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Published: Thursday, May 23 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Lets see.

No Child Left behind was championed by GW Bush and co sponsored by John Boehner. It is a federal government program that dictates to the states.

This is OK.

Common Core is a program pushed by National Governors Association.

This gets touted as Obama, big government overreach.

See how one just might think it is only about partisanship?

10CC
Bountiful, UT

Much of the Common Core opposition originated in a vein of ultra-right thinking, first manifested by the John Birch Society, who were convinced that communism was coming from Hollywood.

When that didn't materialize, the big issue was the United States being subjugated by the United Nations. We were doomed to being under the control of an entity outside our sovereignty and certainly outside the Constitution. (Remember when the town of LaVerkin declared itself to be a "UN free zone"?)

Well, that didn't happen, either, did it?

Now we have that consummate communist Bill Gates and his wife (who made all their $Billions as capitalists, but that's beside the point), claiming to want to improve education, who got all these states together to work on a more robust curriculum together, outside the federal government.

Now that Obama's Secretary of Education is supportive of the effort, it's conveniently become an Obama conspiracy to undermine the Constitution and deprive Americans of their rights to determine what's best for their kids.

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates was right: our biggest threat is an inability to govern ourselves. The Birchers need to do something positive for a change.

The Hammer
lehi, utah

Then why is the state board so slow to answer very reasonable questions about problems with the curriculum and political pressure exerted by the Dept of Education? The main reason to adopt the common core curriculum is to get "no child left behind" waivers. The only way to get them is to adopt the curriculum that the Dept of education approves. The only curriculum approved is Common core curriculum which by those who have observed it is very liberal. This method is by far too sneaky and it robs local communities of their right established in law to determine the curriculum used in their schools. Common core standard adoption only leads to Common core curriculum nothing else.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

Wow, the ignorance that people have when it comes to Common Core is amazing.

First of all, the math standards in common core have been decried by various university math professors because the way that math is taught under Common Core delays Calculus by 1 year (lowers the standard) not to mention that the methodologies are unproven and were never verified to their ability actually work.

If people actually went to the common core web site and compared what the standard entails vs. reality, you see that on paper it is sounds good, but in practice it will fail.

For example, for first grade they want 6 and 7 year olds to be able to write persuasive and predictive essays based on books that they are reading. I would like to see first graders that can do that verbally.

Basically, the Common Core standards want to give our children meat before milk.

If that isn't enough for you, think about the goals of the 400+ data points that are used to track and guide your child's education. All so that the government can guide your child's education and career preparation.

Steve Cottrell
Centerville, UT

For those respondents who don't appear to have school experience:

At least in mathematics, there is nothing in the Common Core math standards that restricts states, districts, schools, teachers or individual students from exceeding the minimum requirements expressed in those standards. Utah standards have never included calculus for all students; neither do the Common Core standards. High School calculus has only been the program for those who choose to go beyond the minimum standard.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Common Core standards are not a liberal, big government plot"

Yeah, they are.

Whatever the standards amy or may not be today, we can certainly count on the liberals who run Big Education to continue to bend, staple, and mutilate them to serve their ends.

Distant, anonymous, bureaucratic control of what is taught our kids can ONLY result in grief.

Chuck E. Racer
Lehi, UT

Ezra Taft Benson - On Local and Independent School Systems

"The best way to prevent a political faction or any small group of people from capturing control of the nation's educational system is to keep it decentralized into small local units, each with its own board of education and superintendent. This may not be as efficient as one giant super educational system (although bigness is not necessarily efficient, either) but it is far more safe. There are other factors, too, in favor of local and independent school systems. First, they are more responsive to the needs and wishes of the parents and the community. The door to the school superintendent's office is usually open to any parent who wishes to make his views known. But the average citizen would be hard pressed to obtain more than a form letter reply from the national Commissioner of Education in Washington, D.C."

Common Core is the catalyst that pushes all control to the national level.

Chuck E. Racer
Lehi, UT

Common Core turns over control of OUR schools to Washington D.C. because there is not input from local parents and teachers, no provision to amend it, and no representation in the decisions made. It was NOT made by states. It was written by a private group similar to NEA and NCLB, associations that "serve" their clientelle, in this case NGA and CCSSA, who are based in D.C. and own the copyright.

If it is "voluntary," why is there such strong opposition to opting out? With the carrots and sticks the Obama administration have tied to it, it becomes very difficult to opt out.

BOTH NCLB and CCSS need to be repealed and removed. Having the local parents and teachers create the standards brings support and innovation and builds the parents and teachers. Local control built the best educated populace in the world. Why eliminate that? It has been eroded since the 60's when LBJ and the federal government began interfering in the control and administration of our schools, and our schools have gone downhill ever since!

Really???
Kearns, UT

Personally, I would focus more on the destructive nature of the education laws passed by our own state legislature before we get overly concerned about the common core. Our elected state leaders always seem so eager to tell us what should be taught in our schools.

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

@Chuck E. Racer,

Common Core standards set the minimum level of achievement expected at varying grade levels. As a parent I plan to set my own standards for each of my children based on their needs which likely will be much higher than those adopted by the state or nation. I will then find my own ways and means to help my kids reach their potential.

While I will be doing a lot of teaching at home, I still plan to enroll my children when they are old enough at the Charter school I work at. They will still have that level of accountability with the added experiences my wife and I will create for them. We will not rely solely on a public school for the education of our children. We will include public school in the education of our children. Common Core or any standards that are set by the state are just fine as long as I do MY part for MY children to see that they get the education they need.

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