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Associated Press CEO calls records seizure unconstitutional

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  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    May 20, 2013 8:09 p.m.

    George,

    Do you seriously believe that Obama and his administration has been completely honest with us concerning Benghazi? (Hint: Hicks' testimony suggests the answer is NO).

    Do you condone that kind of behavior?

    Do you believe that Watergate was horrible enough to cause Nixon to resign?

    If so, could you please explain how the cover-up for Watergate was worse than the cover-up for Benghazi? I have yet to hear a good explanation that doesn't contradict Hicks' and others' testimonies.

  • George New York, NY
    May 20, 2013 4:48 p.m.

    @riverton coug
    Prop 8 is being challenged through the proper channels of the courts based on the argument that it violates the constitution, are you ready to try to prove your accusations in a court of law or do you want to keep up the baseless accusations in the media instead? Even Rand Paul is distancing himself from your calls for Obamas head. It is get lonely out there isn't it?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    May 20, 2013 3:48 p.m.

    "When exactly did it become patriotic to try to undue the will of the voting public with a completely lack of evidence to support such an outrageous action?"

    George,

    Are we talking about Obama or Prop 8?

    "I don’t find it ironic at all, the GOP posters on these threads prove everyday with their baseless accusations, grand conspiracy theories and calls to undo the will of the voting public exactly why they should not be trusted."

    spring street,

    I'm sorry that you find solid testimonies from people who were actually in Libya (such as Gregory Hicks) to be "baseless accusations". What exactly is a solid-based accusation? A testimony from Obama himself that he lied? Even then, even if Obama said that I'm sure many here would still support him. Sad.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 20, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    @riverton cougar

    I don’t find it ironic at all, the GOP posters on these threads prove everyday with their baseless accusations, grand conspiracy theories and calls to undo the will of the voting public exactly why they should not be trusted.

  • George New York, NY
    May 20, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    @lost
    right its all just another grand conspiracy lost.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 20, 2013 12:44 p.m.

    this is all a tempest in a teapot that will soon blow over.

    The AP will complain about being violated, but then they will put themselves right back in the dems' pockets. It's all a facade to try and show that the dems and lamestream media aren't really in bed with each other.

  • HS Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    May 20, 2013 10:50 a.m.

    The Justice department needs to be brought to the wood shed over this. A free press, protected by our constitution is a must to our country's future. This scandal will provide more cover for the conservatives in Washington to continue doing nothing. Other than voting to repeal Romney care 38 times in the past 2 years they have passed little to no legislation. While cleaning out the Justice department we need to throw Boehner and the GOP out as well. He and the GOP leadership has proved without a doubt to be useless and an anchor to our country's future.

  • George New York, NY
    May 20, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    @Mike Richards

    borrowing from you logic regarding swallows situation.

    The people have voted for Obama. He has the responsibility to do that job that he was elected to do, just as you and I have the responsibility to do our jobs even when "neighbors" think that they could do our job better or that we should never have gotten that job.

    The fact is that Obama has not been convicted of anything. If this farce continues, no position in government will be safe. Some "concerned citizen" will leak something to the press and the press will print that "leak" on page one. Other citizens, who should know the law and who should respect the law, will tell us that because of a "leak", that that official should step down until he proves himself innocent.

    What total nonsense. We are innocent until proven guilty. Innocent people do not step down. Innocent people do not let "leaks" force them from office.

    If you have evidance to rpove Obama did something wrong then prove it beofre the apppropraiate autorities.

    you just keep proving tolstoys point about moral relativity.

  • George New York, NY
    May 20, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    So many of the poster on this thread seem to want to impeach a president that was recently elected by the majority of Americans for the second time while providing no actual proof the president has done anything impeachable. And you are the same people that regularly tell us we are un-American, hate our country and are not patriotic, curious. When exactly did it become patriotic to try to undue the will of the voting public with a completely lack of evidence to support such an outrageous action?

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    May 20, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    This is a willful violation of the rule of law protection freedoms of the Press that have existed from the Founding Fathers, either by law or by acceptance of what the Press provided for these people who left despot type countries without power to the people.

    This President got caught with his hand in the cookie jar in this case along with his Attorney General. You can't believe the President didn't know about this process where the Attorney General is supposed to sign off on this subpoena know that the Press has given this President all praise and glory from the Nobel Peace prize to now. They have not blocked any positive communication that the Chicago bunch tried to put out. The Press bent over backward to help during all times of crises, either real or made up. They have gone to bat for this President in almost any circumstance even holding back bad news to the world in favor of the President's supposed agenda and policies. They haven't pushed him once. They have given him every break at the cost of losing Journalistic integrity and ethics along the way. They should have their radar on.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 20, 2013 8:18 a.m.

    @mike Richards

    Acctually mike I have never once speculated on swallows guilt or inocence, you keep trying to make this about me but your last post proves my point you use two very different standards depending on who you are talking about the very definition of relative morality.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    May 20, 2013 8:13 a.m.

    Does anybody else find it ironic that Romney didn't win the election because "we can't trust him"?

    Either Obama is a liar and he must go, or else he is the most incompetent president in U.S. history and he must go.

    And either Obama won the election because the American people are so clueless or mislead, or else he didn't actually win the election.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    May 20, 2013 6:31 a.m.

    Now all of the sudden the mainstream press is all up in arms about the government violating the second amendment. It would have been nice if they would have stood up for the second amendment when it was recently under heavy attack.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    May 19, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    Tolstoy,

    How many times have the "news" stories about Swallow used a convicted felon as their source? How many times has Harry Reid told us that the purported meetings and conversations with John Swallow just didn't happen?

    So, which is it? Is Harry Reid correct and John Swallow didn't do as the convicted felon claimed, or is the convicted felon correct and Harry Reid is lying?

    You can't have it both ways. You want to try Harry Reid and John Swallow in the press, be my guest. When it's your turn for a trial, I hope you make front page news, then you'll know the difference between reporting he said / she said and reporting the facts presented at a government hearing about squelched testimony, about cover-ups, about misconduct by high government officials, about Obama lying, about Clinton lying, about Rice lying, about the I.R.S. being used for political purposes, about the AP's 1st amendment rights being violated.

    But, you want gossip instead of hard facts. So does Obama. He prefers the gossip that emanates from his press secretary to the facts presented by honest people in a government hearing.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 19, 2013 9:32 p.m.

    Sure!

    Obama didn't know about guns to Mexican cartels, Benghazi, AP break in, and the IRS scandal.

    The Obama administration doesn't know what the Obama administration is doing?

    They knew what Mitt Romney was doing, even if they had to make things up. Time for a new administration.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 19, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    @elcap
    If Richards is right show me the proof to back up your claim.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 19, 2013 7:19 p.m.

    @mike richards
    Yes, by all means, investigate all misdeeds. In the case of the AP and IRS scandals, how about also investigating those who are demanding that the president be removed from office? What is their agenda? What do they have to gain? Who benefits most when the waters around the presidents office is muddy? Who benefits most when he cannot do his duty? Who would be prosecuted if he were fully functioning? Somebody does not want him to be able to do his job? Who is that person or persons? prove your not a hypocrite Mike.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    May 19, 2013 7:11 p.m.

    @Tolstoy

    Richards is right. Obama is dodging the law. He hides behind his underlings out of Chicago and fails to leead. Admit it, we have a man in the Presidency who leads from behind. We should have recognized is incompentancy from the outset. I did.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 19, 2013 6:24 p.m.

    @mike Richards

    I take "umbrage" at the "FACT" that you decried swallow being tried in this paper but seem fine doing so in this same paper to obama.
    As far as the "FACTS" I ask you once again where is your evidance pbama was involved in the inappropriate actions taken against the AP?

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    May 19, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    Tolstoy,

    You seem to be hung up on something. You seem to think that when a newspaper reports something new that has not been published that I think that the newspaper is trying that person in the press. You're wrong. The duty of the newspaper is to report news. Obama's misdeeds are news. FINALLY, the media is paying attention to what he has been up to throughout his career. FINALLY, the media has had enough of his abuse of power. FINALLY, the media is taking their duty as the 4th branch of government seriously.

    And you take umbrage at the media and at me because FINALLY we are learning FACTS, not suppositions, but FACTS that should have been published immediately after they occurred. Those facts were suppressed by the Obama administration. By tapping AP, those in his administration who would have reported the truth of what had happened will now remain silent, fearing retaliation from him - just as he has retaliated against anyone who has crossed him in the past - just ask Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice about their future prospects.

    Why do you want the newspaper to stop printing the FACTS about Obama?

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 19, 2013 3:38 p.m.

    @Mike Richards
    Once again putting Obama on trial int eh threads of the DN are we Mike? what is your proof Obama had anything to do with the records seizer Mike? and before you (in your many incarnations) start, no I am not excusing the seizures simply challenging your unfounded claims that Obama was involved.

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    May 19, 2013 2:51 p.m.

    obama has been doing unconstitutional things ever since getting in the wh and only when ap gets some of his thuggery tactics deployed on them do they get concerned. ap, you've backed and given this guy kid glove treatment for five years.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    May 19, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    The 1st Amendment says (in part), "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;"

    Our founding fathers put God first and then the freedom to speak without permission from the government. Obama's administration has openly violated both of those guaranteed rights.

    The 4th Amendment says, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    Without warrants, the Obama administration "searched" AP.

    Tie that breach of law to using the I.R.S. to intimidate people and that breach to lying about Benghazi and about "Fast and Furious" and you have a government that uses every "power" available to it to intimidate its citizens.

    Prosecute all involved, including the President, if the tracks lead to the Oval Office. Our freedom is at stake.