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Published: Friday, March 22 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Bebyebe
UUU, UT

If politicians aren't behaving as they should then we have only ourselves to blame. Politicians are like children. They only think as far as their next gratification event. The election.

Write your congressman. Let him know you don't like his behavior and that you're watching.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

The internet has made it very easy to only read or watch "news" that is heavily and intentionally tilted to support an extreme political position.

Evidence-based reality has got to matter more to us than emotionally satisfying but evidence-poor ideologies, and we've got to be willing to let go of ideologies that don't survive objective, evidence-based scrutiny.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

The GOP is reaching out? They're changing? Could have fooled me. I haven't seen any change. Same words, same hate, same ridiculous logic, just coming from different talking heads now.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

The real problem the Republican party has isn't their "extremist principles". Its that the majority of Americans have abandoned their principles. They have learned its easier to vote for Democrats that work for a living. It is totally unsustainable and destructive but for now, it wins elections!

one old man
Ogden, UT

An EXCELLENT letter, followed by three excellent comments (so far) and one that's off the wall. Let's edit that one to make it more accurate.

The real problem the Republican party has isn't just their "extremist principles". Its that the majority of Americans are intelligent enough to recognize the dishonesty and greed behind the extremism. They have learned its much better to vote for Democrats who will help Americans who work for a living that is being pulled downward by powerfully dishonest corporate special interests that have been able to hijack the GOP. It is totally unsustainable and destructive and until the GOP wises up, it will continue to lose elections!

There! That's a lot more like the real story.

Makid
Kearns, UT

Mountanman,

I have been a lifelong Republican until this last election. Do you want to know why?

ACA (Obamacare).

My wife got cancer in late 2011, it has been taken care of now but Republicans want to strip her of ever having health insurance again.

The ACA makes it so that insurance companies can't deny coverage to people. Republicans want to strip that out because the free market should be in charge. Profits over people. That type of mentality should be discouraged.

Republicans only seem to care about corporate profit and not the people. This is why Republicans are starting to see election problems. Other people are starting to see like I have been forced to see.

There are good aspects to each party but putting corporate profits above the health and welfare of the general population is sick and wrong.

If Republicans had their way, Social Security would be gone in 10 years, Medicare would be privatized and costs increased in 5 years and cancer patients and those with preexisting conditions would be denied medical insurance.

Why are Republicans wanting to destroy the country by destroying the people? That is what more people are asking now.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The extreme extremist are here in Utah. More worried about more guns in more places than less pollution and breathable air.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Mntman said: "Its that the majority of Americans have abandoned their principles. They have learned its easier to vote for Democrats that work for a living."

Keep believing Man, but I would argue that having different "principals" is NOT a bad thing. My father was a closet rasist by insisting that races not intermarry. I never accepted that "principal" one could argue that I abandoned a traditional "principal." I prefer to believe that one mans poison is another mans principal depending on knowledge instead of Tradition.

Calling half of America "Freeloaders" is gunna keep bringing them into the GOP pup tent.

John C. C.
Payson, UT

I mourn over how many in my Republican party are so uncompromising on two particular issues, favoring the rich and attacking public schools. Despite numerous polls that show they are far to the right of public opinion, they hold fast. For example, Utahns have consistently said they would accept a tax increase if it would increase funding for the schools.

Unfortunately Utah politicians know that if they please the voting public they will displease the caucus delegates, and those caucuses are still dominated by a minority of extremists.

one old man
Ogden, UT

John CC, may I ask, Why are you still a Republican?

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Happy Valley. 47% of Americans pay no federal income taxes and have no skin in the game. Do you really think they would NOT vote for a Democrat? Really? The problem facing the Democrats is paying for all their entitlements that buy them votes! Our grandchildren are nearly tapped out already with the massive debt we are forcing upon them! Where are you going to get the money? Who is left to bail you out? Hint: NOBODY can pay your bills!

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Publisher Dean Singleton, a major power in the Colorado Republican party, recently said that the Republican party is dead in Colorado because they have become too extreme to attract average voters. This has caused Colorado to go from being a reliably Republican state to being a Democratic state in just a decade. The Governor, both Senators, and both houses of their legislature are now Democratic.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

The fundamental argument of this letter is certifiably wrong.
Just a few days ago the big debate in the DN was how Utah is a one party (Republican) State
The majority of governorships and state legislatures in the US are Republican dominated.
The US House of Representative (which is statistically the most representative body of the US population) is majority Republican
Therefore the belief that Republicans are extreme is merely the letter writer’s histrionics in relationship to his own bias
Republicans lost the presidential election to an incumbent. Beating an incumbent is difficult (Kerry could not beat Bush) yet Obama was the first incumbent president to be elected with less popular and electoral votes than the first time. It was Obama, not Romney, who exploited race, class and gender warfare (via such hatemongering as a contrived war on women and unsubstantiated allegations of racism) to cover for his own incompetence. Hate and fear may have worked for Obama this time, yet attempts to disown reality by accusing others of worse behavior remain insufferably hypocritical and intolerant in the extreme.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@Mountanman – “The real problem the Republican party has isn't their "extremist principles". Its that the majority of Americans have abandoned their principles.”

Amen, brother. As a fiscal conservative who also believes in a strong work ethic (as well as good ethics in general), I just wish there was a party out there that not only believed in those general principles, but at the same time did not believe:

1.Climate change is a hoax.

2.The healthcare market works just like the market for toasters.

3. Jefferson was simply wrong on that “separation of church and state” thing.

4.All regulations are bad.

5.That (as a guiding principle) government is always evil and corporations are always awesome. And by extension…

6.That a corporation = a natural person. And again, by extension…

7.Is in the pocket of big corporations; which results in everything from $100B+ bailouts, to crony capitalism, to turning a blind eye to pollution, etc. etc. etc….

Just to name a few…

Beverly
Eden, UT

I voted for Barry Goldwater and every conservative Republican since 1964, but the current extreme politics of the Tea Party, NRA, Eagle Forum, to name a few, have changed my commitment to the Republican Party. Even some of the comments in response to this letter attempt to suggest that we need to stand strong against a wave of value changes. It is this foolish nonsense that has hurt our Party. The world is changing and the Republican Party needs to catch up. Richard Nixon stated, "You can solve today's problems with yesterday's ideas." (Is it safe to use a Nixon quote?). We need new ideas. The foolishness of signing Grover's pledge, giving Wayne LaPierre a warm welcome, and parading guns around our State Capital make Utahans look like a bunch of extremists and pushes all of Utah to the margins in America. If we want to influence the national agenda of the Republican Party, we need to kick the extremists like the Tea Party and Eagle Forum to the curb.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Seems like history shows that no matter the government, when the people become oppressed so far, they rebel and change the government.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if in American we could dodge that truth by a peaceful rebirth of freedom by simply changing the rules of our economy to fit the modern world?

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

The problem is not that the GOP is any more extreme than the Democrats, its just that the liberal press loves to try and pin the term "right-wing extremist" to any conservative.

There are a large number of liberal posters on this forum who do the same thing every day. Point out conservative values and label them extreme. Tell the lie enough times and eventually people start to believe it.

Obama and his cabinet picks are radical leftists and their policies are about as extreme as they come, but you never hear the "left-wing extremist" label attached to them in any news stories from the main stream press.

BTW... there are a number of liberal posters on this forum to have several screen names and log in using them to "like" the comments they posted under their other screen names...to give the impression that radical left wing thought is very popular even here in Utah.

one old man
Ogden, UT

JoeCap -- hogwash. Did you know that it's not possible to sign in on DN's comment board more than once? So your argument that some "liberals" log in multiple times just doesn't wash.

The real problem with "conservative values" is that far too many of them ARE extreme.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

After loosing 2 national Presidential elections in a row,
the Republican Party has outlined a 'plan to attract minorities.'

It's called "Operation Pretend We Like'em." ~ Jay Leno

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

As a life long conservative it saddens me to accept the fact that the Republican Party has lost America's next voting generation and have the extreme right to thank for it! McConell's " Obama a one term President" is going to haunt the Repubs. for eight years of Obama and eight years of H. Clinton. Unfortunately I am to old to hope to think I will be around to see if the conservatives will realize center and compromise is not evil, and likewise for the left!

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