@SME, who said "Somewhat glossed over in this article is the fact that this
is a leftist thing. It is conservative leaders who are reviled by the left when
they pass on. The reverse reaction is rare."I don't pretend
to know much about British culture, but in our own country, I find your comment
laughably dishonest.I saw the commentary when Ted Kennedy died. The
vehemence from the right-wing was repugnant.And, quite frankly, if
President Obama died tomorrow, or Carter, or either Bill or Hillary, I'm
quite confident the comment boards would light up in joy and fanfare like there
was no tomorrow from the Tea Party crowd. Quite frankly, I think you know that
too, which makes me more than comfortable in my earlier use of the word
"dishonest".Yes, it happened with Nixon (who, I feel, earned
whatever scorn he got), and Reagan (who did not), as well. You're more than
welcome to point it out. However, two wrongs will never equal a right. If
you're going to call someone out on it, make your calling-out "fair and
Re: Happy Valley HereticUh, the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with
the military and its weapons. The Bill of Rights was a list of protections of
the people from government control.By you comment I could conclude
that you think we don't need a military? Because Clinton got rid of the
Reagan military years ago. And, words often don't win wars,
where guns and bombs do. However, I will concede that trying words is the best
I like to think about how we got into World War II. We sat there waiting for
the diplomacy of Japan even as of December 7, 1941 but we did have all our ships
in Pearl Harbor, just in case.I also remember how the flat lands of
Poland got changed in a day when the German tanks and military rolled into
Poland.I also remember how 9/11 happened and how our national
defense got a kick with their pants down. Basically all in Congress, House and
Senate, agreed with the scenario afterwards to get our national pride and
defense back up.You just don't leave your borders, land and air
open to anyone who wants to come in. We have made some mistakes in the past but
a strong defense is what has made our nation strong. Cyberspace is where we get
attacked now, militarily, monetarily, economically, and when an
individual's personal information and bank account gets hacked, very
emotional for that individual and family. You cannot let your
defense down. Americans and Europeans spend billions for sports, vacations,
entertainment and other activities. Remember, without freedoms, you don't
get those events in your life, even on the Internet.
m.g. scott said:I'm at least glad you acknowledge that Reagans big
military spending had something to do with the end of Communism. But, how did
"Back in the USSR" have any negative influence on the Soviets?I'll just leave it at an Idea or words are far more powerful then
weapons, hence the 1st Amendment before the second.Now we're
paying to get rid of that "Military build up"
Re: Happy Valley Heretic"Yes I'll choose to remember the
actual people not the "fantasy" world leaders." Unquote.Boy I can't wait to see you post when you have to deal with the real
Obama and not the fantasy he has been played up to be in the mainstream press.
I'm at least glad you acknowledge that Reagans big military
spending had something to do with the end of Communism. But, how did "Back
in the USSR" have any negative influence on the Soviets?
Ding dong, Yeah another false deity of the conservatives is in good company and
warm.Supporting secret wars, selling drugs to Americans, ignoring
international embargos, supplying arms, destroying unions supporting apartheid,
running up hugh deficits (that didn't matter) or privatizing everything
enriching the 1 percent. Yeah real heros, ask someone from England instead of
listening to am radio shout her and rons praises. Rock music and endless
military spending, not Ronnies words brought down the Soviets.Yes
I'll choose to remember the actual people not the "fantasy" world
leaders.Listen to Pink Floyd's the Final Cut to get a little
insight into her popularity.
These people that find fault now with PM Thatcher know they have a positive
audience with President Obama who would not be working with her for the good of
the world. They are at opposite ends of the spectrum so it is only natural for
these negative comments from people that have been silent for years. They know our President has gone around the world bad mouthing our heritage
while standing on foreign soil. PM Thatcher was not afraid to speak
out in her special calling to bring Britain into a repair mode and in the
process tear down the Communism which threatened Europe and not just Britain.
She established a good process for future generations in the world. She stood
up against bullies and that had to be a tough thing to do for her. She and
President Reagan did form a good bond for President Reagan to say "Mr.
Gorbachev, Tear down that wall!!!"
The Brits do have a history of being disrespectful and or ungreatful of great
people. One only need remember that after leading Great Britain in WW11, they
voted out Winston Churchill's party and took him out of the PM. However, I
think that the haters of Thatcher are probably a small minority that gets a lot
attention from the Thatcher hating liberal press there.
A rather sad commentary on a significant segment of the British people. Thatcher
was one of the greatest leaders to ever serve in Britain and nearly
single-handedly lead their economy out of a bad recession when it was most
needed, similarly to what Reagan did for the USA. And now some of her
nation's people are too blinded by liberal rhetoric to even acknowledge
her. Sad. Very sad.These same people don't seem to realize that
what the world currently needs more than anything else politically related is
another good dose of exactly what Reagan and Thatcher gave to us. It's
needed now more than ever. And the sooner the better.
Of course communists hate Thatcher. She pretty much destroyed them.
Somewhat glossed over in this article is the fact that this is a leftist thing.
It is conservative leaders who are reviled by the left when they pass on. The
reverse reaction is rare. The left also reveres its leaders much more, perhaps
because they are generally anti-religion and their leaders are substitute Gods?
No one else embalms their heros for continued worship.
All of us are scorned, sometime in life?Being infested with
liberals,--good people will continually be scorned.Hmm? Romney
didn't pay taxes?