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Published: Sunday, April 7 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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HaHaHaHa
Othello, WA

My heart bleeds....not really. First of all, 4.5 million is just a claimed theory, possibly backed up by some version of agenda science. 4.5 million is a pretty small factor in a world of 6 to 7 Billion, and millions of deaths each year from natural causes and diseases. The same number of people probably die in work related commuting incidents all around the world each year. Maybe we should outlaw work? Another version of "science" could probably tell you that we could save 4.5 million lives each year by switching from one color of house paint to another color, or by passing gas 50 fewer times each year. What a joke!
The only thing you need to focus on in this letter is the term "climate justice". It's all about an agenda, that is anti capitalism and freedom or private property!

Allisdair
Thornbury, Vic

This week I saw the "Chasing Ice" documentary. For those who have not seen it make it a priority. A picture is worth a 1,000 words. The pictures are fantastic and the change to glaciers is remarkable.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Yes and I heard that man made global climate change is causing birth defects and HIV infections. Where did I get that information? The same place Ryan got his, made it all up!

The Skeptical Chymist
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I am 100% convinced that climate change is real, and is caused by the injection of CO2 into the atmosphere by human activities. The thinning of the Arctic ice cap and the melting of Greenland's glaciers are absolutely demonstrable. These are data that must be taken at face value.

However, I'm rather skeptical of any claims that climate change is already killing 4.5 million people per year. How can it be determined that any one death is caused by climate change? Such unsupported claims undermine all discussion on this topic.

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

You can't count all the people that die from civil unrest and from every natural disaster as casualties of global warming.

This letter is a complete farce.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Agree with the sentiments. I also agree that climate change should be addressed with reasonable legislation. But too often, people pull these numbers out of the sky. 4.5 million people?

I will call bunk on that numbers.

Just like I did when gun advocates claim that that "guns are used to prevent 1.5 to 2.5 million crimes per year".

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

lets all go burn a chemical bonfire in our yard and show them that the smoke is just taken care of by some corporation.

tarbaby5
Herriman, UT

Utter silliness. Scientists are now grappling with the "fact" that the earth has been COOLING over the last 20 years, NOT warming.

How can this be?

Well, first you can change your mantra from "global warming" to "climate change," after which any change in the climate now fits in your theory.

Next, like Ryan here, you claim millions of deaths in third-world countries, with absolutely no hard science possible to prove it or disprove it.

Continue with loud voice and inane logic, whipping all bleeding-heart liberals into a frenzy, and filling young brains in schools full of this mush.

Last, sit back and watch our freedoms slide away, as liberals and mush-brained students use their "enlightened" perspective to enact laws that erode the bedrock principles of our nation's success.

There's a reason we are the most powerful, wonderful, successful country in the history of the earth. I'd prefer a MUCH stronger connection between our activities and their effect on our climate before we put our foundational freedoms at risk.

one old man
Ogden, UT

While I fully agree that there are climate changes occurring -- probably due to human activity -- this letter seems a bit far fetched. But it may not be very far into the future before it will become true.

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

The headline blares, "Climate change kills 4.5 million people per year", yet the letter contains not one shred of source data or any other corroborating evidence. Just the same irrational blather that I see much too much of surrounding this topic.

The latest trend in the Global Warming/Change/etc. fad seems to be toward the skeptical side of the argument. One asking for a little more well-reasoned rather than half-baked rhetoric. I am decidedly on that side and find the author of this letter as one more bit of evidence explaining the trend.

the old switcharoo
mesa, AZ

There's plenty of science that tells us the impacts of global warming. Truly only the people affected know the impact of loosing their children and lives. Are you not capable of even a google search about the matter? Shameful how many posters dismissed the letter and never even had the decency to look it up themselves. 1 to 4.5 million. When would YOU care? Only if it's your family?

The study, by scientists at LSHTM and the World Health Organization, concludes that children in developing countries are most vulnerable to the impact of global warming.

Most deaths would be in developing nations in Africa, Latin America and Southeast Asia, says Haines. These regions would be worst hit by the spread of malnutrition, diarrhoea and malaria as a result of warmer temperatures, droughts and floods.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Okay, I am convinced on climate change. But I have seen nothing that substantiates a claim like this.

There is a political war being waged against the science. Making outrageous claims does no good. It only serves to feed the opposition's frenzy.

Allisdair
Thornbury, Vic

Well with a little Google effort I found the basis of the statement at Ecosanity.org The 4.5 million includes deaths from malnutrition cause by drought and heat related crop failure (Mid West 2012) etc.

I read recently that 350 died from heat exhaustion on one 113 degree day in Victoria, Australia. In the developed World we record deaths from heat exhaustion but I doubt anyone bothers at Fox looks up deaths on Africa. or Asia.

Lets stop the Left Right rubbish and take our collective heads out of the sand and start looking at what has happened in recent history. The changes in the climate are happening faster on a world wide basis than before. But the shock jocks will never tell you that.

merich39
Salt Lake City, UT

The letter writer makes a claim that climate change kills 4.5 million a year and then provides absolutely zero substantiation for that claim. It's hard to accept that number has any validity.

But it also really doesn't matter. If science and medicine could absolutely prove that climate change was directly responsible for 4,514,372 deaths world-wide last year, what difference would it make to us here in the U.S.? We love life. Just ask any of us. But we value corporate profits even more. If we were faced with indisputable facts that climate change were causing death and the only remedy to the problem were to increase costs to corporations, I have little doubt that, as a society, we would find some way to rationalize the need minimize costs to corporations.

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

Yes, breathing is hazardous to everyones health. We all die because of it.

Air, land and Water Pollution is something to worry about. We all breath out C02, which makes great green plants. Methane can be regulated by feeding cows oregano and finding something that eats termites.

Your claims are not worth the paper printed on. Lets focus on the clean air, land and water. We both can agree on that one.

And if that isn't enough, we need to get better seeing and stopping large space rocks from landing in Russia, and other places.

airnaut
Everett, 00

It's like ultra-Conservatives seem to be lacking any and all "common sense".
All-or-Nothing, Extremeism.

From Pollution to Gay raights.
Aboration to Gun access to criminals and the insane.

There is no miccle ground, no leeway, no compromise, no balance.

Just flaming All-or-Nothingism.

This is why the will neve win anymore elcetions.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

This letter and airnaut represent hysteria and intolerance at their most laughable: it doesnt really help the cause

Climate change exists - because it has always existed - even before man
Man can mess his nest - but a good volcano can too - and mindless extremist hysteria proves absolutely nothing (other than the desperation of the hysterical)

I am supportive of reasonable efforts to clean the environment - but not zealotry based greenwash

By the way: according to the world health organization; 2.5 million die each year from alcohol - where is the concern?

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

The ironic thing is that if we followed what the politicians want to do, we will kill more people to food shortages or increased costs of food and medications.

However, according to NASA, with a modest increase in global temperatures we can feed millions of more people. The problem isn't the climate change, but politics that prevent the poor from being fed and getting the care they need.

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