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Published: Sunday, May 5 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

Various hidden and unhidden cameras are catching advocates for abortion approving of barbaric treatment. When a fetus is aborted in a late-term pregnancy, if a 22 week old fetus falls out on the table before it is killed, it is killed. What then is the difference between a 22 week old and a 24 week old fetus? The difference is that the supreme court in Roe v. Wade said that one is viable and the other is not. So therefore, the 22 week old fetus is not a person.

I do not believe that life starts at conception. I don't think preventing an embryo from implanting on the uterus is the same as murder. But I think that aborting a 22 week old fetus, or dumping a living fetus into the toilet, or letting one wail on the operating room table, (stuff that is happening), is 90% of the way there. But no one has broken the law because, as per Roe v. Wade, the fetus is not viable. So we can live without our consequences. Media can portray women as sex objects, chastity is bad for business, everyone gets to pretend that they are liberal.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Dick Polman, writing for the Philadelphia Inquirer on the claim by conservatives that the "liberal" media ignored the Gosnell story:

The horrific details were first released in a grand jury report back in 2011 — which was when I first learned of the case. I read about it that year, thanks to a pair of stories in The New York Times.

Gee, I guess the Times didn't get the conspiracy memo.

Nor did the Philadelphia Inquirer, which has long tracked the Gosnell story.

Nor did the Associated Press, which has run roughly 20 stories since jury selection.

Nor did NPR, which did a Gosnell story two years ago.

Nor did Time magazine, which started covering the story two years ago.

Nor did Slate, the online magazine, which started covering the story two years ago — as did The Daily Beast.

Care to guess who hasn't closely covered the Gosnell story? The conservative press.

The Washington Times, for instance, ran an AP story at the outset of the trial, but never sent a reporter to cover it. Instead, the paper has run half a dozen stories about how the "liberal" media supposedly isn't covering it.

Christian 24-7
Murray, UT

So if a woman carries a baby for 22 weeks, why not go just a few more so the baby can live and be adopted? 28-30 weekers do very well, especially when early delivery is expected and prepared for. If they haven't killed it for 22 weeks, is 6 more weeks (a mere 20% longer) so much to ask?

But the depraved people in society want to argue about person-hood instead of saving the babies. It is sick that the realities of late term abortion have to be published in the media, but those sick realities are happening, and babies are dying terrible deaths. Pro-choicers are seeing the fruits of their position, and it is nasty to the core. No wonder they are uncomfortable with it. All people with any heart are sickened.

Nan BW
ELder, CO

This is such a sad and disheartening topic, but the article covers reality well. We need to view abortion for what it is, murder.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

Truthseeker

You may point to a few stories in order to feign that the media did their job, but the network media did not report any of this until they were shamed into it; so please dont pretend that the story was honestly covered or try to portry the liberal press as victims

Star Bright
Salt Lake City, Ut

This is such a sick industry! I can't even look at the pix of the babies, how could a mother who is supposed to love & protect their child do this?
I know DN has refused to post this anytime I bring it up, but 0bama held up "The Alive ...Act" in Illinois, because the same thing was going on there. Babies were being put in a closet until they stopped crying and died.
I'm sure this happens with this industry all the time and it makes me sick.
I hope we can be forgiven, as a society, for this depravity.

airnaut
Everett, 00

3 things need to be proven to established a crime:

Method.
Motive.
Evidence.

In this case -
the conservatives tend to focus on the grisly "method",
but they completely igore the Motive.

What motivated the man?
Was is revenge? Anger? Hatred?....no.

The movtive was $
Money
Greed
Gain.

Take away the money incentive,
and this never would have happened.

Capitlaism [the Love of Money - the rooot of ALL evil] is Motive to Murder.
Conservatives routinuely ignore that fact.
The worship money.

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

"Think, for a moment, of how much attention Michael Vick received when he brutalized pit bulls."

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That is precisely the comparison I thought of when I first learned of this horrific example of the very routine practice of killing children for the crime of being "unwanted".

People die and are killed every day in our world. As gut-wrenchingly tragic as that fact is, the thing that makes it all exponentially worse is how few people are affected by it anymore!

It is true that, as in so many other cases, the "main stream" media has enacted their usual hush-hush policy for any story that casts a light on the gruesome practice of abortion in this case.

It is also true that this case is distinguished not by the fact that children are being killed but by the fact that they are being killed after rather than before their birth. That fact may have enormous implications to those willing and duplicitous enough to make the pointless distinction. But, for anyone sincerely concerned about the millions of children who are methodically, clinically and routinely murdered every year in abortion mills, it makes no meaningful difference at all.

Star Bright
Salt Lake City, Ut

Airnaut:

So you blame this on capitalism? Wow, I don't think I've ever heard that one before. You truly have come up with a totally new reason.

BTW, I guess you know that he limited his practice to black babies? He didn't want any of those white women to report him.

Did you also know that his clinic was NOT inspected for over 17 years? Why?
Because of the abortion industry! They did not want anyone to limit abortion in any way.

There are many things you can do in order to live a comfortable life, butchering babies is not my idea of one!

MapleDon
Springville, UT

What a sick society. There is no way for us to avoid God's judgment for willful murder of millions of babies.

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