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Published: Monday, May 13 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Iron Rod
Salt Lake City, UT

Wouldn't it be simple to ask both Mr Swallor and Mr Shurtlift the question did you both stay at the luxury condo in Newport Beach and charge items to Mr Sessions account?

A simple yes or no answer would be easy to verify.

Why are we not asking this question?

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

The DNews has been persistent in its call to investigate Swallow, as it should be. However, it has been appallingly silent about likewise calling for an investigation into the part that Harry Reid and the Democrats played.

The DNews calls for justice, but then ignores the fact that Johnson has implicated Reid in his part of the case just as much as Swallow. How is it "justice" to call only for a one-sided investigation?

If Swallow is corrupt, he must be removed from office. But the same goes for Reid, and there must be a full and complete investigation into his involvement.


We need an AG whose ethics and honesty are above reproach, not one who continually seems to be skirting the line when it comes to ethics. Even if investigation ultimately determines that no laws were "technically" broken in Swallow's conduct, the very fact that he seems to frequently walk the bare edge of the ethical line compromises his credibility and destroys trust. Meanwhile, as the slow process of investigations and hearings grinds on, the public his stuck with an AG office hamstrung by the unresolved questions. The state deserves and needs better. I voted for Swallow. I now believe it's time for him to step aside.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

The courts are the proper place to discuss John Swallow, not the newspaper. Every citizen in America is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. Let the Court PROVE John Swallow guilty. Until he is PROVEN guilty, let those who would crucify him in the media hold their accusations.

Participating in "media justice" shows only that the media is more concerned with selling newspapers than with the rights of a citizen to a fair trial when he has the opportunity to face his accusers.

Orem, UT

Mr. Richards,
You must be friends with Mr. Swallow because your judgement is seriously clouded. Swallow is a public figure. It can and should be in the newspaper. Something tells me if Swallow was a democrat your defense of swallow would be quite different. In fact, I know that it would. Swallow clearly does not represent Utah's values. Time to go.

Far East USA, SC

"The courts are the proper place to discuss John Swallow, not the newspaper. Every citizen in America is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. Let the Court PROVE John Swallow guilty. Until he is PROVEN guilty, let those who would crucify him in the media hold their accusations."

Mr Richards.

It would be refreshing is you took that approach to all political issues. Not just those who are Republican.

Salt Lake City, UT

Three facts that both John Swallow and his predecessor, Mark Shurtleff, do not dispute:

1. Marc Sessions Jenson was convicted of a Ponzi Scheme in 2008, and ordered to pay over $4 million in victim restitution.

2. Jenson is in prison now because he did not pay one dime of the ordered restitution.

3. Since conviction, Shurtleff and Swallow each individually received more from Jenson than Jenson's victims received.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

My journalism professor at BYU pounded into the class that Who, What, Where, When were the questions. "How" was to left to the editorial board unless "how" was relevant to the story.

Those "facts" have been told. The Deseret News, and other newspapers, have done their duty to report the facts concerning John Swallow. If new "facts" emerge, the newspapers should report those facts.

Those who want tabloid journalism want to see citizens dragged through the streets at the end of a rope. They want the opponents of those citizens to spread gossip and innuendo. They want newspapers to "report" that gossip and innuendo as "news". Let them buy their tabloids at the grocery store. Let the Deseret News print facts and facts only. Let the Courts use facts ("evidence") to judge misconduct.

If the Court finds misconduct, then let John Swallow spend time in prison, but let him have his day in court without newspapers printing gossip and innuendo.


Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Mike Richards said:
Benghazi makes Watergate look like a Sunday School picnic. It's time that Obama was held accountable for his actions as Commander In Chief. It's time that everyone involved in the Benghazi cover-up be held accountable. Lives were lost. American lives.

Mike on Democratic's - Guilty until proven guilty.

J Thompson

Let me jump in here for a minute. What Mike Richards said is absolutely correct. As usual, there are those whose only job is to attack Mike Richards and others who tell the truth, who demand that newspapers limit themselves to journalism, who stand for the Constitution.

One poster brought up Benghazi and tried to smear Mike Richards because Mike demands accountability from Obama and the others who tried to coverup Benghazi. What is the difference between Benghazi and Swallow? The Deseret News and other newspapers continue to "speculate" about Swallow. The Deseret News HAS reported about Benghazi, but MOST newspapers have only "reported" what the White House wants them to report about Benghazi.

A citizen must demand accountability from those who are elected. A citizen must demand that those who are elected tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. When the truth is not told by elected officials, the "4th branch" of government (newspapers) are duty bound to inform the citizens. That has not happened with Benghazi.

There is a huge difference between Benghazi and Swallow. Swallow's deeds have been reported. He deserves a trial. Benghazi has not been truthfully reported by most newspapers.

Salt Lake City, UT

The air needs to be cleared in a non partisan manner. It doesn't look as if that is happening now. Democrats are in a feeding frenzy and Republicans appear to be looking the other way.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Mr. Swallow needs to step down. We were warned by many voices before the election that this candidate was used to skating close to a thin line, but a highly reputable and successful district attorney was not elected because he was a Democrat.I wish people in this state would open their eyes and take a look at what they are doing.

L White
Springville, UT

This editorial really disturbs me. It seems to me that the rights of a citizen are being ignored so that a newspaper can make a few more sales. When one poster appealed to us to remember that as Americans, we have the right to be tried and to face our accusers. He called for a trial and for the appropriate prison time if Mr. Swallow is found guilty. He called for an end of "speculation" and "gossip" in the press. He was shouted down.

I guess it means nothing to be an American. I guess that it means nothing to be innocent until proven guilty. I guess that all that matters is how the mob feels about someone. Let's just throw out all law and let that mob mete out "justice". Let's let the mob decide whether Caesar gives a "thumbs up" or a "thumbs down" in this media circus.

When people think so little of law, they deserve the circus that they desire.

South Jordan, Utah

Today's editorial verbiage suggests it is a lawyers product. Instead of receiving a lesson on English common law, most hoped for a quick thorough investigation and resolution. When many of the facts are in dispute, quick correct justice is impossible. Everybody should buckle up for the difficult ride. Of course, if these allegations had been known before the election, the political system (the voters) could have handled it. Now, because of one party power in this State, and for better or for worse, we are stuck with at least two judicial investigations and possibly more.

Centerville, UT

Certainly Mr. Swallow is entitled to the presumption of innocence in a court of law and a trial by a jury of his peers. Neither the Deseret News nor any poster on this thread has suggested otherwise. The presumption of innocence applies only to the legal process; individuals (and newspapers) are free to express their views.

I don't think the Deseret News is editorilizing about Mr. Swallow because it will sell newspapers. I believe the editors' criticism of Mr. Swallow is genuine.

Mike Richards says the Deseret News shouldn't criticize Mr. Swallow. Yet he accuses the Deseret News for selling its integrity for readership. That seems inconsistent to me.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I've never understood why this is so complicated. Any school teacher or police officer would have their conduct immediately investigated by the State. Nobody ever waits for Law Enforcement to do it for them in those cases. There is no excuse for the foot dragging as this editorial makes clear. Just get it done Governor Herbert.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Remember... Just because your paraniod doesn't mean they're aren't after you. And just because their after you doesn't mean you're paranoid.

News headlines or OPED pieces can make him LOOK guilty, but that doesn't mean he IS guilty. Anybody who watches Dateline, 20/20, etc, knows they can totally convince you of the conclusion they want. They frequently tell a crime story and have me totally convinced he's guilty, then they say "when we come back well expose some other details that may cause you to question your whole conclusion"... and after the break they may have you totally convinced he's innocent, or at least put your previous presumption into serious question. so yes, the investigation is needed and if they find serious accusations... a trial is needed (to do it the Constitutional way).

Murray, UT

When Mr. Johnson made is initial claims against Mr. Swallow, I was in favor of waiting until the feds investigation was completed and went public. Now we have accusations from Mr. Jensen, who claims to have documents to prove his claims; we have election law violation claims; and an ethics violation claim to the State Bar. Where does it stop?

The accumulations of accusations creates distractions which impairs the AG's office to fully carryout its workload requirements. It is an ongoing black eye to Utah as well. Mr. Swallow needs to step down now and spend whatever time he needs to clear his name, if indeed it can be cleared. And if he does happen to clear his name, he can then run again for election. But the only right thing to do right now is for Mr. Swallow to step down now.

New York, NY

@mike richards
posting defenses of yourself under various sign ins only reaffirms happy valley heretics point as I distinctly remember your outrage of people using anonymous or various names in the past.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

I won't be the hypocrite Mike often is. The President and the Department of State should be fully investigated for Benghazi as should John Swallow and Mike Shurtleff and perhaps the governor for these latest issues. The press has a role to play by bringing this news to the public. The lack of coverage in the former situation is disturbing I have to admit, the Utah press actually has done a decent job but probably could do better.

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