@2 bits, believe it or not, I've gone to the Democratic Convention as a
delegate and cast votes for the candidates I liked best. Doesn't mean I
like the system, though.
On the other hand,You say, "the caucus system is anything but
representative". Question: Is the Democrat system of picking candidates
"representative"???Think about it... Have you or ANYONE ever
got to vote to select who goes to the Democrat Convention to pick their primary
candidates? The answer is "no".So at least it's better
than the Democrat's system.
The caucus system is anything but representative. Say you have a precinct with
100 attendees which gets to choose two delegates. 51 of the attendees support
one set of candidates and positions. 49 support a different set of candidates
and positions. In a truly representative system, each faction should get to
choose a delgate, but what happens instead is that the majority faction chooses
both and the minority is completely disenfranchised.The Republican
Party seems particularly uneasy with diversity of opinion. Maybe that explains
why they continue to promote a system where most people's involvement will
be nearly meaningless and only a handful of people will have any real say
regarding candidates or official stances.
"The caucus system works just fine."Right. It gave us Mike
I don't know that you can make the case that a primary to pick the
Republican Primary Candidates would have much better turn out than the
caucusses, or current Republican Primary elections, or that it would be more
representative of the population as a whole. What turnout
percentage do we current get for primary elections? (Democrat and Republican
combined)? The DMN must have a number on that. I think last time primary
turnout was around 15%.Wow... 15-20% for the REAL Primary. And you
think we would get BETTER turnout for a PRE-Primary Primary???So we
are OK with 15% making the decision, but we can't let the representatives
picked by a vote of their neighbors to represent them at the convention do it?
I don't get that!
To "Tara McKee" caucuses don't fail to represent. People fail to
participate.If you don't go to your local caucus meeting,
who's fault is it that the elected officials don't represent your
Congrats to the GOP delegates, who refused to be blackmailed. The caucus system
works just fine.
If the caucus system worked out so well then why is our state and national
government run by career politicians? Orrin hatch, Howard Stephensen, buttars
(before he finally retired), etc. the list goes on and on.
No matter how much you laud the republic form of government, the logic of the
most true and best representation of the people will be the system where the
will of the voter is least diluted by the layers of condensed representation.
Those delegates we elect to represent us at the nominating convention are expect
to vote the will of the people of their precinct. They have no obligation to
the candidates. They have no obligation to anyone else at the nominating
convention.They were elected to do the job requested by the
Republicans in their precinct. Those Republicans, who cared enough to attend
the caucus meeting, decided who, from their precinct, would best be qualified to
represent the mind and will of the members of the precinct. Every
member of that precinct could run for election. Not everyone from the precinct
could be elected. Our precinct elected two county delegates and two State
delegates. Those delegates were asked to listen to all members of the precinct,
including those who were not in attendance at the caucus. They were asked to
listen to the candidates and then to talk to members of the precinct who had
concerns about those candidates.What more could we ask of those we
elect. If they listen to those they represent and listen to the candidates that
they will nominate, they are doing the job required of them.
We have a system that that does NOT favor the incumbent, the wealthy or the
famous. This is a good thing, and should be preserved.We want
neighbors discussing the best candidates and finding ways to improve this state
and the nation. What is being proposed would remove us meeting together from the
caucus meeting. We would be dropping off votes, but not meeting and discussing
candidates and issues. That is what is wrong with Washington, D.C. They
don’t listen to each other in a meeting. They watch from their offices. We
need to change that, not perpetuate it.Approx. one out of every 4 or
5 republicans attended their neighborhood election caucus meeting this last
year. Over 120,000 participated. One in every three told a KSL poll they were
involved or attending. There are 4000 state delegates and many more county
delegates that spend countless hours vetting candidates to be on the ballot. The
Democratic party also has thousands involved in the process. They are selected
by those that attend the neighborhood election caucus meeting. You just have to