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Published: Tuesday, April 23 2013 11:05 a.m. MDT

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UtahUte91
Sandy, UT

Kyle had a good run in 2008, but overall, any objective observer would have to admit that Bronco has outperformed Kyle overall, especially given the extra hurdles Bronco has been forced to overcome. It's doubtful that it would have taken Bronco three seasons to beat his first PAC 12 opponent with a winning record, assuming, of course, that Kyle finally has that breakthrough win in 2013.

32843
PROVO, UT

UteNationAlum

The WCC doesn't play football. For the record, the WCC plays baseball; both men's and women's basketball, cross country, golf, soccer, and tennis; and women's volleyball and women's rowing. But not football. So, if Witt were able to when any football game against a WCC opponent, that would really be something.

ekute
Layton, UT

@UtahUte91

I beg to differ. byu wouldn't of done any better than Utah their first 2 years in the Pac12. The hurdles that bronco has been forced to overcome are not any greater than Kyles' since joining the Pac12. Playing a WACish schedule doesn't compare to a major conference schedule. This is the year that we start to see Pac12 size and talent on the Ute squad. Go Utes.

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

"Why would you go after another quarterback when you have Heaps and Nelson? If your this kid why would you go there if you know what their situation is? Any bets this kid doesn't end up playing at the Quarterback position and plays somewhere else....."

"Got to love BYU, they've recruited tons of QB's, what about O-line, D-line, Linebacker, Safety etc????"

There you go Naval. From the article 'BYU Footbal: Another QB commits to Cougars' April 7,2011
Now if only you could back up half of what you post.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

This just proofs what we all know, bronco is just so much better and good. All the top wins and NFL players. and top ranked recruits just proofs how good he is.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Kyle can't even beat good teams. Bronco always beat the good teams he plays.

sls
Columbia, MO

I think it's funny that the U fans trumpet and praise their former Cougar who has ascended to the head coaching position, but BYU fans are still glad that Whittingham didn't come back to Provo. Bronco is better than Kyle.

let's roll
LEHI, UT

While I would enjoying seeing Utah win the South, the fact is it's only going to get harder to do so. The power in the PAC 12 has been in the North for the last few years (Oregon, Stanford) while the South has been in a downturn. USC has been in dissary but even in their drought, have been able to handle the U. UCLA has turned the corner by hiring Mora. And despite their coaching turnover, the Arizona schools haven't been awful and are likely to get better.

Utah will get better as well, I believe, but they'll have to just to repeat their previous records. Getting to the top of the South is going to take a "perfect storm"...1)the South continues it swoon, 2) recruiting a difference maker at quarterback (mock Ryan Leaf all you want, but he got WSU to the Rose Bowl); and avoiding the Titans of the North in their schedule (unfortunately, their rotation of not playing Stanford and Oregon won't be back for a number of years).

Coaching isn't on my list, Whit is good enought to get them there. This BYU fan wishes them the best of luck.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

@ekute

You're safe. There haven't been any offers for a trade.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Listen, I tried to give Bronco some props in an earlier comment, but coug fans on this thread are going overboard as usual.
Like I said, the respect comes from Bronco's peers acknowledging that recruiting to BYU is a challenge ... therefore consistently winning a lot of games, even against WAC caliber talent, is a notable accomplishment.
That said, and rankings aside, what Universities have come knocking on Bronco's door and what teams have come knocking on Kyle's? Therein lies the truth.

ekute
Layton, UT

@motorbike

Well said.

Go Utes.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Why is it so difficult for some Ute fans to accept national opinion from well respected individuals over their own crimson colored bias?

What a lightning rod. What a reaction.

I bet the local hardware store at the bottom of the hill is getting tired of the requests for more torches and pitchforks. The mob is organizing. With all of the drama on the hill how much more can the fans endure?

It's fun to watch. It really is.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Two seasons of < .500 conference football since your big debut speaks volumes as well losing to Colorado in 2011 and not winning enough games to play in the New Mexico Bowl.

What do you expect when your team is outranked by BYU? You think one game trumps a season? Think again.

I so enjoy your whining and spinning. So entertaining.

and Duckhunter...

Pulitzer Prize winning stuff today. Thank you.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

motorbike

"what Universities have come knocking on Bronco's door..."

UCLA, for one, and there have been others as well, although Bronco doesn't talk much about specific teams that have shown an interest in him.

The truth lies in national team rankings, FIVE for Bronco, only three for Kyle, and national coach rankings, #17 for Bronco, #36 for Kyle.

It's laughable how "unreliable" rankings are that don't fit the over-inflated opinions of the kids on the hill.

Bottom line, first two years of Independence/PAC 12 era

2011 #25/#26/#34 BYU(10-3) > unranked/#39 Utah(8-5)
2012 unranked/#26 BYU(8-5) > unranked/#61 Utah(5-7)

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

ekute

"I beg to differ. BYU wouldn't of done any better than Utah their first 2 years in the Pac12."

BYU would have won the PAC 12 South in their first season because, unlike the Kyle, Bronco wouldn't have blown a gift-wrapped division by losing to lowly 10-loss Colorado AT HOME!

sammyg
Springville, UT

"Their in lies the truth."

So this person thinks that Bronco was given some pity and somehow overweighted compensation to balance some weird Mormon recruiting challenge. What a bunch of bunk.

Find me one person (except a jealous troll) that would even consider such a thought. Only the warped mind of one desperately trying to find a talking point would even give it a passing thought.

Using that pathetic thought alone then Whit should have been ranked higher than Bronco.

Obviously other factors such as "wins, championships, recruiting, history at previous jobs, future potential and other factors." were weighted differently.

From a famous and favorite movie... "You can't handle the truth..."

ekute
Layton, UT

"You can't handle the truth..."

Kyle lead Utah to a BCS win and a #2 national ranking.
Kyle lead Utah to a major conference membership.
Kyle is 5 and 3 vs bronco, including 2 blowouts.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Duckhunter:

"According to utah 'fans' whittingham is supposed to walk on water? It doesn't seem that the experts see it that way."

You frantically and emotionally made that up. That's the 2nd strawman argument in as many days that I'd seen from you. Should we run a counter?

Utah fans do NOT think Whittingham is "supposed to walk on water". We think Whittingham is "supposed to walk all over mendenmidmajor". And thus far, he's .625 against him, with 2 wild blowout football clinics over his midmajorey little brother.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

SportsFan:

"BYU and Utah, two programs headed in opposite directions, BYU up, Utah down."

The Utes went 13-0, 10-3, and 10-3 in the MWC. That's hardly considered a "steady decline". About the only fact in your last frantic and emotional diatribe was that at 13-0, that WAS in fact Utah's "high water mark". But then at 13-0, that would have been ANY non-AQ school's high water mark.

The cougars went 10-3, 11-2, and 7-6, and THAT's was thanks to "Replaygate" that SHOULD have ended your season at 5-7. That's what you call "heading up"?

In the Pac-12, Utah played our first season in the big boy leagues, and at 8-5 was considered a success. Especially considering we had a new OC, and a backup D-II QB under center. In 2012 we did take a slight step backward.

Meanwhile, the Indy-WACers dropped back from playing an easier WAC schedule and went 10-3 and 8-5. Still "heading up"? You went 8-5 in the WAC. We did that in the Pac-12.

Edge: Utah.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

You need to up your aspirations. If the only thing you expect from Whit is to beat "that team down south," your membership in the vaunted PAC whatever will very soon lose it's luster.

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