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Published: Friday, March 15 2013 2:26 p.m. MDT

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Colorado Springs, CO

Mountanman: Gas prices in June '08 were $4.08. That's above what it is now. I, too, can pick and choose a number to support my beliefs!

m.g.: So is that it? We found oil, and we have gone as far as we can go for alternatives? There's nothing else out there that can be used? You and I will probably never know, but I'm betting the future will find it!

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Chris B: Subsidies and Tax breaks for Oil companies in excess of Billions and billions while they report record profits is the republican welfare for the wealthy that the above posters want to remain status quo. Nothing new to see here.

Why are oil companies investing in new tech if we have the nearly unlimited supply that I keep hearing about? Maybe they can see the writing on the wall. Also they receive grants and tax deductions to do that research so they get even more of the peoples money.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

The private sector... private enterprises... have always, and will always be more effective and less wasteful than the government in any kind of enterprise or endevour. History has shown that to be the case in hundreds and thousands of examples and is statistically irrefutable.

Over 3 years later, more than one-third of Obama's $800 billion stimulus spending package is still unaccounted for. No one can tell where that money went or what it was used for. If that had been a private sector project, every dollar would be accounted for. The IRS holds private businesses to a much higher standard than it does government spending. Therefore, it's not sad at all (as one commenter said) that private businesses are spending much more for alternative fuel research than the government is. Much more will be accomplished and in a much shorter time.

There are already huge incentives in place that are causing thousands of big-rig trucks and buses to be in the process of converting to CNG (compressed natural gas). America has more natural gas reserves than any other country in the world. Big changes are already moving forward within the automotive and nuclear industries.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Bebyebe,
you did not answer Mr. Scott's question.

wean vehicles of oil. OK, replace that with........?????

you wean a child off his mother's milk and replace that with cereals and other baby foods, then more solid foods, and eventually regular foods.

You are telling us, essentially, stop eating completely. You know what happens when you do that, don't you? you DIE!

We'll give you another chance.

With what is BO proposing we replace oil?

BTW, Nissan and other companies are already selling alternative fuel vehicles. They did it WITHOUT taxpayer money from BO.

Happy Valley
As Redshirt pointed out, those big, bad, EVIL, SATANIC oil companies are the ones spending the most on alternative fuels research. Are you saying you want the government to subsidize them even MORE?

VST
Bountiful, UT

This article's headline is interesting, "Obama wants research to wean vehicles off oil."

So do I.

But where I differ with Obama is he wants the oil companies (eventually taxpayers) to pay for that research directly through the federal government.

That begs the question: "What is the value added?"

I want private industry (oil and automotive manufacturers) to pay for the research, and likewise, we will pay private industry to do it through our own purchases at the gas pump and automotive purchases.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

First become energy independent by opening up ALL public lands to oil production .... this will create a boom for the economy. The next step is to look into new technology for cars that doesn't require oil. Obama is always backwards on his plans.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Perhaps Obama has seen too many Star Wars movies. Feels we can make cars that float on air. Hmm?

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

One of Obama's helpers should tell him we have no more money for gambling.
We already spent it on Solyndra.

Now if we were to stop spending money to implement Obamacare...........never mind.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

lost in DC said:
wean vehicles of oil. OK, replace that with........?????
you wean a child off his mother's milk and replace that with cereals and other baby foods, then more solid foods, and eventually regular foods."

You answered your own question without realizing it. WEAN does not mean stop eating or driving it means a calculated transition to more efficient or different energy source.

All or None, Black or White there are spaces between for some people.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Happy Valley Heretic" I don't think you understand what the question was.

Let me rephrase it and hopefully you will get it this time.

Obama wants to wean vehicles off oil. What does Mr. Obama plan to replace the oil derived fuel with?

Right now there is no viable alternative to oil. How do you plan an weaning that child from milk to steak without a plan?

Tators
Hyrum, UT

To xscribe:

Yes, gas prices did top out at over $4 per gallon in June 2008. But it was a very temporary spike caused by extenuating circumstances. And by election day in November 2008, when Obama was voted in, gas prices had fallen back down to $1.61 per gallon, closer to the $2 range they were traditionally in before that temporary price spike that you are trying to argumentatively exploit.
So Mountainman really was (is) correct. Gas prices actually have doubled since Obama was first voted in as president. Google "historical gas price data" and it can easily be verified. Gasbuddy.com has a data graph chart that is simple enough to read. Try it.

Environmentalists are strong supporters of Obama. He is beholding to them. Their agenda is for much less usage of gas and oil. The easiest way to accomplish that is to have consumer gas prices go up substantially, even though it significantly hurts the economy whenever it does. Hopefully, reasonable priced alternatives will become more readily available before current escalating gas prices get too far out of hand. Government interference is not the answer, nor will it ever be.

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

For the last 35 years I've been pushing for more research into other proven and potential alternate sources of energy, like bio-fuels (from non-food plants), geothermal, wave-motion, advanced nuclear and several other constant (meaning not reliant on very variable energy sources, like wind or solar), virtually inexhaustible forms of non-fossil energy.

My principal motivation is **not** an attempt for some fanciful effect on global "climate change" (many past world-wide ice ages have convinced me our planet will change plenty with and/or without our "help"), but rather a simple desire to not be so "all our eggs in one basket" dependent on oil. Particularly when we are still so reliant on oil from some very inhospitable sources (Chavez's welcome departure notwithstanding).

I suspect with our enormous existing oil/gasoline-based infrastructure, something similar (bio-fuel, probably algae) will be our best first bet. But we need to continue to expand the alternatives.

Like the scout motto says, we need to, "Be Prepared".

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Happy Valley
I answered my own question without realizing it? I asked what BO is proposing we use to replace oil. Where did I answer that question? What did I say BO was proposing we use.

reading comprehension problems?

I guess you missed the point of my comment to bebyeb; it was bebyebe who was essentially saying go ahead and stop eating and die because bebyebe did not say what BO was going to use to replace the oil.

As noted in my original comment, wean implies replacing one thing gradually with something else. We are STILL WAITING for the BO apologists to say what BO is proposing we replace oil with. Do you know? bebyebe apparently does not because he/she/it has certainly not said so.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

RedShirt said:
"To "Happy Valley Heretic" I don't think you understand what the question was.
Obama wants to wean vehicles off oil. What does Mr. Obama plan to replace the oil derived fuel with?
Right now there is no viable alternative to oil. How do you plan an weaning that child from milk to steak without a plan?"

From the article: "over the next decade to expand research into electric cars and biofuels to wean automobiles off gasoline."

I don't think you understand "a decade of research" is a plan vs. Your NO PLAN, do nothing about it until it's all gone.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Taters: Yes, but...I love it. I am "technically" correct also, and gas prices also doubled under Bush. Gas was just recently down to $2.60 here in Colorado. Gas prices fluctuate, and have for a long, long time. So unless you can provide some concrete data that somehow Obama's policies have produced high gas prices, then it's plain rhetoric.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Why?

The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes - FOUR DAYS ONLY by that volcano in Iceland, has totally erased every single effort made to reduce the evil beast,-carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at any one time - EVERY DAY. I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in all its years on earth. Yes folks, Mt Pinatubo - think about it.--What humans are doing is very little to nothing.

Fools are people who believe lies.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Happy Valley Heretic, since when is the Washington Post a reliable source for unbiased info?

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Airnaut, if you want to be credible, please use proper grammar. Case in point, "make up stories and invaded Oil rich Middle Eastern countries."

I would have said, "make up stories and invade oil rich Middle Eastern countries".

Seriously, if we were taking Iraq's oil, which frankly we ought to do to pay us back for all the money squandered there, our gas prices would be much lower due to that oil flooding the U.S. market.

Since we are not doing that, your comment is not valid.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Pretty sure Mt. St Helens did the same thing.

Spikey
Layton, UT

@bebyebe:

How do you wean a non-living thing off of anything. That's liberal speak, you can't wean a car off oil! He thinks we don't see through him. But I do.

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