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Published: Tuesday, April 23 2013 11:05 a.m. MDT

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Duckhunter
Highland, UT

Hmmm.....Mendenhall's ranking has stayed pretty consistent from what he has been ranked previously, a perenial top 20 coach. whittingham on the otherhand is plummeting down the rankings and although he has always been ranked below Bronco he is now double digits behind, in fact he is 19 spots behind Bronco which is more spots behind Bronco than Bronco is behind Nick Saban, 16 spots.

According to utah "fans" whittingham is supposed to walk on water? It doesn't seem that the experts see it that way.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Duckhunter

Your obsession is peaking of late, good to see.

As for your comment about Whittingham... "and although he has always been ranked below Bronco" ... just curious, is there an award I don't know of that's higher than national coach of the year?

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

Duckhunter,

I personally wouldn't have a ton of faith in a coach who kept a top 10 draft pick on the bench and only started him because of an injury. To each his own though.

"in fact he is 19 spots behind Bronco which is more spots behind Bronco than Bronco is behind Nick Saban, 16 spots."

That is a logical fallacy. You assume that each coach is an equal distance apart. If you honestly believe that Bronco is closer to Saban than he is to Whittingham you need help.

KG
South Jordan, UT

@ Duckhunter

While I support and enjoy both BYU and Utah, all that really matters is what happens on the field. Whit has won a Sugar Bowl and the last four straight against Bronco. Both are great coaches, and have done good things at their respective school.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Duckhunter

Adding to my previous comment ... let me clearly state that I think Bronco's a fine coach and very deserving of his high ranking. I'm quite certain those who are polled for this kind of coaching information are taking into account that Bronco has done well with what he's given. Meaning most around the country would assume there are limiting circumstances that come with the high religious standards and unique culture at BYU. Bronco clearly exceeds what most think would be possible in those circumstances, and quite frankly, I agree.

theDailyObserver
Salt Lake City, Utah

Bronco can get the higher coach ranking every spring, as long as Whittingham keeps getting the W over the cougars every fall.

Go Utes!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

I knew this would bug utah "fans" regardless of whther or not I commented on it, it is just more fun to comment and read the replies.

@motorbike

Considering this is an article about coaches rankings, and both coaches are ranked Bronco is just ranked A LOT higher, then I hardly see how this shows any sort of "obsession". I'm just commenting on the content of the article.

@kg

You are incorrect, kyle has not won "the last four straight". It is 3 straight. Also the guys making the rankings took whittingham's sugar bowl win into account when they compared the job done by each coach and obviously found whittingham lacking in comparison to Bronco or else they would have ranked him higher. They didn't so that shows they do not consider what whittingham has done to be as impressive as what Bronco has done.

I didn't make the rankings by the way, an interested but completely neutral 3rd party made the rankings. utah "fans" can suffer angst over it, and I'll be amused by that, but it simply is what it is.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

First, it's nice to see the Duck got your collective goats with some unjustified interpretation of the facts, in as much as the facts are known.

I myself would have said, "Wait a minute? Don't they know that NOTHING trumps number of players placed in the NFL???"

@ theDailyObserver

So can I assume that if BYU's lone loss in 20113 is to Utah, and somehow we go to a big boy bowl, and if utah is 1-11, but beats BYU for the 4th time in a row (not 5th, please note KG), you're okay with that? That would seem to be the extreme but logical conclusion of your daily observation.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

theDailyObserver

"Bronco can get the higher coach ranking every spring, as long as Whittingham keeps getting the W over the Cougars every fall."

Unfortunately for U, Whittingham "getting the W over the Cougars every fall" ended last season is a recent 3-game anomaly which will end in September.

In the meantime, a quick comparison of accomplishments proves that Bronco is clearly the better coach, as reflected in the annual coach rankings.

Overall Record
Bronco 74-29
Kyle 70-32

Top 25 Finishes
Bronco 5
Kyle 3

Top 15 Finishes
Bronco 3
Kyle 1

10+ win seasons
Bronco 5
Kyle 3

Undefeated Conference Championships
Bronco 2
Kyle 1

Bowl Games
Bronco 8
Kyle 7

Winning Seasons
Bronco 8
Kyle 7

Losing Seasons
Bronco 0
Kyle 1

Losses to 10+ loss teams
Bronco 0
Kyle 2

As Duckhunter observed, it's laughable to watch our friends on the hill throwing jealous temper tantrums trying to disproved the obvious, that Bronco is a better coach than Kyle.

raisedaute
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It makes me laugh to hear all the Cougar comments... especially after the many many posts I saw last year from Cougar fans during the Riley lovefest. Comments such as "Bronco has to go" Now to have something they can boast about they are touting this article from a publications along the line of Bleacherreports which we all know are written by hacks.

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

My question - If given the choice between the Kyle and Bronco who would the majority of the Y fans choose?

I think this season will be telling for the Cougars. Given their schedule - which will approach the U's last two season (but not be as difficult as Utah's this year) how will the Y do? If they can do as well this year as they have in the past with their lower degree of difficulty schedule, I will be one of the first to offer my compliments!

KG
South Jordan, UT

My bad... 3rd straight. You can understand my confusion, though... I wasn't sure how many times they won the same game.

Two great coaches, no doubt.

UteNationAlum
Cottonwood Heights, UT

If 3/4 of Whitt's schedule was made up of the WCC, he too would have 10 win seasons each year and be ranked as high as Bronco.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

If given a choice between

FIVE Top 25 finishes or three

THREE Top 15 finishes or one

TWO conference championships or one

EIGHT bowls or seven

EIGHT winning seasons or seven

Losing to TWO 10+ loss team or NONE

A 74-29 or a 70-32 overall record

Which record would the majority of Utah fans chooses?

Despite the lovefest created on the hill by Kyle's one perfect storm season, it's obvious which coach is better.

#17 Bronco > #36 Kyle

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

UteNationAlum

"If 3/4 of Whitt's schedule was made up of the WCC, he too would have 10 win seasons each year and be ranked as high as Bronco."

LOL at you delusional spin.

Four of Bronco's FIVE Top 25 finishes, all three of his Top 15 finishes, and FIVE of Bronco's 10+ win seasons were compiled while BOTH Bronco AND Kyle were BOTH competing in the MWC.

Despite the usual delusional spin from the hill, Top 25 finishes are a result of BOTH record and schedule.

The simple truth is, BYU is and has been a perennial Top 25 team since 1977; Utah has NEVER been a perennial Top 25 in any decade in their entire football history...

and never will be.

SportsFan
Orem, UT

BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall is ranked 17 on Sporting News' annual rankings of best college coaches.

125 coaches from Division I football programs were ranked based on wins, championships, recruiting, history at previous jobs, future potential and other factors.

Current Utah coach Kyle Whittingham is ranked 36 and former Utah State and current Wisconsin coach Gary Andersen is ranked 50. Matt Wells, who was hired to replace Andersen, is ranked 109.

The jealous spin coming from the hill is hilarious!

Unfortunately for U, Kyle and his football program have been in steady decline since Utah's high water mark in 2008. The only ones who can't see that are the kids on the hill.

BYU and Utah, two programs headed in opposite directions, BYU up, Utah down.

ekute
Layton, UT

There's not a Ute fan on the planet that would trade Kyle for bronco.

The majority of the tds fans would dump bronco at the drop of a hat if they thought they could get Kyle.

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

ekute

You're only fooling yourself. Kyle has proven that he can't coach with the big boys. His flash-in-the-pan success in 2008 is quickly fading and so will the lovefest from the kids on the hill with a few more losing seasons and no bowls.

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

ekute

"There's not a Ute fan on the planet that would trade Kyle for Bronco."

Of course not; why would U trade the 36th best coach for the 17th best coach?

The same delusion explains...

why U accept being unranked.

why U accept losing records.

why U accept playing your bowl games in September, rather than during the holidays.

why U accept losing to 10-loss teams.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

Kids on the hill living in denial, as usual.

The rest of the country recognizes what many BYU fans on this blog have been saying for a long time, that Bronco is a better coach than Kyle.

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