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Published: Tuesday, April 30 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Muslims make up 1% of the USA population.

Interesting that significantly higher than 1% of terrorist stacks in our country are carried out in the name of Allah.

Probably just coincidence.

I guessed on the day of the bombings it was Muslims. Many on these boards told me I would be wrong and that it was likely an NRA card carrying Christian.

Lucky guess by me I guess, only had a 1% chance of being right.

Nan BW
ELder, CO

There are "religious nuts" that just take an extreme view, without being violent about it, and there are "religious nuts" that believe their religious commitment justifies violence, such as the Boston Marathon bombing. There is a big difference.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

potato..patahto..whether your religion motivates you to kill others or just to believe that a few cells rhthymicly respoinding to one another in a six week old fetus is a functioning infant it's religion that informs and motivates you. There's nothing intrinsicly moral or scientific about either concept..just opinion.

SEY
Sandy, UT

Has no one heard of the term "blowback?"

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

It’s a distinction without a difference Jim. And it all starts with believing things without good evidence.

True, most people are able to compartmentalize their ideas enough to where this doesn’t create a problem but the folks who “go off the reservation” are often the ones who take their religion and its sacred books the most seriously. They actually read all the Bronze Age commands to barbarism without sugar coating or seeing it all as anachronistic.

The problem is not a few nut jobs. The problem is the source material of the monotheistic religions and until we wake up from our politically correct stupor and recognize that reality, these books will continue to derange the vulnerable and Balkanize the planet.

If you think I’m off base, consider the following – if the Middle East were to slide into chaos and culminate in a mushroom cloud over Jerusalem, after getting over the initial horror, what percentage of Christians would see a silver lining in this catastrophe? What percentage would see this as a prelude to the greatest thing that can happen… the return of Jesus?

This is why non-believers don’t see a big difference…

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

This "religion-is-the-culprit" spin by the press is quite pathetic: let's not call it Islamic extremism or terrorism — let's blame the religious nuts!

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If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck....

Meanwhile --
Self Radicalized Spilnter groups exist in ALL religions, even in the USA:
Jim Jones and the People's Temple, David Koresh and Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate, the FLDS to name just a few.

BTW -- Don't forget the other 9/11 terrorists who committed mass murder in the name of God --
Moutain Meadows Massacre - Sept. 11, 1857.

BTW - Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

We are growing tired of your daily anti-Muslim bigotry.
I could name 10 times as many terrorist acts committed in the U.S. by Christians.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

The second most horrendous terrorist act in American history was by a card-carrying NRA member, Tim McVeigh. The third was at Mountain Meadows. No Muslims in sight.

George
New York, NY

@Chris B

Seriously every thread Chris? Again the 22 terrorist that have attacked the US in the name of Islam account for less than .0004 percent of the Muslim population in the US which would mean if .004 percent is significant enough to condemn an entire religion then it would follow that the fact that the US is 1% of Muslim alone is significant enough to condemn all Americans.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Religion enables things that reason and conscience cannot.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah
potato..patahto..whether your religion motivates you to kill others or just to believe that a few cells rhthymicly respoinding to one another in a six week old fetus is a functioning infant it's religion that informs and motivates you. There's nothing intrinsicly moral or scientific about either concept..just opinion.

7:47 a.m. April 30, 2013

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Agreed.

BTW -- How many aboration clinics have been blown up, and Doctors have been shot for this very same REASON - religous extremeists, all done in the name of God - and not surprisingly, Christians in America....
isn't that right Chris B?

jsf
Centerville, UT

And how many children have been murdered in abortion clinics. There are two sides to Islam, religion, and political. Maybe we would be safe to say this was a terror act for the sake of an Islamic Political State.

Religion enables things that reason and conscience cannot. Kind of like the mass murders by Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Saddam Hussein, all based on the reason and conscience of non religious progressive individuals for the benefit of the state.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

jsf
Centerville, UT
And how many children have been murdered in abortion clinics. There are two sides to Islam, religion, and political. Maybe we would be safe to say this was a terror act for the sake of an Islamic Political State.

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Actually --
Aborations are illegal in Islamic States.
That is a huge underlying factor to the radical extremeists hatred toward the West.

BTW - this is not much different than radical Christian extremeists who commit acts of terror.

Maybe we would be safe to say those terror acts are for the sake of a Christian Political State as well.

The beauty is our Founding Fathers meant to keep that seperation between them.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

Jsf - “Kind of like the mass murders by Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Saddam Hussein…”

True, but none of these folks arose in societies where democracy, reason and secular humanism were deeply embedded in the social fabric. They were all highly dogmatic, crushed all dissent, and in many cases actively exploited the religions and ideologies of their societies.

What you don’t see is those folks rising to power in countries like ours, Canada, Western Europe & Japan (post WWII), Australia and New Zealand. All highly secular (ours being the exception) and democratic.

But what makes religion unique (and scary) is that it is taboo to criticize, even though some of the beliefs found in the world’s religions are not only incompatible with each other but ludicrous and anti-social.

Given our 21st century destructive technology, I think we’ll be lucky to survive our religious differences for another century or two.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

As I recall it,
Most of the Mobbings against the early Latter-Day Saints - and the blantant disregard for their Constitutional rights, and even murders -- were perpituated by Religous rivals.

Yes, religion IS to blame for many of the atrousities in the world.
And they are not unique to Islam, Chris B.

There is plenty of blame to go around.

George
New York, NY

@lost and Chris
And just like the conversation we had yesterday and the day before that and probably have again tomorrow the 25 Muslim Terrorist that have attacked our country represent less than .0004 percent of the Muslim population in this country. So if we are going to start to list the religions of people that represent such a small proportion of their religion when the kill someone we better start doing so with all murders or at less with mass killings. Can we just go back and start cutting and pasting past conversations at this point?

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