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Published: Sunday, April 7 2013 5:30 p.m. MDT

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JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Nice deal. As are the other elements of the Senate's bipartisan Gang of Eight plan "

Better headline. Does either party want real immigration reform?

What is the chance that any senate "gang of 8" deal will pass in the house?

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

While the immigration path is long and difficult, and could be streamlined, the real reform the US needs is border protection reform, and illegal immigration enforcement reform.

But Obama has shown he is not big on enforcement of the laws, despite the fact that the president is under oath to just that.

Alfred
Pheonix, AZ

"Are Democrats serious about border enforcement?"

Democrats are interested in only one thing... more democrat constituents to win more elections. They don't care where they come from. Illegal immigrant sources are just fine with them.

The problem is not only the borders... which will never be secured. It's impossible to stop all immigration across our borders. We have thousands of miles of border not only is our south but north, east, and west.

A significant part of the problem is visas. Immigrants come on visas but don't go home. Estimates are that 43 percent of illegals come in that fashion. What is the committee planning to do about that? Nothing that I can see.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Immigration is suchhhhhh a big deal to the right! I mean, just look at what the repubs did in 2000-2008 to fix immigration... They were just ripe with solutions! If only this spoiled country hadn't elected Obama! I'm sure the repubs would have fixed immigration had mcCain won....

Darn that Obama!!!

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

"Illegal aliens are really undocumented Democrats", Jay Leno. Its funny because it is true!

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . Obama seems to want an issue, not a solution . . . ."

Few can turn a phrase like Dr. Krauthammer!

Add the fact that it perfectly captures, and succinctly encapsulates the Obama regime's approach, not just to this issue, but to politics in general, and it's a clear demonstration of political genius of the first order.

The good doctor's insights were likely gained from his firsthand experience with psychopathological patients -- the closest analogue to Washington politicians -- but whatever the source of his marvelous insight, psychiatry's loss is political commentary's obvious gain.

RichardB
Murray, UT

We don't need guest-workers, they cost the taxpayers and subsidized business with cheap labor. We are pushing people out of jobs and out of the will to work with these massive programs to flood the labor market. We already let in 3 million a year on work visas. The H-1B visa is the most abused visa. It allows business to bring in cheap foreign labor and replace older workers that generally make higher wages. It sells out the American worker and their family. A person can go into debt hundreds of thousands of dollars for education, only to have your career cut short by American business greed.

Seven amnesties and no enforcement. I don't believe for a minute that visas or E-verify will be enforced. Prove to America for three years that laws will be enforced. At least half of the 11 million need to be deported. Border enforcement means nothing if we don't enforce the laws against those who make it across the border.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I think the businessman democrats pretty much want the same as the businessman republicans. Only, since the election votes for democrats come mainly from working people and election votes for republicans come from business people, the democrats might have a more favorable view of workers plight.

The problem of immigration that harms the American worker is the low wages and the lack of jobs. If these two problems could be solved, there might not be an “immigration problem”.

If we could change the rules for Capitalism to give a more fair distribution of the benefits of the American society to all our citizens, there might not be a problem with immigration. Although, the better life for Americans might be an even greater attraction for people in foreign lands.

Unless we are willing to solve our workers problems, there will never be a satisfactory solution to immigration, discrimination and many other problems for America.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Leaders in BOTH political parties, if they pass "immigration reform" (read:amnesty) will prove that they couldn't care less about the average American worker.

The BIGGEST reason average wages haven't increased (adjusted for inflation)is the flood of illegal foreign workers who dilute the labor market.

Small business organizations, through their various lobbyists are paying OUR elected representatives to guarantee them a cheap supply of labor.

joseywales
Park City, UT

We don't need guestworkers! We have millions on Welfare right now, let's just turn that into Workfare. Put the majority of the "able bodied" welfare recipients into a workfare program and make them earn their keep. It's win/win, they will get the help they need and feel better about working like the rest of us do! I agree that most Americans won't do the work that immigrants do, however, if the only way to get your welfare and food stamps were to perform work for it, don't you think that maybe, just maybe, these people would suddenly get off the couch and do some labor? It's such a common sense solution that government overlooks it.

RichardB
Murray, UT

American workers will do the work illegal workers do, at a fair price and legal benefits. A construction worker use to make enough to support their family and give them a good middle class life.

Very few are getting that kind of pay anymore. Just like farm workers were pushed out of their work, hospitality, housekeeping, construction and other job fields are being destroyed as occupations in this country.

No one needs to show compassion towards their neighbor than the chamber of commerce across the country. The AFL-CIO doesn't represent American workers anymore. They like the amnesty with 11 million people to recruit for dues.

Liberal Today
Murray, UT

I have a weird idea. How 'bout the pres work on the budget and the economy before the next fiscal crisis, instead of avoiding the big issue, by chasing immigration and guns?

Unless... maybe if we put a whole bunch of American citizens to work building the fence, and enforcing the immigration laws, we would have not only those people working and thus that many fewer on unemployment and welfare, but the jobs being illegally taken by illegal immigrants would also open up to the citizens who are now unemployed.

Then he could do both, but mostly it would help the struggling economy by creating more jobs.

Utes Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

@RichardB

"The H-1B visa is the most abused visa. It allows business to bring in cheap foreign labor and replace older workers that generally make higher wages."

Exactly. I work in tech, and am above 40 years old. Already the H-1B is and has been a major threat to my career. Now, if this plan goes through to dramatically increase the H-1B visa caps, I seriously will consider another career and will probably be forced to change careers due to my employer hiring foreign workers on the visa and eventually laying me off. The tech industry has a LONG history of documented cases of this type of abuse, all the while shouting SHORTAGE! SHORTAGE! of tech workers. Which is ironic, since the politicians and corporate executives tell us that there is a shortage of tech workers, and hence the increases in visa caps are needed they say. But it will most likely push me and tens of thousands of US tech workers out of their careers, proving that no shortage exists.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

Far more important than border enforcement is INTERIOR enforcement. That includes such things as the DMV checking all vehicle registration applicants for residency status and arresting those in this country illegally on the spot and permanently confiscating their vehicles. Same thing at welfare and other government offices. Also anyone pulled over with an expired visa. It means heavy fines, jail and prison times, and compulsory deportation for anyone caught in the country illegally.

Illegal aliens take advantage of this country because they know it is a pushover. Let them know America no longer is being a pushover and most will self-deport. For those who are deported by force, no problem; the cost of deportation is a small fraction of what the presence of illegal aliens costs society each year in perpetuity.

The "gang of eight" says America will practice interior enforcement after amnesty (or so-called "provisional status") but not before? Makes no sense at all. If they would do it later, then of course they should be doing it now. They have no intention of enforcing the law, ever, of course.

And since when does the AFL-CIO, Chamber of Commerce, and "Gang of Eight" run America?

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