Why was this plant anywhere near residents and schools?
@higvI certainly don't claim that intentional murder is the
same as negligent homicide. One is murder in the first degree, the other is a
much lesser crime. In this case, however, the lesser crime killed more people.
I do think that those who oppose governmental regulation in these things have a
lot on their conscience when an insufficiently regulated industry kills people.
This fertilizer plant was directly across the street from two schools. I
don't know which was there first, but what idiot would permit a plant like
this to be built right across the street from two schools? Alternatively, what
idiot would allow a school to be built right across the street from a plant like
this? With some appropriate zoning, the plant could have been built 5 miles out
of town, and everyone would have been much safer. Yes, of course
fertilizer is crucial to feeding the world, I understand that. But too many
people seem to think that government and governmental regulations are always
part of the problem. We need smart, effective, governmental regulations to help
keep people safe. Your original comment made it seem as if you disagreed with
If a ship was known to sink, plane fall out of the sky, mine dangerous and cars
would people knowingly use them? The fertilizer plant does not compare to the
Boston Marathon murder. That person murdered someone. Industries for safety
and profit make sure things are safe. Industries like fertilizer plants
actually save many lives as there products help crops grow.Air
travel and mines save many lives. Try to prevent accidents. No one in industry
tries to cause harm and in fact save lives so the accident to murder is not
@higvTell your tales about competition and the free market making
things safer to those whose loved ones died in the explosion. There is a very
legitimate role for government to regulate unsafe activities. Go
back in history to the era before effective government regulation.Before seat belts, air bags, collapsible steering wheels.Before clean
water standardsBefore mine safety regulationsBefore required
airplane inspectionsBefore seismic safety standards were required on new
home, school, and business constructionI hope that you never find
yourself having to learn about the need for effective government regulation
through bitter experience.
We can't stop all accidents. Thing is government is there to keep order.
If there is salmonella or other dangerous things than people don't buy
things. It also hurts a fertilizer plant financially to have that catastrophe.
Competition and a free market makes things much safer.
Government regulation wasn't dreamed up in a vacuum. It was invented for a
reason.The trick is to strike the right balance.Yes the
government has its legitimate role to play and yes sometimes government is the
The builders of the Titanic assured the British government the would "act in
good faith" and have an appropriate number of life rafts on their ships.Sounds familiar. It's an old game that usually hurts people other
than those that make the decisions.When I see people in jail,
I'll say Texas is good at libertarianism. Freedom AND responsibility....
But instead Texas asks for federal money.
The "problem in Texas" is the exact "problem" we keep seeing in
Bangledash with buildings collasing or factories on fire.Companies
putting profits ahead of people.
As many lives can be lost through criminal negligence as through purposeful
murder. I'm sure that the Boston Marathon terrorist will either spend the
rest of his life in jail or will be executed. What will happen to the business
executives who made the decision not to report the many tons of ammonium nitrate
to the Department of Homeland Security? What will happen to those who allowed
this plant to be built right across the street from two schools and in a
residential neighborhood? Will any of these people ever see the inside of a
prison cell? I would like to see some prosecutions on charges of negligent
homicide at the very least.
"It's still too early to pinpoint a cause. But it's not too soon
to lament the lax regulatory framework in which the West Fertilizer Co. plant
reportedly operated. Public safety is government's top priority, and early
indications are that regulation of potentially lethal chemicals and their
proximity to residents was far from ideal." ~ DN editorial board=========What the?....The Deseret News is trying to
pin the blame on this "accident" on the Governement?Well, if
that don't beat all...Whatever happened to the COMPANY - and
personal responsibility - and keep BIG Government out of the private sector?!When is it a Company's responsibility to assure safety? NEVER?This is ridiculous.The COMPANY knew it wasn't safe.The Company knew it was breaking codes and the law.The Company knew it
was involved in a very VERY dangerous operation.The Compnay put PROFIT
ahead of all else, and the Deseret News [in it's conservative view of
Business can do NO wrong] tries to pin this tradgedy of lack of Government
The Libertarian response to this tragedy would be that the very last thing we
need to do is react emotionally and think that more government regulation is the
answer to fertlizer plant safety issues.As Rand Paul put it a few
years ago when a coal mining accident killed a number of miners, "people
just need to understand that sometimes accidents happen".Taking
this line of reasoning further, one could say the dead in Texas just paid the
price for true freedom, in this case keeping government regulations at bay.
They should be honored as true patriots in their sacrifice for the cause of
liberty.Most other people would say this thinking is just plain
nuts, that government should be the watchdog for safety regulations, and that
these people died in vain, the result of right wing ideology promoting a
rejection of common sense safety regulation.
The state of Texas has also requested emergency aid from the federal government
to pay for this mess. So they want all of us taxpayers to bail them out because
of their lack of regulations. Don't they at least require companies that
deal in hazardous products to purchase liability insurance?