It burst the gold bubble.
The thing is, they are doing exactly what the "people" want......
nothing. There is an absolute mandate to not compromise, to not work together
(remember the hub but when the House Speaker actually went to the White House).
We don't want solutionsWe want "our" side
to win - at all cost. Its an all or nothing proposition.In a
country where no one is just one or another - this level of entrenched stupidity
can only result in what we are getting.If your side is unwilling to
give an inch - do you really think the other side is going to just role over?We are getting exactly what the people want - no matter how stupid it
"Does it take a genius to figure the cost of the two presidential
vacations?"Well, Star Bright, then do it.You have
been ranting about the vacation costs of Bush and Obama.Which one
spent more? I have my suspicions.Since YOU brought it up, lets see
your numbers. I am really tired of people throwing out garbage with
no substantiation.And, at the end of the day, what does it really
matter? Is it really big $$.What a bunch of nonsense.
Silo: Does it take a genius to figure the cost of the two presidential
vacations? If you, on the other hand, can give me chapter and verse about Bush
charging the government for his stay in Crawford let me know. I also don't
think Crawford is as far away as Aspen, Mexico, or Hawaii, but I guess I could
be wrong since you seem to think I am. I'm comparing the cost of the gas
for Air Force 1. Oh, almost forgot the trip to Spain with a huge entourage (I
know he stayed at home, we still paid for it). You still haven't shown me
any proof that Obama was working while he was at any of his vacations. I don't begrudge the Presidents taking vacations, but when he closes the
WH to children, and plans more vacations and parties it does make one wonder. BTW, I don't care about Bush Sr or Clinton's vacations, we
are comnparing the last two presidents.And please don't worry
about me redeaming myself!
Re: "Obamacare may not be the answers, but DOING NOTHING isnt [sic] either.
. . . What has the GOP done in the last 20 years to combat [the rise in?]
healthcare costs?"Whatever Republicans did, they certainly did
NOT intentionally raise costs 40-200%, as the Obama regime has done.Doing nothing would have been decidedly better for America and Americans than
the damage done by Democrat Obamacare.
StarBright - "Silo: Have you compared the cost of the two presidential
vacations?"Excellent question. Since you and others seem to be
wound up about those costs, post that data for the world to see. What's the total cost of Obama's trips? Source?What's the
total cost of Bush's trips? Or Bush Sr's? Or Clinton's?
Source?How much more work did Bush do while on vacation? Source?The reality is that the data doesn't exist and you don't have
a clue how the costs compare. Yet you and others feel compelled to get bent out
of shape about it and bring it up repeatedly as if it's doctrine.Contrary to your assertion, the only thing I defend is facts. Thus far, facts
have been lacking from your posts. Here's your chance to post
solid data to support your position and redeem yourself.We'll
Silo: Have you compared the cost of the two presidential vacations? Bush was
working, hosting foreign leaders. How many foreign leaders has 0bama hosted at
Martha's Vineyard, Hawaii, Florida, Aspen, etc.?It’s impossible
for me to understand the logic of a vacation where the president is playing
golf, living in an extravagant (tax payer) compound and the one where Bush is
living in his own home and working there. BTW, Camp David is a
presidential retreat! I know it doesn’t have celebrities, or Hollywood
stars, but Bush loved it as did other presidents. It was required so that the
Presidents could get out of Washington, but still be working. Your sarcasm
doesn’t cut it with me. “The fact that you not only show
outrage with Bush, but that you defend Obama in the process, speaks volumes
about the value of your posts.”
StarBright (part 2)Regarding your comment on Bush hosting Secret
Service on his ranch, a quick google search shows that to be a fabrication as
well"The encampment is a cluster of double-wide mobile homes,
adjacent to the president's 1,600-acre ranch, where a handful of traveling
White House staffers, Secret Service agents and communications staffers both
work and sleep during Bush's stays here. Most members of the
president's large entourage of personal, military, security and press aides
stay in hotels about 20 miles away..."Sounds like rented or
purchased mobile homes, and hotel rooms. Definitely not the
'rent-free' guest housing that you claimed.Feel free to
continue with your false outrage about Obama.
Star BrightThere's a lot of hyperbole about the frequency and
cost of Obama's vacations. It's easy to tell those people who
haven't bothered to actually research the numbers, because those people
certainly wouldn't be defending Bush if they had performed any research.Since you definitely didn't research it, I'll help you (and
the inevitable others) along with some FACTS.Bush took 77 trips to
his ranch during his term, totaling 490 days . Bush took over 100 trips to
Camp David during his term, totaling another 487 days.Bush vacationed to
Maine several times during his term.Bush took 1020 days of vacation in his
8 years, or almost 1/3 of his entire term as president.In fact, Bush
Jr, Bush Sr, and Reagan all took more vacation than Obama has...and silence from
the right is all that resulted.Rant all you want about the Crawford
ranch being a remote office, but the same is true for any president, regardless
of where they travel. The fact that you not only show outrage with Obama, but
that you defend Bush in the process, speaks volumes about the value of your
@ugottabkdnWe know how Social Security is supposed to work, but
Congress has been playing games with the trust fund. Previous surpluses have
been spent for other purposes, and replaced with IOU's from the government.
In the next few years as more people retire, the program will begin to run a
deficit. The government will need to pay back its IOU's, and where will the
money come from? Not from payroll deductions of current participants, but from
the Treasury. You and I will be taxed for it. My thick skull tells me so.This is why Social Security must be reformed, and is a necessary part of
any budget discussion.
joeblow,Hypocratic oath - First, do not harm.Obamacare
violates that mandate. you talk of cost increases - Obamacare does
NOTHING, ZILCH, NADA, el ZIPPO, NOTHING to control costs. NOTHING!!!Doing NOTHING IS better than Obamacare!!!!If someone is sick, do
you pour arsenic down their throat and hope it heals them? that's what
Obamacare is.And repubs DID offer alternatives; nancy and BO ignored
them. Quit buying into the MSNBC and DNC LIES that they did not.StarBright,don't confuse old man with the truth. He hates bush and
when he cannot defend BO, he trots out his old, lame, "it's bush's
fault!!"And truth be told, I'd RATHER BO did not work on
vacation - the less he does, the less damage he can do.
Listen up people, SS contributes not 1 cent to the deficit. It is unlawful to do
so. SS are earned benefits paid for by the contributions of you and I through
payroll deductions. We are loaning money and payments from SS to recipients are
nothing more than repayments for those "loans". Get it through your
thick skulls SS should not be part of any budget discussion. As for Medicare, if
your Congress had not passed laws forbidding drug negotiations and looked the
other way while business defraud it then Medicare would be off the table also.
When see these things and then how they deliberately are submarineing the Post
Office, is it really any surprise the economy has been mismanaged for 30 plus
One old man! GWB had a ranch which was considered another White House. He
entertained heads of state at his ranch. He had a place for the SS to stay on
his property and didn’’t charge them rent. So let’s be
truthful about Bush taking more vacations. He did NOT! And they did not cost
like vacations in Hawaii, Martha’s Vineyard etc.I hope someone can
break down the cost of the 0bama’s taking separate vacations one in Aspen
and one in Florida, flying to Martha’s on 2 planes just hours apart with
all the entourage, SS who must accompany both parties, and of course the
vacations for the daughters and 12 of their school mates without adult/family;
supervision, just the SS.So if Bush goes to his ranch, which doesn’t
cost us anything (except air) and he still conducts business and has heads of
state visit, you compare that to a golfing vacation in Hawaii at one of the most
"Why doesn't the media report the real cause...?"The
real cause of sequestration is that neither party has the courage to address
what really ails our budget. Three budget categories together make up over 60%
of our nation's spending: defense, Social Security, and health insurance
(Medicare/Medicaid/CHIP).There were some defense cuts, but
sequestration didn't touch Social Security or health insurance. These
entitlement programs are crying out for reform. They're the only programs
large enough to make a difference toward balancing the budget. Yet no one will
touch them, because they are afraid the other party will paint them as
heartless.We all saw what they did to Paul Ryan. He proposed reforms
that would put Medicare on a solid footing, and was accused of wanting to push
grandma off a cliff.To his credit, Obama has included mild
entitlement reforms in his recent budget. What does he get? Idiots from both
sides accusing him of targeting senior citizens.So the only cuts we
can achieve are taken disproportionately out of smaller budget categories.
"Your employer will cave in to federal pressure and rising coverage costs
resulting from Obamacare mandates, and will, in very short order -- as soon as
this year "Costs have been rising for years without Obamacare.
The gop is happy to do nothing. Maybe you have not noticed but
employers have already been dropping coverage for years now as costs have see
5-20% per year increases.Obamacare may not be the answers, but DOING
NOTHING isnt either.Tell me. What has the GOP done in the last 20
years to combat healthcare costs? Sad that they typically see no reason
to do ANYTHING.
Re: "Obamacare will affect me very little because I will continue to get my
health insurance through my employer."No, you won't.Your employer will cave in to federal pressure and rising coverage costs
resulting from Obamacare mandates, and will, in very short order -- as soon as
this year -- cancel your employer-provided insurance. Then, you'll be
stuck, like most Americans, with horribly expensive, substandard, and heavily
rationed Obamacare benefits.I'm sure you'll stretch hard
to find some way to blame it all on George Bush, but it'll really be
Obama's and Congressional Democrats' fault.
"Can we insist that congress and the president live by the same laws they
pass for us? So let's start with obamacare! "Hate to ruin
your rant starbright, but they DO.Obamacare rules are the same for
Congress.Obamacare will affect me very little because I will
continue to get my health insurance through my employer. By default, Congress
gets healthcare benefits from their employer, just like me and probably just
like you.No one is forcing you to enroll in Obamacare, just like
Congress.Care to detail out some of the other laws congress does not
have to follow?
Star Bright, you are also describing GWB in your comment. He actually spent far
more time vacationing than our current President.And Joe, are you
sure it's not the petty, partisan, nonsense that ARE the issues that truly
affect this country?Although some of this letter are a bit
questionable, the general idea is right on.
Re: "Why doesn't the media report the real cause, which is the
ineptitude of the president and Congress to fulfill their sworn duties?"Oh, it's much worse that that, Ralph. It's not ineptitude, at
all. Rather it's intentional infliction of needless pain for purely
political reasons.The contuing budget resolution Congress passed
included sufficient appropriations for Obama to avoid ALL effects of the
sequester legislation on real Americans. But the regime wants us to feel pain.
And they hope to blame that pain on Republicans.So the regime
decided, strictly for political reasons, to intentionally inflict needless pain
on real people to try and scare low-information voters into supporting deranged
liberal spending the Democrats are desperate to preserve, so they can buy the
votes they need in the upcoming Congressional elections.The Obama
regime is clearly not inept. Cold, calculating, unfeeling, unAmerican, brutally
cynical? Sure.But not inept.
Can we insist that congress and the president live by the same laws they pass
for us? So let's start with obamacare! The president, in particular, acts
as if we are subjects and not his employers - the parties, when everyone is
cutting back, the million dollar golf outings, the vacations, the travel on Air
Force 1. I have never seen a president who can't seem to stay
in Washington and do his job, but loves travelling, vacationing, golfing,
schmoozing with hollywood elites. But we are all sold a bill of goods that he
is one of us, a common man, a cool cat.
So Ralph, You want the media to report the "real cause"?
I think not. The real issues are Medicare, Social Security and Defense.You don't want to talk about the real cause. Instead,
you prefer to talk about "vacations, golf outings, paid holidays, pay
increases, outlandish perks"The problem Ralph, is the people who
would rather talk about petty, partisan, nonsense instead of issues that are
truly affecting this country.Now, can I PLEASE see that birth