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Published: Friday, May 10 2013 6:02 a.m. MDT

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worf
Mcallen, TX

With other challenges facing this country, gay marriage is irrelevant.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@worf
irrelevant? then we can expect you are not going to waist anymore of your precious time commenting on the subject since there are so many more important issues?

Contrarius
Lebanon, TN

Congrats again to Minnesota!

These advances are most certainly NOT irrelevant to anyone who cares about civil rights.

The US Constitution and equal rights will prevail, given time and the ongoing efforts of people who are willing to fight for their rights. :-)

worf
Mcallen, TX

Gays are freed to gain the benefits of marriage. I could just cry.

Contrarius
Lebanon, TN

@Worf --

"Gays are freed to gain the benefits of marriage. I could just cry."

Many people are crying right now -- for joy. The recognition of full citizenship for same-sex couples is something worth getting emotional over. :-)

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@worf
You seem to be spending a lot of time commenting on the "irrelevant."

D. Call
El Paso, TX

I am ashamed of my home state today. This article forgot to mention the fact that last fall the proponents of same-sex marriage said up and down the state that the constitutional amendment banning gay marriage was not needed because there was no plans for that. They lied, just like they are lying about how gay marriage doesn't harm straight couples or religions.

George
New York, NY

@d call
care to back up any of those claims with proof?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Well done worf!

I'm with you

God decided only a man and woman should ever procreate.

That's enough evidence for me he only wants a man and woman together.

Contrarius
Lebanon, TN

@Chris B --

"God decided only a man and woman should ever procreate."

Yeah -- and if God had meant for us to fly, we'd have wings.

Are ya gonna try to outlaw airplanes, Chris?

@George --

"care to back up any of those claims with proof?"

Of course he won't -- because it isn't true.

" just like they are lying about how gay marriage doesn't harm straight couples or religions."

Exactly how does gay marriage harm straight couples or religions? Inquiring minds want to know.

George
New York, NY

@Chrisb

Boy Chris you got us on the ropes with that one, oh wait your interpretation of your God means nothing in terms of evidence to me since I don't share your beliefs and you are unable to provide any evidence to support his existence, that was close, you almost got me.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

So we have worf synically throwing in the towel,
and Chris B still trying to convince us that marriage is ONLY about procreating.

Wrong by both accounts.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Contrarius:

Virtue is lost in degrees.

Legalizing gay marriage deafens the voice of truth, and leads to disfiguring the soul of society. Study this out.

Sorry if you can't understand.

George
New York, NY

@worf

For being such an irrelevant you sure seem to spend a lot of time on it. Again your particular religious beliefs really not convincing evidence of anything but of what your particular religious beliefs are. Beliefs are nothing but self-assuring circular reasoning.

Contrarius
Lebanon, TN

@worf --

"Legalizing gay marriage deafens the voice of truth, and leads to disfiguring the soul of society. Study this out."

Ummmmm. No.

You've got to remember at least one vital thing, Worf. Specifically, your personal "truth" is not the same thing as everyone else's "truth". Your opinion doesn't get to override everyone else's opinion, and your religion doesn't get to override everyone else's religion. Many religious people support gay marriage, and you have no right to think that your belief is somehow better than theirs.

Sorry if you can't understand.

zoar63
Mesa, AZ

@Contrarius

I realize I cannot convince you with our religious beliefs but those religious beliefs that we hold to have made some of us concerned about what is occurring in this country. Now from an LDS point of view, homosexuality is a sin, I am sure you can see why might be so against going along with what the majority desires (If the polling data is correct), and what will be the result if we do.

BOM teaching about governing according to the voice of the people:

Now it is not common that the voice of the people desireth anything contrary to that which is right; but it is common for the lesser part of the people to desire that which is not right; therefore this shall ye observe and make it your law--to do your business by the voice of the people.

And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction even as he has hitherto visited this land.
(Mosiah 29:26-27)

amazondoc
USA, TN

@Zoar --

"I realize I cannot convince you with our religious beliefs... "

And I sympathize with the fact that you have concerns.

However, this country isn't a theocracy.

Our laws aren't dictated by what somebody's Bible -- or Torah -- or Koran -- or Book of Mormon -- might decree.

Our laws are dictated by the will of the people, the judgment of the legislature, and adherence to the Constitution.

I'm all for somebody who has concerns about an issue stepping forward and saying, "I have concerns about this issue. My religious text says that this issue is wrong. And I believe in my religious text, so I believe this issue is wrong, too."

Just don't expect me -- or other Americans -- to suddenly forget about facts and logic and cry out, "WOW! If your religious text says something, then obviously it MUST BE TRUE."

Sorry, but reality just doesn't work that way. There are many religions and many religious people out there, and they very often disagree about important issues.

Like, for instance, gay marriage.

And no particular religion gets to win the debate just because it happens to be the one that YOU were raised to believe in.

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