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Published: Monday, March 25 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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MapleDon
Springville, UT

Universal background checks would have had no impact on the Sandy Hook shooting.

You have a sick society that is entertained by violence. This is a much more complex issue that is only being capitalized by the gun control crowd.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

If you have more than one assault weapon and find them amusing, there should be a reality check.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Re Irony Guy

A Well Regulated Person Or Militia Behaves Responsibly.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "pragmatistferlife" let me get this straight. You are saying that the limits to magazine size are not limits. What sense does that make?

To "andyjaggy" and how would you feel if 100 people lost their life because of the regulations you support to save 1 life? That is the situation that will occur with the draconian regulations and gun laws that will come.

To "John C. C." yes, and every day 6 kids die in car accidents and another 694 are injured. Using your logic, we should further regulate cars and not allow children into vehicles or into areas where vehicles are present. Who is to blame for the car accidents? Do the cars cause them?

Why focus on the small number of gun deaths, when putting kids into cars is more dangerous?

I-am-I
South Jordan, UT

I don't know how we expect to implement and enforce these "universal background checks." They sound nice on paper and it only makes sense since if you buy guns from a retailer you already have to have a background check, but the thing that people don't seem to understand is that the government has no way, I mean NO WAY, of ever tracking all the private gun sales and insisting on background checks. So While it sounds awesome on paper it does nothing of substance because it will be really easy to just hand a man cash and get a gun. Making laws does not equate to making the country safer. You have to be able to reasonably implement the laws. Besides crime statistics (FBI website) show we really shouldn't even be talking about this in congress. The possibility of being shot is pretty low. Congress is wasting our time and money based on a handful of unfortunate events instead of focusing on a much more important issue of terrible federal fiscal policies.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Thak you. I have already called Sen. Lee and told him that I did not support universal background checks either. Thanks anyway. I do not want the likes of Obama and Bloomberg in my life or home.

1."A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government."

HS Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

Call Senator Lee? Don Quiozte will have more luck taking down that windmill.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Demanding more gun laws because criminals can get guns is like having yourself neutered because you think your neighbors have too many kids.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Your right mountainman... in fact, under age drinking and smoking goes on.... so all you are doing by having ID laws is preventing law abiding citizens from being able to buy these products.... right?

Good grief... who made this logic up? If criminals are just going to do it anyway, heck, lets abandon all hope of making it harder on them.

And no one has yet explained to me how having the ID checked of a gun buyer is going to prevent a single, law abiding person, from buying a legal weapon. All they are trying to do is reduce the number of venues where a criminal can buy a weapon without challenge. Why in the world is this so controversial?

You have to register to go to school. You register each year you pay your taxes. If you want to leave the country, you have to register to get a passport. You want to make hazardous products, you have to register. Your house, your car... all registered. No one is going to prevent you from going to school, take your income, prevent you from leaving the country, or take gun, if you haven't done anything wrong.

airnaut
Everett, 00

John C. C.
Payson, UT
Every year about 20 children in the U.S., ages 5 to 9, die as victims of accidental shootings.

John C.C. Where on earth did you make up that statistic?

The CDC reports, and I quote, "In 2007 there were 3067 gun deaths in the 0 through 19 age group."

20 vs. 3,000 on average is off by a factor of 155.

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Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Speaking of poisonings....
There are over 450 deaths per year here in Utah due to medications.
Even more deaths than automobiles.

And that's with very tightly contolled regulations.

And while we are on the subject of poison, and the 2nd amendment....
Do you fully support my Constitutional right to keep and bear chemical weapons?

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Wise up !!! There are ALREADY background checks for guns... many cities such as Chicago just WON'T enforce them. This new bill is nothing more than a backdoor attempt at registration of guns bent on doing one thing.... taking your guns away!!! This entire facade by liberals as well as this nonsense by Nanny Bloomberg of NY about "mayors against illegal guns" is nothing more and nothing less than a a desperate attempt at gun registration. Once they register em - they can and WILL take and or tax em!!! Wise up AMERICA because the lib's want your guns and safety is the LAST thing they really care about otherwise they would enforce the laws already on the books! What about laws aimed at giving parents that have kids with mental illness a fighting chance of getting help??? NAH - that makes too much sense!

Remember - the bad guys will STILL get their guns because they don't go through back ground checks!!! If you want to have a gun to protect yourself or family ya better wake up or lose your guns forever. Communism doesn't allow guns!

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

"Patriot", can you back up your claim that cities, such as Chicago, refuse to do background checks?

"Once they register em - they can and WILL take and or tax em!!! "

So you are saying they will take your guns and tax them? Strange. How would they do that? Take 'em and tax 'em.

"they would enforce the laws already on the books!"

Which gun laws are not being enforced by "liberals"?

"What about laws aimed at giving parents that have kids with mental illness a fighting chance of getting help???"

Wow, those three question marks really make your point. Anyway, so you mean something like Universal Health Care with a mental health provision?

"Communism doesn't allow guns!"

Thank goodness we aren't a Communist country.

Okay carry on with your rant.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:mark

Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC), a data-gathering and research organization run by Syracuse University found that on enforcement of federal gun laws Chicago is dead LAST in the enforcement of the federal gun laws. They are #90 out of 90.

The far leftist Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo said that following regarding enforcement of gun laws in the state “Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option."

If you paid attention to the Sandyhook killings the killer was mentally ill and his mother reached out many times over the years for help for her son ... with little if any success. Now Mark, what could have happened had that mother had some recourse to get her son help ... when he was younger? How many other mentally ill killers have we seen this past 24 months that could have been helped and stopped from killing. Do ya think this is a worth while investment Mark ...instead of banning guns?

Yes Mark - most socialist and ALL Communist countries ban guns - of course you don't see the connection here in the US do you.

Anyway here are the facts to my 'rant'.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

Yeah, "patriot", you said Chicago did not do background checks. "There are ALREADY background checks for guns... many cities such as Chicago just WON'T enforce them." You want to provide any proof for that? Like I asked.

Not sure what the quote from Cuomo has to do with anything I said.

"Now Mark, what could have happened had that mother had some recourse to get her son help ... when he was younger?"

Ah. . . You mean something like Universal Health Care with a mental health provision? Like I said.

"most socialist and ALL Communist countries ban guns."

Ah. . . Like I already said, thank goodness we aren't a Communist, or Socialist, country.

So did you want to actually respond to anything I said? Or just say the exact same stuff again and think that addresses my challenges?

Oh well.

"Why focus on the small number of gun deaths, when putting kids into cars is more dangerous?"

RedShirt, are you really trying to say we can't look at other things just because cars are dangerous?

John C. C.
Payson, UT

airnaut, Thanks for pointing out our differences. Your number was for ages 0 to 19 and included both intentional and unintentional discharge of a firearm. I intend only to focus on accidental deaths, and then only on the deaths of those from ages 5 to 9. I want to point out that we experience tragedies more troubling than Sandy Hook every year. I say "more troubling," because it's pretty hard to blame the accidental shooters when they are also victims.

We may say, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." But whom do we blame for accidents?

I also wonder why these accidental deaths have dropped significantly following the implementation or our gun control laws, but are starting to creep up again after loosening the laws. We are responsible for our laws.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

J Thompson. A person can be punished for using a firearm to committ a crime. True. That must be a lot of comfort to crime victims. Knowing that the person who killed their family member or close friend will be prosecuted and incarcerated at taxpayer expense. I am not anti-gun. I am against criminals having easy access to firearms. I am tired of hearing that criminals will always find ways to obtain firearms. If we can stop one in ten felons from obtaining a gun by requiring universal background checks I support it. Given a choice I would rather prevent a crime than punish someone after the crimne has been committed.

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