So let's see....chris hill is so concerned about filling the crackerbox
this year that he goes online to beg for utah "fans" to attend the games
yet utah "fans" on the dnews message boards tell us they need to expand
the crackerbox because there are lines of people "miles long" waiting
for tickets. Something doesn't add up....
Duckhunter,You're spouting off prematurely. Wait and see how
long it takes for the remaining season tickets to get snatched up ... it
won't be long.
In the front page article in the D News on "The offseason status of NFL
players with Utah ties," there were several things of note:The
Utes outnumber BYU 2 to 1, which is consistent with the direction both teams are
headed. And according to the article, most of BYU's NFL players are not
even in line to get significant minutes. Utah has 11 starters as compared to
BYU's 3, and Utah has 5 current Pro-Bowlers compared to BYU's 1.It's a great time to be a Ute!!Hey duckhunter, the Utes
have sold out the past 5 seasons in a row. Don't worry about this. And if
you're boasting about the 60,000 seats in Provo, what does that matter when
the fans sitting in those seats are all headed for the exits in the 3rd quarter,
like the last time we played you guys?
We have a decades long wiating list for our season tickets.
RES listed capacity 45,0172012 attendance average 45,1492011
attendance average 45,4592010 attendance average 45,1562009
attendance average 45,1552008 attendance average 45,352Filling
RES doesn't seem to be a problem, does it? Last year Utah Football season
tickets were renewed at a 92% rate, which is a very high rate of renewal
considering a certain percentage of fans will move, fall on hard financial
times, etc. The few season tickets that were not renewed were resold
to waiting buyers so fact they never went on the "public market."
DuckhunterHighland, UTSo let's see....chris hill is so
concerned about filling the crackerbox this year that he goes online to beg for
utah "fans" to attend the games yet utah "fans" on the dnews
message boards tell us they need to expand the crackerbox because there are
lines of people "miles long" waiting for tickets. Something doesn't
add up....Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't deliberately
spinning the truth and ultimately telling a lie against the tenants of
Sorry ute fans but this clearly means that the demand for tickets isn't
what you're suggesting (or my bro in law and sister for that matter). If
you want stadium expansion and think it's warranted because there's
such high demand you're AD wouldn't be asking people to please buy
season tickets, we will only hold them so long. Successful programs don't
hold season tickets hoping someone will buy them before they release them. BYUs
season tickets are sold...have been since the end of last season (at least the
ones that arent on waiting lists). UGA has a 30 yr waiting list. Looks like
being amongst the big boys doesn't help the fact that you're still a
"midmajory WACer" wearing big boys clothes. You're drowning in your
threads, no wonder no one sees U and no one cares...awwww.
LES listed capacity 64,1082012 attendance average 61,1612011
attendance average 60,2652010 attendance average 61,3812009
attendance average 64,2362008 attendance average 64,102Oh my
how strange, BYU appears to be the in-state program that cannot sell out its
stadium. That great independent schedule with its "inconvenient" Kickoff
times and dates seems to have hurt BYU's actual attendance. Maybe BYU
should consider reducing the capacity of LES to match the current demand?
CougDawg, the only mid-majory WACers I see around at the moment are you and
Ducky. How little brother of you to constantly troll Utah Football stories;
confident fans don't do that. I see you on Utah threads all the time
trying talk down the Utes. I no it's a bummer you team (which is BYU not
Georgia) is a mid major without and real prospects but it doesn't mean you
and the rest of the clan have to constantly ankle bite. In terms of RES, it
will be sold out like the prior years as people would rather go see USC or
Stanford in SLC than Idaho State in Provo. It so easy.
Perhaps the cougar fans here should be more concerned about the "trend in
the tin can" not being sold out and less concerned about Utah''s
sales. Not only have they not sold out the "can" but they have lost to
the Utes as well.
tdlawtonThat great independent schedule with its "inconvenient"
Kickoff times and dates seems to have hurt BYU's actual attendance. Actually, it isn't just the bizarre start times that have hurt byu
ticket sales. The product put on the field, the lack of quality opponents, and
the embarrassing fact that byu's hated rival qualified in every respect to
play in a coveted elite conference are also contributing factors. byu had
promotions to unload tickets last year and it still didn't help.
Rock:This isn't a Utah board or blog so relax. And I have been more
than fair to Utah when it's warranted and critical of BYU when it's
necessary also. Lol, ya U know me well enough to know where my allegiance
lies...hilarious. I've been a dawg fan longer than a BYU fan...since
Herschel walker. You know a heisman trophy winner...oh wait, ute fans have no
familiarity with any such awards. And plenty of utes "troll" the cougar
stories...it's a news outlet, not SportsNation or bleacher report.
Doesn't bother me a bit when utes want to comment on the Cougs. Matter of
fact come over to cougarboard Rock, you're always welcome.
Herschel Walker, 1984, polishing old trophies, living in the past. lol.NIT smack, rugby smack, rankings smack, stadium size smack, tax dollar smack.
lol.Call me when byu beats Utah in football and I'll
congratulate byu if they end up with a winning record this year.
Don't come back with the bottom dweller smack, I'm talking head to
head rivalry football.Say what you want, but we all know that the
rivalry lives and that the rivalry is all about football.Go Utes.
Come on guys, if you're going to bicker at least stick to a meaningful
topic. The jabs on here remind me when we were in 5th grade claiming "my
dad can beat up your dad".The Cougs haven't been in the WAC
since the Utes, and both teams have old WAC opponents scheduled in the future.
Drop the tired WAC line. I don't refer to the Utes as Big Sky PACer just
because U play Northern Colorado. Holmoe told us the first two years of Indy
would be tough to schedule. Guess what the Cougs schedule is probably tougher
than the Utes in 2013, even tough the Utes will have their toughest schedule
ever. There's something meaningful to argue about.And come on
Cougs, don't read more into Hill's comments than meets the eye. Now
if the comments were about the Huntsman, that's a different story. But the
Utes have filled their FB stadium and will continue to fill their stadium.
However, if the Utes have a losing season again, will the FB fans turn like the
BB fans? There's something to debate.Good luck Utes.
Once again Duckhunter nails it. Utah only has like three "fans". Nobody
like Utes football they just hate us for being so humble while knowing we are so
good.Plus our own coach bronco goes out of his way to tell us we are
really smart fans and Duckhunter just proofs that point.
tdlawtonLets review:2012 61,161 > 45,1492011
60,265 > 45,4592010 61,381 > 45,1562009 64,236 >
45,1552008 64,102 > 45,352Call us when the Utes average
60,000+ at RES for five consecutive years... for the FIRST TIME.BYU
has been averaging 60,000+ at LES since 1982!btw, seating
configuration changes have reduced seating capacity at LES to 63,470.Until the Utes actually fill a 60,000+ seat stadium
year-after-year-after-year, all of your chest beating about "sell-outs"
is nothing but idle prattle. If the Utes really do have that level of fan
support, PROVE IT!
Duckhunter nailed it.If Chris Hill was certain that Rice Eccles
Stadium would be full this Fall, why would he even be talking about it?
We don't need ticket sales.It doesn't matter if our stadiums are
empty.We have all that tax money!Besides, the Pac12 will always keep
us around, they need us, to pad their schedule.
Did any of you haters actually read the article or watch the video?Does
Dr. Hill sound worried?He's letting the fans know how to access the
*hard to get available tickets*.Do your homework and try to keep up.Go Utes.
ekuteLooks like you're finally starting to accept reality.A few more seasons like 2012 coupled with BYU reasserting its
1980's dominance, and fan attendance at RES will look just like it did
during the 80's.
DuckYour preoccupation with the thoughts and actions of Utah fans
and the program is pathologic.I'm not sure your a "fan"
of anything except trying to impress your opinion on everyone. Good luck LOL
@anti BCSI know! And Utah should follow byU"s lead and go
independent and max hall was right and byU would of won a 16 team playoff in
1984 AND a run in the nit and a rugby title is ALOT better than anything Utah
has EVER done. lol.Oh, and Chris Hill is going to lose his job and
the refs have it out for byU and it was just a rumor started by the Ute Fans
that Jim McMahon drank beer and chewed tobacky.
ekute"I know! And Utah should follow BYU's lead and go
independent..."Nope. Winning a National
Championship, winning a Heisman Trophy, being a perennial Top 25 team, and
thriving as an Independent are things the Utes could never do.The
Utes are much better off being dependent on the PAC 10.2 so they can enjoy the
allusion of success as a "conference of champions" bottom dweller.
Newsflash for anti bcs!!! BYU won't be a perennial top 25 team as long as
they have a tough schedule like this year. The days of beating up on WAC and
MWC patsies appear to be over. Those 2 for 1 scheduling agreements are going to
take their toll on the cougars record. It will now be rare that the cougs
finish a season ranked. Welcome to the real world of college
How hard is to fill a 40,000 seat band box?
Oh Ed. That's cute. How hard is it to understand that we've sold out
for 5 years? There are literally thousands on the waiting list to buy tickets.
I know. I'm one of them. Don't you worry about us friend.
How hard is it to keep 60,000 fans in the stands past half time when
you're, once again, getting owned by a "bottom dweller"?
anti bcs-Let's be real though, byu has never won a National
Championship either. I mean to actually win a NC you would clearly have to beat
someone who finished in the top 20, right? I mean how about beating at least a
few of those teams to really win a NC. BYU just sort of backed into a
"NC." I am still looking forward to the day they actually win one.
Sheriff Andy Taylor"I mean to actually win a NC you would
clearly have to beat someone who finished in the top 20, right?"Nope, the ONLY requirement for actually winning a NC is finishing #1 in the
Final AP and Coaches Polls.BYU had absolutely no control over how
teams on BYU's schedule finished the season. BYU began the season playing
#3-ranked Pittsburgh on the road. Are you saying it's BYU's fault that
Pittsburgh tanked the season?BYU did beat AP #24 Air Force(8-4) on
the road, a team that finished higher in the polls than anybody the Utes beat in
2004, yet the Utes tried to claim that they deserved a shot at the 2004 national
championship.If you want to blame somebody for trying to back into a
championship, blame #2 Washington and #3 Nebraska, both of whom were invited to
play #1 BYU for a shot at the national championship, but chose instead to play
lower-ranked teams. Neither team won their conference championship; neither team
beat the #1 team. Yet, both tried to claim that they deserved to be national
champions because they beat teams ranked lower than BYU.
Utah didn't claim a shot at the title in 04.In 08 they beat formerly
#1 ranked Alabama and finished ranked #2, which is a more legitimate claim to
the title than byU's claim in 84. Go Utes.
ekute"In 08 they beat formerly #1 ranked Alabama and finished
ranked #2..."In 1984, BYU beat formerly #3 ranked Pittsburgh and
finished #1!Sorry, but the only legitimate claim to #1 is being
ranked #1 in the final polls. It's not who you beat, it's where you
finish in the final polls that counts.1984 #1/#1 BYU1996 #5/#5
BYU1985 #7/#7 BYU2004 #4/#5 Utah2008 #2/#4 UtahIt's laughable that you use the rankings to validate Utah opponents, yet
refuse to acknowledge BYU's #1 ranking as validation of BYU's National
Championship, even though ALL FIVE major national organizations selected BYU as
the CONSENSUS National Champion for 1984.BYU's claim to the
National Championship sits in BYU's trophy case in the form of a $30,000
Waterford Crystal Football National Championship Trophy awarded to BYU by the
American Football Coaches Association (AFCA), the exact same trophy that was
awarded to the winner of the BCS championship game in 2008.That's a far more legitimate claim to a NC than the 4th place Utes
achieved in 2008.
Swoop, you are awesome. Thank you for the cougar support in building an addition
to Rice-Eccles that will expand capacity to over 60k. Then all the cougar fans
will be happy (probably sad) with real comparisons of ticket sales. As for most ute fans (not Mr. B), we will continue focusing any rivalry talk
about head to head competition. Utah has an amazing schedule of USC,
Oregon, Stanford and Washington. We even play a great USU team. If anyone else
thinks their team on our schedule is great, then feel free to put them on our
list. Utes have to worry a little about ticket sales, because so many free
tickets are given to students, there are very few tickets left after the season
ticket holders take their share. Increasing stadium size by 10k seats would be a
tremendous boom to revenues.GO UTES!!
@ekuteSo you're saying Utah could have beat Florida in 2008? No. I
actually picked Utah to beat Alabama because I, along with a lot of other SEC
fans, believed bama to be overrated. They barely beat Kentucky by a FG, beat a
horrible miss st team by 4 points, and only managed 20 points against a 2-10
Tulane. Bama couldn't throw the ball either...all this spelled upset for
Utah. Alabama also didn't play a single ranked team in the SEC west that
year because there weren't any other ranked teams in the SEC west (it was a
down yr for the SEC). Florida and Tim Tebow on the other hand were a legitimate
#1 team. Very good on both sides of the ball. While anything is possible I
don't see Utah beating that Gator team on their best day. And lets also not
forget that Utah went from unranked clear up to 17 in the polls that season
after barely beating Michigan by 2 points...a terrible Michigan team that
finished 3-9 (sound familiar?). Also won by a FG over 4-8 NEW MEXICO. Utah was a
great team that year, but better than Florida? No.
OK, I won't argue over a mythical trophy for Utah.And yes, I know
about that trophy in legacy hall, you guys take it out and polish it every
day.You might be surprised to know that I grew up in Utah County and used
to frequent the byu athletic facilities. Interacted with several notable
personalities. But I don't brag about it.lol
BYU got a NC they didn't EARN. Utah didn't get a legitimate shot at
the NC although they EARNED a shot at it. That's all.
Napoleon Dynamite"BYU got a NC they didn't EARN."All five major college football NC selecting organizations of the day
disagree, but you're welcome to your biased opinion, for what it's
worth."Utah didn't get a legitimate shot at the NC although
they EARNED a shot at it."Sorry, Utah finished 6th in the final
bcs standings, so no, the Utes didn't even come close to earning a shot at
I am sure when the Utes sellout for a 6th straight year in a row with a renewal
rate in the 90th percentile or more all the BYU fans will come back on this
board and say they were wrong. After all, BYU fans are known for being level
headed free thinkers that never let their pride or arrogance get in the way of
Never actually earning it on the field-of-play--byu played the 3rd
weakest schedule in the nation in '84, yet was awarded for it with a
"MYTHICAL" NC. Hysterical, actually. Particularly with them greatly
benefiting from beating a grossly overrated PITT team, thus vaulting them out of
nowhere up there to near the Top-10 [#12, if I remember correctly] in the
rankings.PITT concluded the season at 3-7-1, bowl-less and UNRANKED.
Everybody knows byu couldn't have done it without such a fluke-occurrence
taking place and, obviously, the voters couldn't undo their obvious error
in ranking PITT so high, to begin with.BTW, did you see what OU did
to PITT on the same, exact field just 2 weeks later? Unlike byu, in struggling
to barely beat PITT, OU complete obliterated them. Good times.
AZUTE1Unlike BYU, in struggling to barely beat PITT, OU complete
obliterated them.Yet Oklahoma LOST to Kansas(5-6) 11-28, which lost
to Vanderbilt(5-6) 6-41. Go figure.btw, what's your source for
BYU 1984 having the 3rd weakest schedule in the nation?
Ha ha ha! One little comment by Duckhunter and little stadium inferiority
complex flares up again.I thought Hill's comment about filling
up the stadium and playing USU was a hilarious.I thought the purpose
of playing Ute football these days was playing 'big boy' football? Not
former WAC or MWC foes? LOLCongrats to USU! You've finally
arrived in Uteville. They are tryin' their hardest to fill a stadium for
"Congrats to USU! You've finally arrived in Uteville"Which is what byU wants to do but never will. lol.
What's hilarious is the fact that Ducky & Sammy just can't leave
the Utes alone. This smells of major jealousy . The Utes move to the Pac 12 and
our domination of them has really affected these two!
CarsonJealous of WHAT? Utah's puny little football stadium that
the Utes have decided NOT to expand because they don't have enough
money?Yeah, that's something BYU fans should be enormously
"Jealous of WHAT?" "The Utes move to the Pac 12 and our
domination of" byU.Do a little homework before you post a
frantic and emotional comment. lol.Go Utes.
@carsonLOL!@ekuteI did my homework, chris
hill is begging people to please come to the games and saying there is no
stadium expansion on the schedule.LOL!
Since your move to the PAC, U haven't beaten a single PAC 10.2 team with a
winning record, U haven't even sniffed the Top 25, you've only been to
one bowl game (in El Paso, ugh), you've suffered your first losing season
since before Urban, and you've finished with worse records and lower
rankings than BYU.Sorry, nothing to see here worth being jealous
about; move on.
@mussingaroundBut they really, really, want us to be jealous,
really, really bad. And besides if they say it enough times they will all
believe it. Remember if you believe it then it isn't a lie.LOL!
Ok Ducky, don't be jealous just beat us LOL!
"chris hill is begging people to please come to the
games"..."Remember if you believe it then it isn't a lie."duck, It's unlike you to get frantic and emotional like that. lol.
Somewhere Naval Vet is ringing a bell and laughing knowing duckhunter is
responding promptly on cue and as programmed.
CarsonSeeing you Utesies squirm and twist in denial over the stadium
expansion and this beg-a-thon for ticket sales is some of the best entertainment
available. I couldn't care less about your 40,000 stadium but most of you
Utes are hypersensitive about BYU's 60,000 + stadium.Hill's comment about USU and ignoring the conference opponents is pretty
funny.And I would be jealous of what?Little stadium, no
expansion, losing conference records for the two supposedly 'premier'
mens sports programs, problems with rugby, swimming, only on one satellite
network, lost to Colorado, lost to USU, a 14th draft pick vs. #5, not in a Top
25 vs BYU in a Top 25, no bowl game, conference bottom dweller and the list goes
on.Looks to be a trend to me these past 2+ yearsAnd
I'm really jealous and bitter about this. Really I am.
@proud uteActually I am the one "ringing a bell and
laughing" because the VAST majority of responses on this article are from
utah "fans" like yourself towards me. On "cue and as
Jealousy and envy consume several Cougar "fans" as confirmed on this
article's responses.Why are we only seeing comments from one of
our four little brothers? No comments from our MWC brother or from our Big Sky
brothers yet we see many comments from our Indy 1.4 little brother
"fans"that were left behind by the PAC 12. We are truly sorry that you
continue to struggle as a mid-major program playing in the Indy 1.4 and WCC.
Wish you had been invited to a major conference too. If making negative
comments on Utah articles makes you feel better then please continue. I for one
never read comments on BYU, USU, SUSU or WSU articles and would never leave a
negative comment on one of your articles even if I read one. What a pathetic
life that would be.Go Utes!
DuckhunterHighland, UT@proud uteActually I am the
one "ringing a bell and laughing" because the VAST majority of responses
on this article are from utah "fans" like yourself towards me. On
"cue and as programmed". LOL!Weak...... facts
don't support your claim plus exaggerating and capitalizing doesn't
make it so. Your frantic and emotional attempt to re-direct is
over-ruled.Continue to throw stones and bite ankles as you were.
@proud uteAnother reply by a utah "fan". "On cue and as
According to the ticket office, all Season tickets will be gone as the waiting
list for tickets is long. The problem has to do with costs. It used to be a
bargain to attend the games. This year we have 7 home games. My donation
continues to climb to keep up with other PAC 12 schools. This year I paid an
$800 donation plus $55 per ticket. The economy has hurt many fans the past 5
years and many will look at tickets versus paying a bill and some will have no
choice. Still the demand is strong as many of the people moving into our state
are from the west coast and are adopting Utah as their team and the fence
sitters that used to attend BYU games are apparently coming to RES as fans are
looking for better opponents and better value for their dollar. RES
will be sold out before the season starts. I believe Dr. Hill is looking to
increase the demand and creating a larger waiting list so once the time for
expansion occurs, the demand will be there.