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Published: Thursday, May 16 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"To this day the White House states (through Jay Carney, press secretary) that they would have done the same thing over again — because it worked — the president got re-elected and only four Americans lost their lives to pay for it."

Excuse me? Four people died so the president could get re-elected. There may have been incompetence in the response - though this is still under debate - nothing that is being revealed points to the president allowing anyone to die for political purposes. To say people sat in Washington making decisions to intentionally let people die because somehow someone calculated their deaths would advantage the President in the election is almost unimaginable.

The logic.... that these deaths played to Obamas advantage....shows a new low in the political debate... it truly has become win at any cost.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

I don't think bengazhi had much to do with the country not liking Mr Romney or his policies which strongly favored old rich white people.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

The delusion that partisans like Mr. Overfelt continue to believe that the President was re-elected because Ms. Rice's statements on national television is comical, but the continued comparison of understating the cause of a tragedy to the criminal act of burglary shows a clear lack of moral certitude. It's this substitution of partisanship for moral judgment that is making civil policy debate impossible in this country now.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

What was the reason that Nixon left office? Was it because of a "burglary" or was it because he lied?

What was the reason the Clinton was impeached? Was it because he had sex with an intern or was it because he lied under oath?

What is the "problem" of Benghazi? Is it the fact the Obama failed to keep those people safe or is it the fact that he lied, that Hilary Clinton lied and that Susan Rice lied?

Obama is not going to be impeached for his inability to function as Commander in Chief. Obama is not going to be impeached for his failure to act on behalf of the four Americans where were killed. He will face impeachment for lying to the American people and covering up the fact that terrorists attacked our consulate.

The fact that he was in the middle of a campaign and that he thought that the "T" word would cost him votes only adds to his crime of "bearing false witness". Bearing "false witness" has been unethical for 4,000 years.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

Yes, Obama lied! And, apparently, he is the worst liar in the world.

September 12, 2012 - "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

So if this is Obama's way of lying then, like everything else according to conservatives, he can't even do that correctly.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Thanks for the hyperbolic beating of the terminal horse, Frank. Keepin' the paranoid alive.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Watergate was planned, premeditated criminal activity by the White House. Benghazi appears to be a lot of people interpreting things differently. There's a lot of space between Watergate and this Benghazi issue.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Irony Guy. Thanks for bringing up Watergate. It was promoted as the "crime of the century" by Democrats and the news media for months on end even though no one died. A President was forced to resign in disgrace, even though no one died. People went to prison even though no one died. With Benghazi, 4 people died and no one in the Obama administration will answer any questions about all the lies. 4 innocent Americans died and the Democrats and the news media are accepting stonewalling lying and pretending it doesn't matter, all to protect Hillary!

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

Wow, it must be irrational right-wing extremist morning in the readers' forum. Who picked the three letters that ended up in today's paper? Good work, DesNews. If your intent is to illustrate just how shaky the thinking of ultraconservatives is, you are succeeding. Thank goodness for Barry Bickmore's sensible rebuttal to Bob Bennett's wishy-washy editorial. Otherwise today would have been a clean sweep for wackiness.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Do you folks ever get tired of this partisan mud slinging? From birth certificates to now this. Where are the GOP's solutions to real problems effecting millions of Americans. Here we are 5 years into this thing and I have yet to hear or see one. Do we have to wait 3 years for the GOP to offer solutions? And what if they are elected into the White House? Then will we have to endure 4 years of more tax cuts for the rich and wars in the Middle East? Will everything they do be declared as right and if you disagree with them will you be labeled unamerican?

Because that's what happened between 2000-08.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

Mountanman - Remind me, which "lie" from the Obama Administration caused the four people to die? The timeline of events is really hazy to me. Even if lies occurred, I would submit that you are engaging in what's called "illusory correlation."

However, if lies and subsequent American death upset you, please tell me how you feel about the Iraq War. Go into detail about a situation wherein an administration actually fabricated the scenario, rather than reacted to one, and then the lie literally cost thousands of innocent American soldiers their lives. Please, demonstrate some integrity for once and tell me all about your disgust w/ the Bush Administration.

In fact, of all the topical discussions this week, the only one meriting a "gate" addendum would be the DOJ's actions against the AP. That is an actual issue that justifies true righteous indignation on our part, it is distgusting.

Finally, just as an FYI, I believe there is an "i" in "mountain." Thought you should know.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Where are the GOP's solutions to real problems effecting [sic] millions of Americans."

So, a liberal finally admits "effecting" [meaning "to produce as an effect; bring about; accomplish; make happen"] millions of new Americans -- presumably from the millions of illegal aliens present in America -- is a real problem?

Interesting.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

Why are Republicans determined to find crime in talking points instead of finding the criminals who killed the Americans?

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

"He will face impeachment for lying to the American people" The same way Cheney was impeached for lying about weapons of mass destruction. Yes Cheney knew, no question. Or maybe Obama will be impeached the same way Regan was impeached for lying about selling arms to Iran, which in fact was illegal. Not going to happen Mr. Richards. Covering up a criminal act is a no brainer. Lying under oath is asking for trouble. Changing talking points..seriously?

HS Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

pragmastisferlife-
Bush and Chenney should be tried and I think convicted of war crimes. America is hypocritic in the eyes of the world as the facts support we invaded Iraq under false pretenses, killing thousands of innocent people and causing pain and suffering for generations of people. The Regan administration was found guilty in Iran Contra and Ollie served time. He took the blame for Regan but all know he was informed and supported the unconstiutional crimes that took place. I have not seen any factual evidence up to this point that anything Obama did was unconstitional or criminal. Stupid, yes, criminal no. This is politcs, plain and simple and it should keep BO from getting anything done in the next 3 years which is the sole purpose of it.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@mike richards
so I thought you were against putting people on trail through the media Mike?

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Stalwart Sentinel. Where have you been? Three men who were actual witnesses (whistle blowers) testified very recently and their version of Benghazi is very different than we have been lead to believe by the Obama administration's lies and cover-ups. Wise up, life is short!

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

HS fan, I basically agree. However, I'm still not quite sure what Obama himself or his immediate surrogates did other than referee a free for all between different agencies who were trying to cover themselves. The talking points that emerged seem to be a compromise based on information that was evident and some that was accurate albeit speculative at the time.

Steve C. Warren
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Re: "four Americans lost their lives so we could 'save' the president's re-election."

Whether you like or dislike Obama, this is a despicable comment.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

Mountanman - Ah, vague generalities; thank you so much, your response was very helpful. And there I was, lacking wisdom, when I thought that you would actually have a legitimate response to such a simple question.

Let's try this again:

Which "lie" from the Obama Administration caused the four people to die?

Direct question, I expect a direct answer. If you want to continue to obfuscate then please refrain from responding.

Further, in order to ensure you have any integrity on the matter, please elucidate on what you have done/said, up to this point, with regards to impeaching/trying people in the Bush43 Administration for the proactive lying that resulted in the Iraq Qar and thousands of innocent American soldiers' deaths? I'm sure you have been extremely proactive on that front, I'm just looking to confirm your consistency.

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