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Published: Friday, March 29 2013 11:00 a.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

This relationship has helped establish BYU as a WAC contendender year in and year out. Best independent team in Utah, no doubt.

Cool Cat Cosmo
Payson, UT

They "contendend" just fine, which is more than the PAC-12 floor-mate Utes can say. How's the Ute postseason going again? ...oh, wait, sorry.

morganh
Orem, Utah

Hey Chris,

Here is a list of some of the other schools that use Nike. Oregon, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, TCU etc... How many of these schools are in BCS conferences?

Duckhunted
provo, UT

Just another unbiased reporting by the DN.. They should rename the paper byudn!!

Irrelevant
Provo, UT

@Duckhunted

"Just another unbiased reporting by the DN.. They should rename the paper byudn!!"

yet again we have another ute fan that can't understand why the Dnews favors BYU so much. lets set the record straight....... The church owns both, therefore BYU gets more attention. by the way you don't have to read a BYU article, the SLtrib is interesting too, sometimes.

I really love the obsession Chris has with the Y. I'm beginning the sense some jealousy.

Austin Coug
Pflugerville, TX

@Duckhundted

Your ignorance is showing. This is a series. If you want the USU and Utah articles, go back a few days.

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

Chris,
The WAC diatribe coming from you and Naval is not only old, but outdated. BYU plays 0 WAC schools in 2013. You and your buddies need to do a little research before you continue with the same old, and tired rhetoric.

Duckhunted
provo, UT

Please quote actual dollars that each program gets...not that the nike swoosh draws recruits!!
CHIRP CHIRP!!

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Cougars1:

"The WAC diatribe coming from you and Naval is not only old, but outdated. BYU plays 0 WAC schools in 2013."

No, the "WAC" comments are most certainly NOT outdated. They're very current. Y fans like to talk about their "brand", but that brand wasn't built playing the kind of schedule you'll be facing in the Fall. It was built on beating up the weakest teams in the WAC. That hasn't changed. You left the MWC, and aligned yourselves with the WAC. You hauled in WAC-ish recruits. Perhaps it is YOU who needs to do a little research. My facts are straight, and irrefutable.

Try playing a season with a "real" schedule...

...and THEN talk.

Until then, you're WAC-ish.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Duckhunted

"Please quote actual dollars that each program gets...not that the nike swoosh draws recruits!!"

Why are the kids on the hill are so obsessed with $$$, yet care so little about on-field success?

After almost two full years in the conference, Utah's men's team still haven't finished in the upper half of the conference in ANY sport:

7-11 in football
8-28 in basketball

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btw chrissy,

BYU won NINETEEN WAC championships
Utah only won TWO

It's laughable that you would disparage BYU "contending" for a WAC championship year in and year out, when the Utes haven't been a year in and year out contender for any conference championship for for more than 60 years.

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

Naval,
Seems I struck a nerve. How frantic and emotional of you. BYU built it's brand as a member of both the WAC and the MWC. Please read the comment by phoenix. It speaks volumes. Irony- you making fun of BYU for having "WAC" recruits. How did Utah do when they were in the WAC. That's right, 2 WAC championships. If BYU has WAC recruits, based on your argument, then Utah would still have MWC recruits as they have only played 2 years in the PAC. That does explain why they have yet to beat a PAC team with a winning record.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Naval Vet

For all of BYU's "WACishness", BYU has still been more successful than the Utes and their "PACishness".

2011 #25/#26/#34 BYU(10-3) > unranked/#39 Utah(8-5)
2012 unranked/#26 BYU(8-5) bowl winner > unranked/#61 Utah(5-7) no bowl

Unlike the Utes, BYU wasn't denied a bowl berth last season because the Cougars LOST to the only WAC team they faced.

BYU's 2012 schedule - FIVE Top 25 teams:
- #3/#4 Notre Dame, #16/#17 Utah St, #18/#14 Boise St, #20/#19 Oregon St, #21/#21 San Jose St

Utah's 2012 schedule - TWO Top 25 teams:
- #16/#17 Utah St, #20/#19 Oregon St

It's the best teams on your schedule that really determine how difficult your schedule is.

Team Y playing two teams ranked #1 and #119 would have an average schedule of #60
Team U playing two teams ranked #59 and #61 would have an average schedule of #60

Which team has the more difficult schedule?

Answer that question truthfully and you'll understand why BYU had a much more difficult schedule in 2012, than Utah.

For team not playing a "real" schedule - see mirror!

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

The bumble B buzzes over to BYU once again. There must be something about the beauty of BYU that attracts his buzzing bumbling little beaty eyes. Didn't Mr. B and his comrades lose to USU last season? I guess that must have been a oversight on his part. Surely he wouldn't just throw yet another silly one of his claims on the table without backing it with some data would he?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Cougars1:

"How did Utah do when they were in the WAC."

We sucked! But then we joined the MWC, got better recruits, and then got better. In fact, we won 2 BCS bowls while there, and finished in the Top-5 twice. The cougars went the other way, never again finishing in the Top-10 like your other BCS busting brethren TCU and Boise St. Then again, that must partially explain why the cougars went BACK that way, when winning in the MWC was no longer an option for them (they were only options for TCU and BSU).

"If BYU has WAC recruits, based on your argument, then Utah would still have MWC recruits as they have only played 2 years in the PAC."

Yep. We've even said as much. However, Utah's Pac-12 recruits are now about the same number as our MWC recruits. That's a step UP from where we were. Your recruits were a step DOWN.

Pac-12 Football recruits > MWC Football recruits > WAC/Indy-WAC Football recruits

Irrelevant
Provo, UT

@Duckhunted

Please read the article then you'll see that the Y is a private funded university therefore they aren't required to disclose any information they don't want to.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

BSU is a very small school, even though they have come to fame, they are not overflowing with cash and don't care much weight. I'm sure they are also very happy with what they get from Nike.
I think BYU's contract is probably closer to ASU's contract, ASU has a decent fan base, are in in the Pac-12,could be more could be less.
In conclusion I have no Idea what I am talking about.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

NV

What brand are you building as a member of a REAL conference? A BCS conference? A relevant conference?

That's right. BYU is the Band of Brothers, and the PAC whatever Utes is the Brand of ...

You fill in the blank. First word that comes to mind is "losers."

Did you note that some of your precious loot depends on actually playing in a bowl? Any bowl would be a good start, BCS would be great. Hmmmmm. And post-season basketball.

It's a shame, really. I honestly believe Ur football and basketball teams will turn it around. But some "fans" will just continue to be turned around.

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

I have to agree with my little sister, BYU is the BEST Independent team in Utah, no doubt; the Cougars were also the 2nd BEST team in football, regardless of category, in 2012.

Per Sagarin
#19 Utah State(11-2)
#26 BYU(8-5)
#61 Utah(5-7)
#179 Weber St(2-9)

At least we're still good enough to beat the Wildcats in football; not so much in basketball, but at least we're trying harder with coach k.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

phoenix:

"BYU has still been more successful than the Utes and their 'PACishness'."

Yes, we know. Ute fans are not arguing that the Indy-WACers have been a lot more successful vs. NM State, Idaho, Idaho St, and Weber St, than we have been vs. USC, Washington, or Arizona St. But if you're interested in comparing our two programs, ask yourself this...

"Who had been more successful vs. the other?" In other words, which of our two teams is 2-0 vs. the other, and which is 0-2? The 2-0 team is unquestionaably the better team. All you have to do is just figure out who was the 2-0 team.

I already know who it is. Do you need any help with that?

"Unlike the Utes, BYU wasn't denied a bowl berth last season because the Cougars LOST to the only WAC team they faced."

USU wasn't the only WAC team we faced. We faced (and beat) another one on Sept. 15th.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

Yet phoenix and the other wishful fans, after 40 plus years, BYU is still on the outside looking in. No official power conference invite.
And their legacy is sooooooooo great, that Nike does not consider them a tier 1 school.

Ouch!!!

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