Comments about ‘Calif. bill aimed at Scouts' gay ban passes hurdle’

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Published: Wednesday, April 10 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

This is about scout safety folks. I dont think a guy should be taking my young nieces on campouts with him.

similarly, a man who might be attracted to little boys shouldnt take them camping.

common sense people.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

Wow. Now a private non-profit organization is not allowed to have it's own rules. I guess all black colleges are going to have to start allowing other races in. All girl schools will need to allow boys to attend. Boy scouts and girls scouts will need to allow both genders to choose which organization to attend.

The funny thing is, gays are allowed to be in scouts. They're asked to be scouts and follow the scout rules if they want to participate. However, preaching and becoming a scout to shove their own personal views down all of the scouts throats isn't part of the program.

What we need to pass is getting rid of tax breaks for unions, movie makers and other tax breaks given to the elite in -$176.6 Billion california. Why can the state discriminate with the tax breaks for their wealthy?

I think the scouts should just become a for profit organization. Keep the gays from openly being gay in scouts. Then be a political force and fund candidates and delve into politics. Time to play the liberal game.

JimmyJackJohnJones
Jonestown, TX

It does indeed punish them for their beliefs. When those beliefs are bigoted and illegal it only seems reasonable that there might be consequences. The boy scouts aren't a religious organization, after all, despite what Utahns might think.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

In case California hasn't heard. The Supreme Court upheld the Boy Scouts of America in that they do not have to admit gays into their organization. They have a constitutional right to run their organziation as they see fit.

Then again, California is soo backwards they actually believe their $176 Billion of debt is wealth. They believe they can tax their way out of a spending problem (like a drunk can drink his way to sobriety).

One more reason California is nuts. They keep reelecting Nancy Pelosi. Actually, believing that "we need to pass the bills to find out what's in it" mentality.

As long as they get their welfare Californians are happy giving their wealth to movie stars and liberals. Maybe they need a few more earthquakes to wake them up.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

The entire concept of tolerance is that you must respect decisions by people who have different opinions than you: If an organization protected by the right to freedom of association and speech is punished because they don’t have politically correct views – then by all means also punish the HRC, NOW, PP, MOVEON – because I find their extremism deplorable (even though they hate and discriminate for all the fashionable reasons). Controlling thought via tax code is the ultimate Orwellian anti-speech cowardice.

If California does not have to be tolerant of diverse opinions – then why should anyone be held to a different standard? And why should I respect those who advocate tolerance – but are loathe to actually practice it?

My experience with gay fundamentalism is that they are even more rigid than those they claim to oppose - which is why - even though I am homosexual - I cringe at the label of "gay"

Spider Rico
Greeley, CO

There is no way this bill would pass Constitutional scrutiny

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Man...If I lived in California, I would be getting out as soon as possible.

in California it is now illegal for those with same sex attraction to even receive counseling or therapy that might help them become attracted to the opposite sex. There is no evidence that such therapy causes any harm whatsoever to anyone, but it's not politically correct. So, even if someone really wants it, that option is not available to him/her because it's not politically correct.

Now California is trying to punish private organizations if they don't have the politically correct point of view.

Based on the current trend, I don't know how much time is left for our society, but I would get out of California as fast as I could.

Bob A. Bohey
Marlborough, MA

The intent of the bill is not to force the Boy Scouts to admit gay people. The aim of the bill is to remove non-profit tax breaks the orginization receives due to their prejudicial policies. This appears to be in perfect alignment with what the founding fathers had in mind when this great and secular nation was created. People with religious beliefs ought to stand on their roof tops to applaud this measure as it is in line with protecting the religious freedoms they so enjoy in this great democratic secular republic.

Belching Cow
Sandy, UT

I wouldn't mind my boys spending the night in the woods with gay scouts and/or leaders. What could possibly go wrong?

Hunt
Spanish Fork, UT

"If California does not have to be tolerant of diverse opinions – then why should anyone be held to a different standard? And why should I respect those who advocate tolerance – but are loathe to actually practice it?"

Amen!

To seek to punish a specific organization for believing something different than you is the epitome of closed mindedness.

I grew up in California and, in my youth, loved the diverse and openminded nature the state represented. It is so sad to see the shell of a state it has become under the insanity of liberal, socialistic, and progressive leadership.

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

Looks like California is once again proving their bigotry towards Christians who embrace morality.

Economically how is California doing? hahaha. I guess all those tax increases don't work!

A Scientist
Provo, UT

Tax exempt status SHOULD be removed from organizations that cannot serve the entire tax-paying population.

Makes perfect sense to me.

DHan
Syracuse, UT

California needs more taxes?

the truth
Holladay, UT

@Bob A. Bohey
@A Scientist

I belive the point of PRIVATE organization is they are PRIVATE,

The point of givng tax exempt status to organzations is the fact they are NON-PROFIT.

This bill is hightly unconstitutional, and assault anyone that has a voice or conscience differnet than the government's, some loudly complaing minorty.

The founding fathers did not have this mind when founded this nation built on freedom of the people, and that government answers to the people not vice versa.

BTW we are not secular any more than we are non secular, but this nation is whatever The People decide it is,

but that the constitution would be wholly inadequate for any but a religious and moral people.

For any other you ccould never make enough laws to control and force everyone to be good or least how government defines 'good'.

Getting it Right
Sunnyvale, CA

@A Scientist

Are you saying that churches in the state where SSM is already legal be required to marry them or lose their tax exempt status?

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

This doesn't even make sense from the political point they're trying to make about the Boy Scouts and discrimination since it would also remove the status from the more inclusive Girl Scouts as well.

@Cats
"There is no evidence that such therapy causes any harm whatsoever to anyone"

There absolutely is. The suicide rate of people in those programs is sky high.

Billy Bob
Salt Lake City, UT

This is scary. If this passes, it could help pave the way for a bill that would remove the tax exempt status of a religious organization for the same reason, which would be yet another very bad road for America to go down. Of course, those that know the constitution know that this would be unconstitutional. But since when do liberals care about the constitution? To them it is an obstacle in their way, and they have already shown that they are not adverse to trampling all over it to get the horrible policies of theirs through. These are scary times we live in, when the very principles this nation was founded on are mocked and the moral values that made it great are scorned by many.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

And they shall call good evil and evil good.

Now they want to punish people for being good.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The BSA can run a private for profit organization any way they want.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

Conservatives love stories like this. It gives them another excuse to whine and play the victim.

If you want to discriminate, don't expect tax breaks. What's so hard about that to understand?

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