Considering that a low estimate of non-essential, non-defense spending by the
Department of Defense is $6 billion dollars, I believe Mrs. Nelson's
outrage, while admirable, is misplaced. Let's rein that in before we worry
about the pennies in the IRS's couch.
I don’t think refunds for the reasons you mention are given. However, you
can avoid future undesirable taxes by giving up your voluntary citizenship in
America. If you choose to keep your membership, you will be
expected to share in the costs of the government which may include the support
for things you don’t like. Don’t ever stop expressing
you opinion about the bad things in life, although the politicians don’t
like it, it supports Democracy.
I think it is a poorly done and silly training video for its employees. Like
the one character said in the move Stripes, "Lighten up Francis!"
Conservatives need to lighten up a little bit, do a bit of research. Again, it
wasn't the best use of tax dollars per se, and if I worked in the IRS, it
would be somewhat silly to have to sit through something like this. But that
was its purpose but to to take it beyond that is ludicrous. I think the two
unfunded wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were bigger wastes of money (and
tragically took too lives of many of our great servicemen and servicewomen as
$60,000? Lol. This outta make your head spin--yet where is the outrage, let
alone the news coverage on this:"Though Defense has long been
notorious for waste, recent government reports suggest the Pentagon's money
management woes have reached astronomical proportions. A study by the Defense
Department's inspector general found that the Pentagon couldn't
properly account for more than a trillion dollars in monies spent. A GAO report
found Defense inventory systems so lax that the U.S.Army lost track of 56
airplanes, 32 tanks, and 36 Javelin missile command launch-units.And
before the Iraq war, when military leaders were scrambling to find enough
chemical and biological warfare suits to protect U.S. troops, the department was
caught selling these suits as surplus on the Internet "for pennies on the
dollar," a GAO official said."(Sfgate 2003)"Serious financial management problems at the Department of Defense (DOD)
that made its financial statements unauditable."(GAO 2012)
Look how the liberals mock when its not THEIR money that is being spent. They
don't seem to realize that forcing people to pay anything to for
non-essentials is wrong. Oh well, they have listened long and well to
Obama's rant on his mythical "rich guy". As far as they're
concerned, they can just sit on their couch and demand that somebody else feed
the lions. Little do they know (or seem to care) that the "ringmaster"
is looking for more "fodder" to feed his lions, and that they are next
in line.They rant about the cost of war, which is an authorized
expenditure for Congress, but they think nothing of demanding that others pay
for their private welfare via government transfer of wealth. Boy, do they have
things backwards. If they were as frugal with government spending as they are
with their own charitable giving, the federal government would have to make do
with a 2% tax rate.
@Mike Richards"Look how the liberals mock when its not THEIR
money that is being spent"I looked at my W-2 and the amount I
had taken out for federal income taxes is larger than the amount I got back in a
refund so I'm not a 47%er. You're just assuming which is silly because
deeply conservative Mississippi is the state with the highest percentage of
people in the state among the 47%. Considering only half of 47%ers even know
they're in that category (based on polling) I'd suggest you
conservatives compare your federal income taxes (only the federal income tax,
not any of the others like state or payroll) to your tax refunds. I bet some of
you are in the 47% and don't even realize it.
"countless Internal Revenue Service employees"Countless Yep Carolyn, them thar revenuers are thicker than fleas on a dargs
Mike Richards -- I'm a retired old man, but I still managed to pay a higher
effective tax than Mitt Romney.When your "conservative"
friends in Congress stop pulling pork dollars in for the own districts while
screaming that we have to cut spending, then I might take you folks seriously.
Until then . . . . . . . . . . .
Let's see...Sixty thousand dollars for a lame training
video,vs.Twelve billion dollars (at least) in stacks of
$100 bills on shrink-wrapped pallets that were airlifted to Iraq in 2005-2007 by
the Pentagon and for which they can provide absolutely no record of how it was
used, to whom it was given, or why. The money is simply "unaccounted
for." It just disappeared into the two trillion dollar black hole known as
the the War in Iraq.As an American taxpayer, my personal
"share" of the lame IRS training video is six one-hundredths of one
cent.But my "share" of the missing pallets of C-notes is
$120, and my "share" of the whole misbegotten war in Iraq is $20,000.Guess which waste of money makes more sense to complain about?
Re:MikerichardsThe broad brush you use to characterize liberals
undermines any credibility you might aspire to, and any sense of Christ-like
values you espouse. Liberal here, Paid $50k in federal income
taxes last year, including the refund I got.
Even after listening to this partisan blather for years, it still astounds me
that everything can be reduced to liberal vs. conservative. Who to blame has
become the most significant question discussed on EVERY topic. I just checked
"blame" is not a word found in any of the founding documents of the
republic er...democracy or whichever the "good" guys say it is. What a
I say give her her money back!$60,000 / 350,000,000 Americans =
1/5000th of one penny.BTW - I'm perfect fine with her
getting that 1/5000th of one penny back, just as soon as I get my $10,500
back from the Bush/Cheney wars.
Don't forget the four nuclear warhead fuses we mistakenly sent to
"but they think nothing of demanding that others pay for their private
welfare via government transfer of wealth. "Mr Richards,In the past, you have described a time when you had to determine which
bills to pay as you had 7 kids (is that right)I am guessing that
there were many years when your Federal income tax bill was pretty close to
zero.A 47% er perhaps? I actually come across many many
people who decry the 47%, but either dont know, or ignore the fact that they are
one of them.
I'm sure they don't need training videos, especially not funny or fun
ones. It probably cost an extra 5k to make it funny. No funny videos!If we could get a little patriotism out of conservatives when it comes time to
pay for wars it would probably knock the Earth off it's rotation.
There's trillions of dollars missing at the DOD. Next.
JoeBlowFar East USA, SCA 47% er perhaps? I
actually come across many many people who decry the 47%, but either dont know,
or ignore the fact that they are one of them.==========It's retiring soon.Ask him if he plans to practice what he
preachers, and NOT file for the evil, dirty Socialist Social Security and
Medicare.orif he's paid in, and and now claims
"entitiled" to it.Taker, 47% AND a class-A Hypocrite.