tabuno,"Republicans forced the Democratic Party" HAHAHAHAHAHATOO FUNNY!!please stop, my sides are
aching!dems had control of both houses; repubs could not and did not
force the dems to do ANYTHING!No, this disastrous lie is a BO and
DEM creation, repubs had nothing to do with despite their attempts to enter the
@ Xscribe. I challenged you to name one positive thing Obama has done and you
couldn't! All you could come up with is accuse me of semantics. Obama was
elected by people who think they have the right to receive what they didn't
work for and Obamacare is proving to be a very expensive mess, nothing at all
that we were told it was going to be! Our country is being destroyed and you
The written responses here are based on an incomplete news article that
doesn't tell the whole story. Premiums in general are likely to go down
for women and older people while they are likely to go up for men and younger
people. As with any insurance, those younger people will eventually see a
return as they grow older with more medical problems (like an aging car). The
problem appears to be the conservative insistence on private for-profit health
care providers that Republicans forced the Democratic Party to pass up a
universal health care model based on health care as the primary goal and that
would have controlled costs much like public service commissions regulate public
utilities. Unfortunately, health is not a public right, its a commercial
commodity. Power for one's home is more important they one's health
Mountanman: I can name quite a few that I think are postive - but you
wouldn't - which is why I and many others voted for him again. But as
usual, you just want to argue semantics and not even address my post.Patriot: Yes, estimate. That's the word the article used. And by the
way, it was an F-150:) It's nice, too. Got the Ecoboost. Very fast!
Noodlekaboodle,No, BO did not say the total premium would go down, the
employer's costs would go down; BO said the FAMILY'S cost would
decline by $2500. BO LIED!And regardless whether the premiums would
have gone up without Obamacare, or the increase is not due to Obamacare, BO LIED
and said they would go down.Any way you look at it, BO LIED!!to reiterate:BO said costs per family would go down. Costs
have NOT gone down. BO LIED!
@PatriotI am very very very familiar with your insurance plan. First, your
not looking at the whole picture, because your employer pays a majority of your
premium(it should show on your paycheck, if not your HR can give you the info on
how much your company pays)so the $2000 figure would be on that amount, not your
individual premium. Second, on two of the 3 plans in Utah where premiums went up
the benefits on the plan increased. You also were allowed to select a dental
plan where they previously were tied to your medical plan. If you picked a low
cost medical plan and high option dental your premiums would go up, because you
received better dental coverage. Even the plans that went up the most are only
costing you $20-$40 more per month, a smaller increase than most years. Also,
lets be honest, your insurance went up every year, before you had ever hear of
Obamacare. Finally DMBA hasn't implemented the majority of Obamacare
provisions yet, their plans are in grandfathered status. So your premiums going
up really isn't due to Obamacare.
The knuckleheads doing this report must have been the same group putting out all
the Climate Change statistics.
Re: xscribeFrom what I can tell this is a reprint of an AP article.
Not exactly the National Review. I guess it is just as "Priceless" when
media sources that frequently favor the Democrats have to be questioned too.
Good lesson for us all. Question everything.
re:xscribeAn estimate? Might be negative against your president?
Let's see here ...Barack 'estimated' Obamacare costing 800
billion and now it is already 2.8 trillion and climbing. That is TRIPLE!!! So
let's see here - you go to your wife and tell her you want to buy a new
truck - she asks how much will it cost and you tell her ..oh about 18 grand. You
pull up in the front yard in your shiny new Ford F-250 and the price tag is 45
grand!!!! You tell her "oops I was a little off dear". Sorry. No big
deal right?? I doubt you will find it so "hilarious" when
you see the cost of your next operation at the hospital and the fact that your
health care provider has CUT his percentage covered drastically due to
@ Xscribe. Can you name ONE positive thing that Obama has accomplished? If you
can, that would be priceless! Don't forget Benghazi, fast and furious,
white house intelligent leaks and his lies about tax increases on ONLY the rich!
Please do so quickly because the rest of us can really use a good laugh!
This cannot be true. Mr. Obama campaigned on a $2500 reduction in family health
care costs and also that he would protect the middle class. It seems common in
history to tell the biggest lie to cover the biggest untruth. The Patient
Protection and Affordable Health Care Act is a good example of label that tries
to hide the opposite.
How do you people accusing Obama of "Lying" look at yourselves in the
mirror? You all act as if President Obama is the only Politician who ever
Miss-Calculated or Lied. We could all fire back about lies Republicans have
told over the years. I just can't understand how you folks can be so bold
about persecuting this man? People who live in Glass Houses I guess?By the way, did any of you read this article? The majority of Americans are
covered by employee health care programs.I know it's the same 4
or 5 people that are always making the same comments over and over again on
these articles but for Pete Sakes give it a rest already. The energy you put in
these comments could be used in a much better fashion. Don't you agree?I'm just sayin....
I find it absolutely hilarious that when something comes out - an estimate no
less - that might be negative against the president, you get posters who take it
as absolute fact. Yet, when something comes out that puts the president in a
favorable light, then there are flaws or it is somehow the leftist media.
well at least Barack promised all of us that our health care premiums would go
down by an average of $2000 per year due to Obamacare. Interesting that I
noticed my DMBA premiums have actually gone UP this past year ....and in fact
everyone I speak to says the same...their premiums have increased ALOT?? Hmmmm -
now how could this be? Oh that's right I forgot we just have to give Barack
a little more time and then the premiums will come down...right?? So I guess at
the end of 2013 my premiums will be 2000 less ?? Well it must be those darn
Republicans again causing Obamacare to increase our premiums... but the GOP had
nothing to do with Obamacare? Ok I'm confused. It appears that Barack lied
but is that possible? I mean someone so divine could lie? MSNBC must know the
answer let's ask them or perhaps Jay Carney? Something I just remembered
Barack telling us - Obamacare would only cost 800 billion and now the cost is
2.8 trillion. Ok he missed it by a few trillion - no big deal - we will just
raise taxes on the evil rich some more.
My fellow Americans, at least the MAJORITY of us, we got what we asked/voted
for. I hope the ones who voted for this revenge-charged fella will suffer the
most! By the way, the new title/name of his "affordable care" is
Anyone with a brain knew Obamcare was a lie when it was first snuck through
congress in the middle of the night.
Dear Chris B, did he speak out of the left or ride side of his mouth when he
made that statement. Probably the left side and people did not catch it.
"But if you have an employer plan, like most workers and their families,
odds are you don't have much to worry about."Of course,
I'm sure all of you overlooked this part of the article...
Health insurance claims will increase when you increase the amount of people
with health insurance by a couple dozen million, particularly when those are the
sicker people on average. That's just common sense. If you have a better
idea on how to deal with it then let Utah make its own plan. If it can cover as
many people and be no more expensive than Obamacare then they can get a waiver
and use the Obamacare money to support their own system.
No no no. It isn't so. Obama said it would not cost us more, but less.
Can't be. Obama said so. I just can't believe it. Obama has been so
honest. (Yes, major sarcasam here)Re: Mark BYeah,
that's the ticket, blame Romney. Don't forget Bush.
Let's see. Wasn't there a governor in New England who reformed their
healthcare system? What was his name? Flit? Chit? Rahm..something? Perhaps
before doing the daily Obama rip, we should ask who pays these guys with the new
report. I mean, are they connected to guys who own coal mines or employ lots of
poorly-paid employees or make high powered rifles?
I thought Obamacare was supposed to reduce costs. Are you telling me Obama
But barack told us obamacare would decrease health insurance costs for all
middle class Americans?Barack? What happened?
Yet another reason we should have elected Mitt Romney! Now all of us are going
to pay much more for our healthcare even though we were promised otherwise.
Obamacare is a pack of lies!