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More Obama aides knew IRS targeted conservative groups; Obama not told

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 21, 2013 5:00 p.m.

    Every American should study the creation of the KGB, and Gestapo. How was it used to implement government policies, and control.

    Compare, and contrast to how the IRS will be used to implement the thousands of pages of Obama Care.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 21, 2013 3:49 p.m.

    @cougsndawgs
    the issues are not small potato but at what point hte CEO would be made aware of them is far less clear then you would like to pretend.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 21, 2013 3:28 p.m.

    @Phranc
    I wasn't suggesting a CEO should know all the "small moving parts". I was suggesting that Benghazi, the IRS, and DOJ issues are not small moving parts. They are major parts of his government that have had some serious issues that any good CEO would know about. So the question remains, is Obama an incompetent "CEO" or a lying deceiving one? Don't try and convince Americans that these issues are small potatoes and nothing to worry about. Maybe if it were one issue I would agree, but when multiple issues are beginning to point to deceit at worst and incompetence at best you start to pay attention and use some healthy skepticism. I believe taking the position that Obama knew nothing about any of these major issues is a naive one.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    May 21, 2013 2:55 p.m.

    To "Tolstoy" that is wrong. Just look at Apple. Read "Apple Drops Chinese Supplier For Using Underage Labor" at ABC News. If a CEO at apple knew about underage laborers, then Obama could get briefed by apparently a high ranking official that knew about the impending scandal.

  • Phranc SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 21, 2013 2:32 p.m.

    @cougsndawg
    The President (CEO) of the country does not keep taps on the daily behaviors of his 100,000's of employees and does not know everything that happens in the small moving parts of the government away from the white house. Please tell me any CEO of any company even approaching the size of the federal government that knows everything that happens in every department of his company across the country. Did Obama place to much trust in the wrong people? possibly but that would be the worst anyone has proven to date.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 21, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    @tolstoy
    Please...really? You honestly don't think Obama knew anything about these BIG issues he's faced with right now. As a CEO you BETTER know the bigger issues facing your company, or update your resume (the buck stops wih you). If only Obama were one of the millions unemployed having to update his resume right now...but one simple word sums up the difference between the CEO of a private company vs our government and public leaders...ACCOUNTABILITY. If the fed gov was a private corp and Obama the CEO, he would have been fired no more than two years into his first term, and his excuses regarding the previous "CEO" would have fallen on deaf ears.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 21, 2013 12:54 p.m.

    @redshirt

    "why support somebody that will like to use or else is so incompetent that he doesn't know what is going on around him?"

    Or there may be at least one other possible reason besides your false dichotomy. The CEO of the country does not keep taps on the daily behaviors of his 1,000's of employees and does not know everything that happens in the small moving parts of the government away from the white house. Please tell me any CEO of any company even approaching the size of the federal government that knows everything that happens in every department of his company across the country.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    May 21, 2013 12:04 p.m.

    Ok liberals, we now know that people close to Obama knew of the IRS acting out of line.

    Knowing that it shows that either Obama is lying about what he knows or else is very incompetent. Either way, why support somebody that will like to use or else is so incompetent that he doesn't know what is going on around him?

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 21, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    So you all really expect the President(CEO) of the country to keep taps on the daily behaviors of his 100,000's of employees and to know everything that happens in the small moving parts of the government away from the white house? Please tell me any CEO of any company even approaching the size of the federal government that knows everything that happens in every department of his company across the country?

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    May 21, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    Re-listening to Pres Obama's 2012 campaign remarks concerning Mitt Romney's donnors, and the conservative tea party, one would think conservatives being targeted by the IRS would be music to his ears. Are we to beleive that his advisors knew concerning the IRS scandal - but, because they wanted to insulate his tender feeling from such bad news, they did'nt inform their boss? Marvelous!

  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    May 21, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    The "people around me knew, but I did not" line is getting a bit old. Fast and Furious, Benghazi and now the IRS. Come on, people can't be buying the notion that everytime a scandal comes up, Obama is the only one that did not know about it. He is the POTUS for crying out loud. It is his job to know. His aides are there for that particular reason, to keep him informed.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 21, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    How blind can people be?

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    May 21, 2013 2:58 a.m.

    Yeah, and if you believe this one, I've got some beach front property in Arizona for sale. Obama has consistently lied to the country and is only concerned with power and his "legacy."

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    May 20, 2013 5:32 p.m.

    So, according to the White House and the adoring press, Pres Obama is clueless. Yeah. Sure, Right.

    IRS targeting and intimidating conservative groups, administration lying about what really happened in Benghazi (and continues to keep in prison that individual who created the anti-Muslim video), and the AP is wiretapped. And oh, the president never knew anything about these scandals until he watched the 6 o'clock news.

    Boy, I'm convinced.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    May 20, 2013 5:19 p.m.

    Perhaps if Barack quit campaigning and began working in the job he was elected to he would be more aware of what is going on?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    May 20, 2013 4:56 p.m.

    So there will either be a mass firing or a mass cover-up; let's see which it is.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    May 20, 2013 4:53 p.m.

    The buck stops with obama.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    May 20, 2013 4:10 p.m.

    Barack didn't know of the report but it is hard to believe he knew nothing about conservative groups being targeted by the IRS. The man is corrupt - plain and simple and every new scandal proves it.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    May 20, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    What a great bunch he has surrounding him. Speaks volumes about their leader as well.