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Published: Monday, April 29 2013 3:55 p.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I look forward to when everyone is gay, so then we can stop hearing every time one of them ties their shoes and wants a pat on the back.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I hope he respects the privacy of his teammates if they wish to dress and bathe when he is not around.

There is no discrimination there.

Just as there is no discrimiation when a male coach of a female team does not enter when they are naked.

Simple biology.

amazondoc
USA, TN

I'm proud of Jason for having the courage to come out publicly and face the homophobes out there, who will still insist on spouting their idiocy at him. As a public figure, he'll face a correspondingly larger reaction. Good on him for stepping up and being true to himself.

And Chris -- he's been showering and changing with his teammates for more than a decade already. If they haven't caught his cooties yet, they're not likely to be infected now. Take some deep cleansing breaths and get over it.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Repubs, we are winning.

This country is becoming more and more tolerant and accepting. Just like womens sufferage, the civil rights movement, and now this. Those who wish to live in the past will be left in the past. The rest of us recognize the world is changing and we are progressing for equal rights for all.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

To amazondoc:

Why do you consider and label anyone who isn't gay a "homophobe"? It actually makes you sound like some sort of a phobe... perhaps a heterophobe.

Even though his teammates have been showering next to this guy for more than a decade with no problem, knowing his sexual preference is naturally now going to make some of them more uncomfortable doing so than before. There is such a thing as human nature that you just can't ignore in the name of liberalism and supposed political correctness.

There's a reason this athlete has waited so long to come out of the closet with his particular circumstances. And it's not always just about "homophobes"... as you call them. Whether you can relate to this or not, the actual reality is that most straight guys are more comfortable in a locker room being around other heterosexuals than being around a gay guy who may or may not be assessing them as a potential partner... whether that's being politically incorrect or not. Again, it's factual human nature. And right or wrong, human nature just doesn't change as quickly and easily as political leanings seem to.

the old switcharoo
mesa, AZ

Quote: "Why do you consider and label anyone who isn't gay a "homophobe"? It actually makes you sound like some sort of a phobe... perhaps a heterophobe."

Why do you have to completely misrepresent what someone says? If you don't get that then there is a serious reading comprehension problem. A truthaphobe?

As a religious matter, it's not a sin to admit you are gay. Of course, other people are not under any obligation to follow my religion but my religion requires me to love my neighbors even if they are practicing gay or otherwise shacked up. Nunya business....

amazondoc
USA, TN

@Tators --

"Why do you consider and label anyone who isn't gay a "homophobe"? It actually makes you sound like some sort of a phobe... perhaps a heterophobe."

What makes you think I'm gay?

Here's a hint: I'm not. And I'm not a self-hating straight person, either. ;-D

I've never said that "anyone who isn't gay is a homophobe". And I don't believe that's true. Nonetheless, there are lots of homophobes still out there.

"knowing his sexual preference is naturally now going to make some of them more uncomfortable doing so than before."

Those few guys should reflect back on the fact that he's been showering with them for more than a decade, and the world didn't come to an end.

"There's a reason this athlete has waited so long to come out of the closet with his particular circumstances."

Yup. Institutionalized homophobia.

"most straight guys are more comfortable in a locker room being around other heterosexuals than being around a gay guy..."

Back in the days of racial segregation, many white guys were more comfortable in a lockerroom around other white guys.

They got over it, too.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

amazondoc,

No they haven't caught his cooties.

And if I shower with women at the gym they wont catch my cooties.

But I shouldn't be showering with them right?

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Chris B
"I look forward to when everyone is gay, so then we can stop hearing every time one of them ties their shoes and wants a pat on the back."

It'll stop being a big deal when somebody comes out as gay when the day comes that coming out isn't met with scorn by those who think homosexuality is a sin. Then again, this newspaper puts "Mormon" next to anybody doing anything while being a member of the church (like survivor contestants and heisman hopefuls... well... until the heisman hopeful becomes a national joke of course... then the adjective disappears) so I guess there'd be some areas where being gay would still be noted.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Collins is NOT the first. John Amaechi played for the Utah Jazz and was very obviously and openly Gay.
This is not news.

baddog
Cedar Rapids, IA

I don't wish to offend anyone, but I do not care to read or hear about a person's sexual orientation. I was raised that everything you feel or think or do does not need to be made public knowledge.

If such announcements are meant to attract some kind of support, I suppose they will. Personally, I couldn't care less what the types of orientations people have. And, I suppose we'll soon have some NFL orientation announcements soon.

What category is next? Backgammon players?

George
New York, NY

@tators

You do of course realize we can all read amazondocs comment and clearly see they did not claim that anyone that is not gay is a "homophobe", right? Maybe you should not base your arguments on false premises that are so easily exposed.

VeraLouise
Sandy, UT

I think one of the good things about Jason coming out is that it gives another description of who a gay man can be or is. From all indications, he is a well-educated/spoken man, a good citizen, a basketball player good enough to make it into the NBA, a great team colleague, etc. etc......descriptions that could be of any other man, gay or straight. What matters most? Is someone with blue eyes better than someone with brown? A person's demeanor with his family and fellow humans matters more than who he loves. Good luck to Jason Collins. I hope his future teammates and fans will respect him for who he is and just let him play the game he loves in a professional manner.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Getting through the article without a yawn was not easy.

USAlover
Salt Lake City, UT

Seems like a really nice, intelligent guy. I think he's a really good "barrier breaker" in the same mold as Jackie Robinson. I wish him the very best and hope we all become more kind in world and speech to gay people.

Now please explain why he gets to shower with people he's sexually attracted to, yet I can't shower with the Boston Celtics cheerleaders after the game?

Why is that double standard okay?

Tators
Hyrum, UT

To "the old switcharoo":

Why are you pretending to be the only one who understands the intention of what another commentor writes? Amazondoc brought up the term homophobe in a reactionary way when no one else had.

Also, why bring up the issue of whether being gay is a sin or not? The article didn't, nor had others. Perhaps you're being a bit of a create-a-controversy.phobe? I'm not sure what your religion is, but perhaps you should read the part about judge not, that ye be not judged.

I never once even insinuated disliking any gay person. I simply stated the obvious fact that most heterosexual guys are more comfortable around others of the same sexual orientation while in a locker room setting... a simple fact. Is that really so hard to understand? If it is, you really don't understand much about human nature in your make-believe world.

@amazondoc:

I never once said or insinuated whether you are or aren't gay. You read that into it.
I also never stated what his teammates should or shouldn't do. Only how most guys in that setting would probably feel. No judgment intended.

trekker
Salt Lake, UT

Gay or straight keep your sex life to yourselves. I really don't care or want to know that stuff. This world is way over sexulized via tv, radio, movies etc

amazondoc
USA, TN

@baddog --

"I do not care to read or hear about a person's sexual orientation."

When somebody announces their marriage or talks about their girlfriend, they're announcing their orientation. Should they shut up?

Orientation isn't visually obvious in most cases. Like Jason Collins, you can't ID most gay people by looking at them. Therefore, it's easy for folks to think they don't know any gay people -- or that there aren't many gay people out in society. That's why it's important for gay public figures to let everyone know that gays ARE a part of everyday life.

@2 bits

"John Amaechi played for the Utah Jazz and was very obviously and openly Gay."

He came out after retirement. Check wikipedia.

@Chris --

"But I shouldn't be showering with them right?"

I'm often amused by the insecurities that seem prevalent in men. If you aren't attracted to another guy, why would you care if he finds you attractive?

I'm a straight woman. I wouldn't want to shower with a straight man, but I wouldn't care about a lesbian. I wouldn't be attracted to her, so why should I care?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

USAlover,
Why can't you shower with the Cheerleaders? I say IF the Boston cheerleaders draft you, or you try-out and make the cheerleading team... you should be able to dress with the team. I seriously doubt you could make the team.

You don't see NBA fans showering with the team do you? So why would you expect to be able to shower with the cheerleaders if you aren't part of the team?

Collins was drafted and made the team.

Danish American
Payson, UT

"¶Woe unto them that call aevil bgood, and good evil; that put cdarkness for dlight, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Isaiah pretty much nailed it. I don't really care if Jason is gay or if anyone is gay. That's there business. What I resent is having it pushed on us and implying that if we don't fully agree with the lifestyle we are homophobes or racist.

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