The way the ex-commissioner spoke about their process appears that he
doesn't believe anything is wrong, especially after 18 months of not
informing people when HE was asked multiple times about their process in 8
hearings about their processes. The ex-commissioner was only commissioner 8
months but he was specifically over that unit.There is something
rotten in Denmark and it isn't cheese nor old meat.There is a
morale and moral issue with this information coming out after the incumbents
election impacting on the election one way or another.Benghazi was
an impact in debates and on the election, no matter how you cut it. Congress is
not doing it's part to hold the President's feet to the fire. The
President keeps on hunting for Lieutenant Calley to blame even though there are
plenty of Captain Medinas up the chain of command in all these agencies.
Panetta, Hillary and Petraeus are all gone to other places.
What kind of organization is structured like this where we're supposed to
believe that the leader is constantly kept in the dark? It seems the primary
focus for Obama, Holder and others is plausible deniability, to the point where
we're expected to believe that they're completely out of the loop from
anything taking place in the administration.I can't imagine
this happening in the private sector, a company President would never tolerate
being kept in the dark and first hearing about this scandal and that in the
press. A real leader would get to the bottom of it and fire the responsible
employees, and implement new policies to ensure that this lack of communication
would never happen again.Yet with this administration we're
seeing this same pattern repeat itself over and over: Fast and Furious, DHS
releasing criminal illegals, Benghazi, IRS, AP wiretap, EPA using fake emails,
etc ... Does Obama frequently cover his ears and run out of cabinet meetings to
avoid learning about scandals?
One of the biggest concerns is that the woman who oversaw this phase of IRS
abuse, has now been put in charge of the IRS division overseeing Obamacare. Funny how some Democrats like David Axelrod are saying that Obama
can't be responsible for stuff like this because the government is just too
big to manage. However those same Democrats are all for more spending and
bigger government. Do we have a disconnect of logic going on here?
I really have to laugh at the way Republicans are investigating these issues and
the way Democrats are complacent.Asking the people that may be
guilty is really stupid, what their going to say yes I was part of operating a
illegal action.To get to the truth you start with the agents
conducting the audits and evaluations, and you ask did your superior give you
the instructions, then you follow the problem up the ladder of organization
asking where the direction came from. You dispose people under oath and you
hold them accountable for what they say.
The IRS began unfairly targeting and delaying conservative groups applying for
tax exempt status in March 2010. It is difficult to believe this wasn't a
strategic decision by the White House in coordination with the IRS as the
election season would be getting underway.But if the White House
didn't know about it, then this reveals a leadership failure and
dysfunction. Americans should expect more from their government, and more from
their president. Some may refer back to past presidents. In my mind we
can't justify failure and dysfunction just because other administrations
likewise struggled. Rather than rationalize failure, shouldn't we learn
from the past and be better than that?Obama certainly thinks of
himself as one of the great American presidents. Shouldn't he be acting as
governing as a great leader. Instead we have dysfunction, failure,
mismanagement, waste, fraud, cover-ups, corruption, a lack of transparency,
redistribution, record debt levels,....
Say No to BO"Seriously, you can't see a disconnect between the
White House and the departments they are supposed to manage?"To
be honest I can't see a disconnect but often times I can see or understand
a connection. Obama is not over the IRS. Congress actually has more influence
on that agency than BO does. As far as connections go, the only thing I have
seen concerning this scandal as of yet is the GOP's intent on using this
for political purposes. There is a reson why congress and the GOP have the
lowest approval ratings of all time. It's because they either refuse or
are incapable of getting anything done.
Can you imagine the tantrums and investigations that would be going on if this
had happened under a Republican President?Nixon did less than this
and was impeached. Obama is getting pitied by the press and doesn't have
to answer for his extreme incompetence.
@Fitness Freak"Implement a flat tax, or better yet, a federal sales
tax."Tax cuts for the rich coupled with tax hikes for the poor
and middle class? No thanks.
@obsessed with bo"...I don't expect Janet Napolitano to
know everything about her department, but she should be able to get answers
within hours. That's not happening. Obama's administration is detached
from the operations of the Executive Branch...".Detached?Republican President Ronald Reagan spent 19 months trying to figure out
what happened with regard to IRAN-Contra before admitting to the American people
that he did not know everything that was going on within his administration
regarding IRAN-Contra.Yet, you expect President Obama to have all
the answers within hours?
At no time did the Obama administration know what the Obama administration was
Wouldn't this be a good time to cut the IRS by about 80% of their staff?
Implement a flat tax, or better yet, a federal sales tax.Since they
can't be trusted; maybe we should find a better way to collect revenue.
Having 80% of the IRS standing in unemployment lines MIGHT send a message to
other federal agencies that they work for us, we don't work for them. Its' long overdue.
@HS FanSeriously, you can't see a disconnect between the White House
and the departments they are supposed to manage?They are called the
Executive Branch because they carry out the law. And Obama and his Cabinet have
been caught with their pants down regarding some major problems over several
departments.I don't expect Janet Napolitano to know everything about
her department, but she should be able to get answers within hours. That's
not happening. Obama's administration is detached from the operations of
the Executive Branch.The alternate explanation is worse; that they know
what's going on and have ordered these shenanigans to be done.
Out of 300 organizations scrutinized, 78 were "conservative." What about
the other 300, many of which were liberal? Why is the IRS being criticized for
doing its job? Didn't we hire the IRS to watchdog for us?
Say No to BO-The IRS scandal has nothing to do with BO's management
style. The GOP will try to create a connection through these hearing for
political purposes. Meanwhile Rome continues to burn and the GOP and Dem's
have picked up a fiddle to play along in Nero's band.
Wrong chief. Could this be a fall guy?
This has more to do with the Obama management style than the IRS.He's
out-of-touch and so is his cabinet.Treasury doesn't know what is
going on at the IRS and takes weeks to find out.Homeland Security
doesn't know what ICE is doing.The AG doesn't know about phone
log for reporters.State Department is in the dark about Benghazi.CIA
has bad intelligence.All these situations and more indicates a White House
that is dysfunctional. Obama's getting the answers he wants and no bad
news. Everyone has deniability but no answers when needed.Poor management
is the only answer here. He's golfing, campaigning or on vacation and
bureaucrats are left to do what they do best.Not unexpected from a man
with a background as community organizer. No real leadership skills; just