Published: Tuesday, May 7 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
@Robert Samuelson "Today's crucial scarcity is not skills. It's
confidence."Let's not pass any more legislation to see
what's in it. In fact, now that we've seen what's in it,
let's repeal.Socialism doesn't work.
Even with the advantage on their side, availability of foreign labor, automation
and technological advancement, Businessmen cheat in the market for human labor.
They cheat by propagandizing lack of jobs when their real motive is
low wages caused by creating an overabundance of labor. Coupling
this with their fat bank accounts and their generic pledge to defeat President
Obama and the democrats, Americans are in a very tight place.
This country now has over 300 million people and counting. Question: Do we
ever want to limit the growth? I worry that if we don't, we will in about
50 years become a country of some 600 to 800 million going on a billion. Do you
think we can sustain that many people at the level of prosperity we have come to
expect? I don't. The world has some 6 billion people in it (most from the
3rd world and growing) and you can bet that about 80% of those people would come
to the U.S. if they could. To maintain a 1st world economy and country we have
to take someting of a selfish attitude about just who and how many more of the
worlds people we let in. Otherwise, we will find ourselves with a LOT more in
the wagon than pulling it. In earlier days of this countries history, the
Statue of Liberty saying of "Give me you tired, poor, hungry........"
may have been a necessary sentiment. But I don't think it is practical any
"Among computer programmers, inflation-adjusted wages have remained flat for
a decade, says a study by the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think
tank."This proves that there is NO shortage of IT workers.
Employers and politicians have been saying there is a shortage for a decade. But
the employers and politicians want cheaper labor, not a solution to a mythical
labor shortage.Therefore, we do NOT need increases to the H-1B visa.
In fact, the cap on the visa needs to be lowered, not increased, to allow the
unemployed/underemployed to gain employment, and to encourage college students
to study computer science again.
So where are the jobs? After over a decade now of tax breaks and other hand outs
the rich have yet to make good on their promises to create jobs. Where are they?
We give them tax breaks, subsidies, and bail out their failures and what do we,
the American people, get in return? Remember how that rising tide was supposed
to raise all boats? Well, we are seeing the gigantic yachts of the super rich
rising but most of our tiny sailboats, fishing boats, canoes, and inter tubes
have yet to notice any increases. In fact, most of us have gone down.
U of U Fan:Working in IT, I would submit that there is an ongoing
shortage of *ultra-productive* IT workers. Anyone who works in IT quickly
realizes that productivities between any two people of the same job title and
experience can vary by up to 10 times, or more. The top tier talent can master
technology and have an enormous impact.Back when Novell and
WordPerfect were around, I watched Microsoft destroy them, through great
marketing and hard-nosed business practices, but also because Microsoft
cultivated a corporate culture of high-achievement, and the workers averaged
maybe 60 hours a week or more, yet they were highly engaged and motivated. The
good people who worked at Novell and WordPerfect, who were also scoutmasters,
and parents, and involved in their community, really didn't stand a
chance.So, IT firms are looking for the crème of the crop, to
get that edge over the competition. The top tier often involves young, bright,
up-and-coming IT talent, from India and other places.A lot of
experienced IT people in the US are considered "re-treads". It's
just the truth.
@The Real Maverick "So where are the jobs?"Waiting out
Obama's term of office, I'm afraid. A lost decade.Maybe
*you* should try creating some jobs. See what it's like to grapple with the
requirements of Obamacare.
@10CC"Working in IT, I would submit that there is an ongoing
shortage of *ultra-productive* IT workers. "----------I
agree completely that there is a a shortage of ultra-productive IT workers. I
vehemently disagree that the H-1B program solves that problem. Instead, the H-1B
visa exasperates the problem. The large majority of workers with the H-1B visa
are the lowest in the categories that are used to rate them. Either that, or the
visas are used by offshoring organizations. Almost all visas are used for these
two purposes. Almost all workers with the visa are paid lower. "Better"
and "cheaper" are conflicting terms. Given the oversupply of workers
with the visa, the "best and brightest" move to other careers. By the way, in my experience, working a ton of overtime is a result of a lack
of talent, NOT a display of talent. Novell's problems were at the marketing
level, NOT engineering. Look at Microsoft now - they are being passed up by
Google, Apple, and other organizations. Their cutthroat approach to work, with
their ultra-competitive employee performance system that puts "employee
against employee" is halting their innovation.
The facts are now PROVEN -- corporations LIE for profit. There is NO
"skilled worker shortage." Indeed there is an abundance of UNEMPLOYED
Americans with every bit of smarts, skills, and education to fill any and all
job openings -- past, present and future. Read the new study,
“Guestworkers in the high-skill U.S. labor market: An analysis of supply,
employment, and wage trends” by the American Economic Policy Institute for
the FACTS. And search on “Cohen & Grigsby video” or "H1-B
SCAM" for the reality of today's job market. This is about
GREED, propaganda and the lobbying of foreign interests. These visa programs
harm both our nation and citizens. And are destroying the nation's base of
engineers, scientists and technology workers. Write your Congressman
-- NOW.-----Merchants have no country. The mere spot
they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which
they draw their gains. -- Thomas Jefferson
All the catch 22's of the job market, you can't get that job until
you've already had that job before and now you can't get a job unless
you already have a job.And then those poor souls get judged by those
around them like, "just get a job!"
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