordable Care Act represents the collective will of the citizens of this country.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

As the article states, employees already have that coverage at Hobby Lobby in their health care.

It is great that we live in a country where employers and employees have rights as citizens that can go through or to a court system to ensure that the executive and legislative branches aren't going beyond what the court has the opportunity to rule on. The court system isn't perfect but judges have a process to go through and levels where the attorneys can go through to the Supreme Court.

Judges may be appointed at the higher levels but still have the law to work in most cases. Even Presidents who try and load the courts have term limits and hopefully good people vote for another person that is true to the oath of the law.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

The idea that Hobby Lobby not paying for someone’s contraceptives is the same as the owners forcing their religious beliefs on the employees is total ridiculous. If the employees were prohibited from using contraceptives as a condition of employment, you could make that claim, but that is NOT what BO’s attorneys are claiming.

Of course, according to BO and the dems, religious liberty, which is specifically provided for in the constitution, is secondary to the welfare state BO and the dems want to further entrench.

Tyler,
Obviously the BO misadministration slept through their lessons on the first amendment. But thanks for confirming for us how much you and the other libs despise certain parts of the 1st amendment.

Hutterite,
Business owners are NOT telling employees they cannot use BC; see my first paragraph.

Moderate,
See the Citizens United decision; BUSINESSES can!

Bluecollar,
If what you say is true, why did a MAJORITY of people OPPOSE Obamacare before, during, and after its passage?

If Hobby Lobby and other religious employers do not prevail, their only option is to reduce all their employees to part time so they won’t be forced to violate their conscience.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@lost in DC – “Tyler,… thanks for confirming for us how much you and the other libs despise certain parts of the 1st amendment.”

And how exactly did I do that? You should look up the word “projection.”

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

So when a "faith healer" owns a business and tell all his employees that he's not going to cover anything because it's against his religious beliefs, your all going to be good with that little loophole, right?

Cause I predict a new revival in faith healers among the Monty Burns of the corporate world, maybe a religion just for Corp's since they're people too according to conservatives.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Tyler,
you know exactly what you did - no need to play the aggrieved liberal. Yours was a pre-emptive attack aimed at those who see the mandate as a clear violation of the 1st amendment. But I suspect you will try to deny it.

HVH, yes, I would accept that

OlderGreg
USA, CA

@ bluecollar: Yea, right. We the citizens wanted to report *every purchase* made by a business. We citizens want to add a hefty sales tax to home purchases. We citizens want to create more incentives to reduce full time employment. We citizens want to increase health care costs and call it "Affordable--". We citizens want to impose additional taxes on those with good medical coverage. We citizens want to pass/ enact laws so we can find out what is in them. We citizens want to sue-proof a company just long enough for them to complete a plant/pollen pollute/ harvest cycle. We citizens want to waive all rights on some bureaucrats secret say-so.

---- and on and on and on

Hightek
Salt Lake City, UT

@lost in DC
A majority of Americans opposed Obamacare, yet a majority of Americans supported almost every major provision in Obamacare when asked about them individually.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Why not a mandate to come clean with IRS, Benghazi, guns to Mexican cartel, and AP tapping scandals.

Isn't this more important then covering contraceptives?

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

hightek,
depending on how you word the survey, you can get a majority to support nazism. it's called push-polling

Hightek
Salt Lake City, UT

@lost in DC

Good point. Also invalidates your comment as much as it does mine.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Hightek,

By any chance is the "majority" you speak about the 47% who pay no federal income taxes at all?

worf
Mcallen, TX

The opposite of freedom is mandate.

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