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Published: Tuesday, May 21 2013 3:21 p.m. MDT

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InterestedObserver
Spanish Fork, UT

Does Summit Academy have a field at the school? Address anyone?

eagle
Provo, UT

It seems like the locale of some of these 2A games are in ludicrous locales. You could possibly find two good fields in Price at CEU and Carbon. Some of the teams could drive to St. George or Cedar as well as only Desert Hills is actually hosting a pod of games.

I really like the pod idea or concept and I wish it was used in 4A and 5A for the first two rounds. It would cut down travel quite a bit.

KG
South Jordan, UT

@ eagle

I agree... it makes no sense to have the teams all travel to the SL valley to play. Not sure if the UHSAA makes that decision, but it ought to be reconsidered.

utahpreprag
salt lake city, UT

It actually makes perfect sense. The reason they cant do it like 5a is bc the longest trip for a 5a school might be 30 mins. The shortest for a 2a school is 30 min if you are lucky. The longest is 8 or 9 hours. So if you have it st george, the southeastern schools like grand, san juan, monticello have a 6 to 7 hour bus ride. The northern schools like north and south summit you are looking at 5 to 6 hours. If you have in the central or small area not enough fields and now the southwest schools have to drive far. If you have it up here it makes it so all schools travel 3 to 4 hours max, and if you have multiple schools close you have access to fields. Not to mention fans traveling and having the hotels to house all these teams and fans. So thats why they do it the way they do. Another reason is bc alot of the big places dont want to host it at their place. There are a few things that factor into why and it makes sense and works out best.

mr. umpire
cedar, UT

1A,2A, and 3A usually rotate every year between SLC and St. George in most major sports. the travel usually equals out. 2a's are up north and 3a's are in st.george this year, last year it was the exact opposite.

Parry is a Farce
Layton, UT

What is the Region 1 and Region 4 tiebreakers?

utahpreprag
salt lake city, UT

State tourny time! Prob my favorite time of yr! A true double elimination tourny! Should be a great state tourny. There are about 6 teams that have a shot. Who does everyone have and why? Good Luck to all the schools to made it! Hope all the boys play well!

Parry is a Farce
Layton, UT

I guess tie breaker is not needed in Region 4. Congrats to Riverton on winning that tough region.

binghamalum
South Jordan, UT

Stoked fro the playoffs!

Not sure why but all year, Region 3 and Region 4, the two hands down best regions in 5A
both get to play each other first round of the playoffs!

So there basically giving REGION 1 and Region 2 a chance to maybe win a first round game!
EVERY SINGLE game vs Region 3 and 4 will be competitive!

Riverton hosting Copper Hills... Riverton is the favorite but still CH can beat anyone.
Bingham #2 in region 4, vs Cottonwood, who was #3 in region 3 (Bingham lost to Cottonwood)granted was in march. But still Im worried!
American Fork, who would of gone undefeated in Region 1 or region 2, will have its work cut out for them when they face ALTA at Alta!
Then PG, who just hapeen to be facing Bingham, Riverton, AF, will go into Jordan and contend the whole game, Wont be shocked if any of the away teams win there first round games!
Tville is going to be the only.... ONLY other team to worry about this year.
Region 1... Never has been, and never will be a factor. Region1, 0 baseball state titles in 5A!
17 YEARS N RUNNING

GSODirt
south jordan, utah

This year the upper bracket looks like Bingham will head to UVU undefeated. Alta or AF should be in the same boat with whoever wins that game 1 at Alta. Snyder will most likely throw for Alta, and Hardman has started every series opener all season although Ottesen is their ace. Should be a very good game. Riverton or Copper Hills should make it to UVU undefeated and so should Jordan. They've been playing much better as the year has progressed, and I think that coach Anderson announcing he won't be returning next year has added some intensity that wasn't there. Davis might cause a problem for upper or lower second round games depending on where they end up after today.

plyxply
SLC, UT

Region 2 should all be demoted to 4A, they are horrible in every sport, every year. Region 1 usually has one decent team per year in their region, sometimes a couple that can compete, and then it's the Salt Lake teams and Utah county teams winning every sport every year.
Alta v AF is a semi-final type of match-up, but to accommodate the pathetic Region 2 teams they play in the first round. UHSSA needs to make some changes, they are a joke.

eagle
Provo, UT

One time Provo had to drive to St. George to play a game (when the St. George schools were 4A) and the next day travel to Cache Valley to play Mountain Crest. 4A schools are still spread out from Maple Mountain to Sky View, not 30 minutes. The pod idea makes sense in a lot of ways. It makes winning your league actually very important. It cuts down on travel and the right venue all four games are done in one day cutting down on days missed in school etc. I really like the pod concept and it should be used by all classifications. If you looked at some of the 2A teams, they could have easily found closer venues to do their pods. Also, the UHSAA showed it could change venues on the dime with the St. George issue (and moving the 3A tournament up north). That means after looking at some of the teams in the 2A field, move the cites to locales where facilities are available. Again, Carbon and Cedar would have been much better in at least two situations.

eagle
Provo, UT

I think West could be dangerous. Their #1 is a legit thrower and Schwam is a good coach. 5A is actually pretty wide open this year, not the outstanding teams of last year but 6-8 teams that could win it. I think the Alta-AF winner might have the inside track. Copper Hills could pull that upset over Riverton. Big game in the SE Valley!

4A has Salem Hills and Murray as favorites. Maple Mountain has two great pitchers but might not have the overall team of the other teams. If MM can't win their first two games, they will be in trouble in going far. Always keep an eye on Timpanogos. Kim Nelson is arguably the best coach in the state and his teams peak at the right time. They won five in a row in Region 8 and seem to be hitting their stride.

I could see Provo scoring the possible upset over Woods Cross. The Bulldogs are young and one of their starting pitchers is a freshman but are well coached and playing loose. And can Sky View go into Maple Mountain again and win that game?

eagle
Provo, UT

I would give Mountain View a good shot at beating Logan in 4A. They played well at the end of the season, much better than record indicates.

binghamalum
South Jordan, UT

eagle

Did you really just saw west could be dangerous???
You know thats a joke right!
Even if there #1 is a legit thrower, they have to play a 18-5 davis team who was the #3 seed only because the last game of the region.
Then if you win that, I know your #2 aint that good, you have to face the #1 team in 5A Riverton 2nd round! Good luck with that, and Riverton played Bingham American Fork, and PG, all teams that would of won that HORRID region 2. (BESIDES TAYLORSVILLE)

I do only see,

eagle
Provo, UT

binghamalum:

Yes, I think West could be dangerous. But I am not involved in their program so "we" doesn't apply to me. I have seen their #1 and I think he's as good as they come in the state. Now saying they are dangerous means they are capable of the upset, certainly if their #1 is on the hill. Take them lightly at your own risk. Does this mean I think they will win it all? Certainly not. But I see them as a team that could go 3-2 or 4-2 in the tournament if things fell right. But that's if things fell right. There is no doubt that Region 3 and Region 4 are the class regions in 5A, that's not in dispute. Regrettably, they have matched up these regions in the first round. But there are some good teams outside of that region. I think T-Ville placed second in state last year and took AF to the brink. I know West beat them this year and I will always have respect for the T-Ville program. I know Bingham, Riverton, AF and PG are strong teams, all actually capable of winning in the first round.

joseywales
Park City, UT

Wait, what happened to 3A being played in St. George? I've been out of town 2 whole days and the world changed? Seriously, what happened?

mr. umpire
cedar, UT

dixie state is hosting a west regional so the 3A tournament got bumped to up north

joseywales
Park City, UT

Mmm... well, I guess that's good for the northern teams, but I still don't understand why they couldn't play on the St. George high schools fields. Dixie HS field is pretty nice! Oh well, Spanish Fork is nice too, and much closer.

GSODirt
south jordan, utah

First rounds are always very interesting with high expectations, and heartbreak all around. Looks like today will be much more of the same... only the road stops here for some! Good luck.

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