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Published: Wednesday, May 15 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

It's time for the press corps to wake up and exercise its First Amendment rights. They've been remarkably submissive toward the Obama administration.

Use it or lose it.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Is it healthy for a society such as ours to refer to the government as the 'enemy'? It's our government, for which we are responsible, and in which we can participate. Participate, by the way, does not mean standing around yelling about it. Maybe we should take more time to own and participate in the process rather than villify it.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Political Correctness came about because journalists, politicians, or anybody in a position of influence stopped telling the truth! When the house is on fire, it doesn't do much good to express,in a low submissive voice, to a child that it is time to leave! Where are the voices of warning, the voices of truth, the accountable voices? Not in a politician's voice, nor from a journalist, nor from the highest steps of the Washington establishment! The honors of men are too important to speak truthfully. It's not too late! Anyone out there?

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

This is no “common cause” as Kathleen Parker puts it. For right-wing groups who promote the myth of the liberal news media, it’s a dilemma.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

The right wing has a common cause with literally no one else. Just look at the polls and you'll see how little America agrees with them.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"Is it healthy for a society such as ours to refer to the government as the 'enemy'? It's our government, for which we are responsible, and in which we can participate."

Is it healthy for the government to be an enemy to liberty? The Declaration of Independence talks about grievances to governments. I suppose that only applies to other governments?

Especially considering recent events, such as the Benghazi scandal (yes, it is a scandal), the IRS, and now the AP incidents, there is much evidence that the government is acting as an enemy to the people.

By the way, participating only works if the government cooperates. Most Americans opposed Obama's healthcare bill. Obama passed it anyway. In fact, he had to buy politicians' cooperation to get it to pass. Every bit about that bill was hidden from everyone (even Nancy Pelosi said they had to pass it to find out what's in it). So much for participation!

Obama's idea of participating in his government is "they can come for the ride, but they have to sit in back".

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

The mainstream media is only having a lovers quarrel with Mr. Obama. Their dilemma is uncovering repeated misrepresentations, "stylistic" changes, lying and unreported facts from this administration. If indignation is not bipartisan then liberals are endorsing deceptive government, a theme they have made central since Nixon's debacle. When the government in general and the IRS in particular lose a basic level of credibility, chaos results. Mr. Obama advocates a post-partisan era and he can bring this to pass by being a non-partisan leader in these crises, not a David Axelrod stone wall.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Hemlock,

"....Their dilemma is uncovering repeated misrepresentations, "stylistic" changes, lying and unreported facts from this administration. If indignation is not bipartisan then liberals are endorsing deceptive government, a theme they have made central since Nixon's debacle...."
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Let’s find the facts first and sort them out before we scream Watergate II. Some in the GOP were so trigger-happy with the smell of blood at the Clinton/Lewinsky matter that they went off the deep end. Indignation is one thing. Hysteria is what happens when rage unbalances reason.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

I thought Maybe Faux News was going to start reporting the news instead of "Opinuendo."

So what was it they had in common? Oh yeah they use the word news in their name to fool righties, not hard but effective.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@Craig Clark – “Let’s find the facts first and sort them out before we scream Watergate II. Some in the GOP were so trigger-happy with the smell of blood at the Clinton/Lewinsky matter that they went off the deep end. Indignation is one thing. Hysteria is what happens when rage unbalances reason.”

Perfectly stated!

But don’t expect the Right to treat this as a Sherlock Holmes-like fact finding exercise. Like Benghazi this will be reported (at least on one channel) in a manner that seeks to do maximum damage to the president as is clear by some of the rhetorical flourish in this article.

Contrast what we’ll see over the next few weeks/months with how it would be treated if this happened under Bush. It will be a clear display of how in-the-tank partisan much of media has become.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Hutterite: I am participating in the process. Why is it that those who want a society that doesn't require the government to make decisions for them are equated with someone inside a compound with a ring of explosives around its perimeter? Why is it that a belief in individual choice is equated with a barbarian living on a deserted island? When the house is burning down, why am I an extremist to remind the occupants that a water pistol won't help?

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

With regard to KP's tome...in her own eloquent terms...

Whatever.

BTW:

The IRS has never examined a liberal foundation/organization/person, 501(c)(3) etc.?

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@bandersen – “When the house is burning down, why am I an extremist…?”

It’s because where you see a “house burning down” those of us to the left of you (which I would call anyone from traditional Republicans to left-wingers), we just see a democracy in action.

Sometimes your guys win and sometimes they don’t. What you don’t see from the vast majority of non-extremist mined people is the rage and paranoia every time the other side wins an election, and especially when the other guy happens to be… let’s just say, ethnically non-traditional.

The far-right used to be the nutty fringe (nothing personal) but now with talk radio and their own television network, forgive us if the moderate masses don’t start getting a little worried when you guys rail on about tyranny and the 2nd Amendment.

Should we hold accountable and sometimes even fear the government… of course. But in today’s multi-national world I fear corporations just as much if not more, and I fear the well armed people who seem to prefer an Ayn Rand/Religious Right-type theocracy over our democracy as well.

Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

@Tyler D "...let’s just say, ethnically non-traditional."

Hey, look, everyone! Race is being injected into the discussion! And look who's doing it. Always the accuser, and never the accused.

"Ayn Rand/Religious Right-type theocracy"

Now *there's* a phrase that'll make your head spin. Ayn Rand was an atheist. But I suppose coherence wasn't the purpose.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@Nate – “Hey, look, everyone! Race is being injected into the discussion!”

Yes Nate, you sure put me in my place… because we know for a fact that everyone on the far-right is pleased as punch to have a black man as president. Or is this a secret that we never let out of the bubble?

@Nate - “Ayn Rand was an atheist. But I suppose coherence wasn't the purpose.”

We’re on the same page here… I’ve always considered the bizarre bedfellows of those carrying “who is John Galt” signs showing up at the same rallies as large numbers of the religious right one of the strangest political spectacles in my lifetime.

And by the way, your “other post” comment about CO was well taken since the carbon monoxide in exhaust fumes will certainly kill you before the CO2 does (even though CO2 makes up a larger percentage by volume of exhaust fumes).

So how about this analogy instead – lock yourself in an airtight room for a few hours, breathe normally, and tell me at what point this “natural gas” starts to become a problem.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Tyler: You haven't looked around much I guess. Aside from the fact that we will have either a democratic or republican president, which by the way should be a clue as that we are talking about two sides of the same coin, most of state houses are conservative. However, that being said, if you are so blind that you can't see that our government doesn't work, is bankrupt, and the majority of Americans,you accepted, view the politicians that vote for all your government programs as lower than a skunk's behind, I doubt that anything said or done will change your view. So, when you talk of the right wing conspiracy theorists, its not me your talking about. I just look around and I can see how inefficient, warped, and corrupted it is, a view shared by a majority of Americans, as ignorant as they sometimes are. Also, if I am an 'extremist', so must be our Founding Fathers, since they had some pretty harsh things to say about government and the gospel of social justice, which you most likely ascribe. Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and others are really good company to keep.

SLars
Provo, UT

The US media is far to the left. Look at their owners, almost all are Democrats.

Who knew that Obama was Nixons protege. Fast and furious, Benghazi, AP, IRS. And none of the administration heads knew what was going on? Is this the government America needs?

A couple of them could fix an election.

David
Centerville, UT

I kept reading the word "incompetent". However, I also read the word "sinister".

One word certainly describes this administration.

The jury's out on the other word. Time will tell.

Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

@Tyler D "you sure put me in my place..."

There's really no place for making unprompted accusations of racism. When people do it, they're usually projecting.

"...'who is John Galt'..."

It does spoil your theocracy theory, doesn't it? Perhaps there's something else bringing these people together. Something that goes to the heart of both libertarianism and Judeo-Christian values. Liberty comes to mind.

"...tell me at what point this 'natural gas' starts to become a problem."

Okay, first tell me how many oceans, rivers, forests, and fields are in your airtight room. Because it's an analogy, right?

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

"Pending a verdict from investigators investigating investigators, it is abundantly clear that something is awry at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, not least of which is an apparent failure to understand the basic principles of American governance. Incompetence may be an explanation, but it is hardly reassuring."

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**And**, I think is should be noted, this "incompetence" is **after** four years of on-the-job training.

Which leads one to wonder about the claim of incompetence versus simple corruption and deliberate infractions of the law.

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