Sounds to me like another lose/lose for workers. Here I am, not even trying to
get ahead, just trying to pay my bills, and my boss won't let me work more
than 40 hours. What a hindrance Washington has become to people trying to work!
They really must want everyone on the dole. Shame on them, and shame on all of
you who support either side. I support NO side on this lose/lose issue.
Lost in DC,I think maybe the difference is that I doubt there are
many government employees working for minimum wage. Also, government regulation
prevents exploitation of workers like occurs in the low levels private
@lost in DC"so you are still OK with the federal government
doing it to their employees."I know this was directed to me in
any fashion, but I am a hated federal employee in Utah and I detest "Comp
Time In Lieu of Overtime." When I get called in on a Sunday
night to fix a computer problem that takes four hours, I get FOUR hours of Comp
Time. Comp Time is given by my agency 1 for 1. I then have one year to take
those four hours off. So I get to take four hours on a Tuesday when my family
is at work and school instead of valuable time on a Sunday. I would much rather
have the cash at $1.5 for every $1. Also, this increased expense to my employer
may make him think twice before neglecting maintenance and not dividing the
In case some of you missed it, the first few lines of the article explain why it
is probably a good idea. The Federal Government does it with its workers. This
plan actually sounds like it should be coming from the Democrats. They are
probably resisting it because they didn't think of it first, and don't
want Republicans to get credit for the idea. In the military when I mustered
out, I had 60 days un-used leave. I could have either left the military 60 days
early, or taken the money. There is nothing wrong with an employee having a
choice on this issue. But, division in D.C. (caused by both sides equally for
all you Obama, Reid, supporters) will trump good policy. We need some inspired
new leadership in Washington that we did not get with the last 2 elections, as
some had hoped for. Too bad. In the end Obama is just another typical
politician, nothing special.
Skeptic,so you are still OK with the federal government doing it to their
What will happen eventually is that it will change to some employees will not be
paid overtime but will have to take time off instead of being paid. In federal
employment comp time can take away some of the leave time that is built up with
others.Plus and minus. The unions will help protect the workers,
however that comes out. Political parties won't be able to work this out,
not even with a contract with America that they represent.
I agree with RedShirt. Why is the Federal government sticking their nose into
private business anyway? Leave them alone. Get out of the way.
Lost in DC,Too many have a difficult time comprehending the inherit
limitations of others, they feel because they have scaled Mt. Everest everyone
should be able to do it. It is just not the way god made the world or the way
things are. Can you spare a dime brother, if not how about a smile and a kind
Skeptic,so what part of the plan denies the laborer his wages? In order
to get the compensatory time, he HAS to get his 40 hours first. If he is
struggling to put bread on the table while working FULL-TIME, maybe he needs to
increase his skillset and value.of course, with Obamacare forcing
more and more employers to push more and more employees to part-time status,
this whole compensatory time off is becoming moot - it will MANDATE time off,
with even less ability to put bread on the table.And you are still
OK with the government doing it, but not private employers. Yes, punish those
evil government employees!
Those who are quickest to blame others for unscrupulous motives, usually have a
few of their own...
How about this for a novel approach. How about we let the businesses decide?If you don't like your employer's rules for overtime, get a
@ lost in DCPerhaps what some people are over looking is that most workers
are laboring to put bread on the table for their families. They are not looking
for free time to play golf, etc., or other luxuries that the poor can not
afford.. The worker needs and deserves to be paid for his labor. But maybe
management should be paid with free time so they can play more golf.
This is a way for the GOP to support companies to AVOID having to pay over time
at time and a Half.GOP all is pro-company, anti-Employee.
Sergio, Blue,So you are OK with government shifting the burden of
labor costs to the detriment of the workers and avoiding paying higher payroll
taxes, but you oppose it in the private sector.No, the real reason
the left hates this idea is because it removes some of the labor bosses power
and influence. Anything that empowers the individual worker over the union is
hated by the left.
Who gets to decide when the time off can be taken? Will an employee be able to
extend a paid vacation by a week? Or will the employer mandate that the
employee take 2 hours off every Wednesday morning for 20 weeks?
This probably won't do much. From what I'm hearing, many businesses
are reducing hours from full time to part time to avoid the Obama care fees and
penalties. Many employees will be lucky to still get 40 hours per week,
overtime seems very unlikely.
It all depends on how tough (and how many penalties for non-compliance)are
written into the bill.For instance: many years ago a labor lawyer
told me that in the "public" employment sector any overtime accrued is
"property", therefore YOU own it and may redeem it in any way YOU
choose, regardless of how the supervisors may feel.Don't know
how accurate this is, but it makes sense that AFTER an employer allows you to
work overtime, with their full knowledge, they owe you in EITHER compensation
Substituting overtime pay for "Comp Time" is a nifty way to lower a
businesses' employee payroll taxes because it lowers employee's total
earnings if that employee regularly works overtime. If you're a large
enough employer you can always schedule other workers to cover employees who are
having to take a half-day off instead of having to pay someone overtime.Will these business then next declare that most of their employees are
also in the "exempt" status and thus only give comp time on a 1:1 rate
instead of the 1.5:1 rate for genuine overtime payments?This is the
government you get when corporations have bought your government.
@one vote,That blurry figure is John Boehner, GOP speaker of the
House. Pretty important guy in that he controls all spending.
It seems the GOP always favors capitalist's manipulations to shift the
burden of labor costs to the determent of the workers. I seems nothing less
than slave labor would completely satisfy the GOP.
Who is that blurry figure in the background of the picture on this article?
This would be great for school teachers...not so much for kids.