Ned--I've always taken it that, when someone says, "I could care
less," they are implying "I suppose I COULD care less if I chose to care
joseywales: Thanks for the appropriate chastisement. Your totally right to call
me out on that issue. But there are worse things then that. Most of them are
real flustrating, but the ability to speak real English is taken for granite by
so many. I would aks you to have compassion on me since I definately dont want
to be on your bad side. Since I used to live in Lay-un, I should get a free
pass. So for now, Ill leave it at that.I would aks this question, If
not for the grammar police, them who? I knew I should have used the
Ned Grimley- Grammar police, you've got to love 'em. But actually
thinking about it I was right. I actually could care less, but I choose not to
at this time.So, because I have some level of concern left, I guess it's ok
to interject? See what I'm saying? If I couldn't care less that shows
I have no emotion left on the subject. That's when you wouldn't want
to interject. But, my response wasn't so much about the Pope as it was that
the Dnews was doing a story not of the local majority faith. You might have
missed that while hopping onto correct grammar dot com.
@TylerD"I don’t mean this to sound insulting, but wouldn’t
you feel the same way if you were reading about all this with respect to Zeus,
Baal or Poseidon or any of the other gods/superstitions of other current
religions (e.g., Hinduism)? "Considering a negligible amount of
people today worship Zeus, Baal, or Poseiden I would be rather confused. I
don't think it's really silly to see reporting on who is chosen to
lead a religion. After all, those are influential selections. Regardless of
whether or not you or I think it's silly it does have an impact on people.
@ atl134 – “are they not supposed to report on something that
matters to roughly 1/7th the world?”Perhaps you’re
right… although do you think we’ll see the same level of reporting
when the Dalai Lama or one of the main leaders of Islam dies? But
the main point I was trying to make was in my last two paragraphs and how all
this looks to a non-believer… which is the same as when my kids discuss
all the merits of their comic book super heroes, including all the dress up and
play acting.The difference though is that with my kids it’s
all harmless fun and I know someday they’ll grow up and put aside childish
things.I don’t mean this to sound insulting, but
wouldn’t you feel the same way if you were reading about all this with
respect to Zeus, Baal or Poseidon or any of the other gods/superstitions of
other current religions (e.g., Hinduism)? @Wrz –
“You're forgetting…”Not really. Popularity
and endurance through time of beliefs do not make them anymore true…
useful perhaps, certainly as vehicles of power and control.
@Tyler D:Imagine your reaction to reading historical accounts of the
churches devoted to Zeus or Baal, both of which were followed by large
percentages of ancient societies."You're forgetting the
prominent position the Catholic Church had all through most of the history of
the last 2000 years. That church is responsible for the retention of Christian
thought and practice during that time from Constantine and before, to the
present. True, the church has had it's dark hours such as the Spanish et.
al., Inquisition and the throwing of what's his name (Galileo) into jail
for his intransigence on his heliocentric concept on the earth/sun relationship.
Whereas churches devoted to Zeus, Baal, etc., petered out centuries ago with
but a handful of adherents at any given time. So... don't be too harsh.
"Considering all the nonsense people have believed, en masse, throughout
history this is not a very satisfying answer. "Ah yes. A common
religious occurrence.I always find it amusing when people of faith
looks at the beliefs of others as "nonsense".They are
typically blind to how nonsensical their own beliefs seem to others.
joseywales: "I could care less who the next Pope is" Did you mean to say
you couldn't care less? Is your level of care regarding this matter at
it's lowest, or could it be even lower? Obviously there must be some level
of concern or you wouldn't have interjected into the conversation.That said, alt134 had the perfect response to Tyler D. I agree.
And.......Diversity and understanding is a good thing! Education is
valuable!! Diverse DN articles are welcome!The more we try to understand
why others think the way they do, why they believe the way they do, what their
history is, and vise versa, the better off we human beings will be.However, it will continue to be baffling to try to understand those people and
groups, religious or not, who have no empathy or understanding of the less
fortunate of our country and our world.
"Black smoke again: Cardinals don't agree on pope"I
think they should get off the dime and move ahead briskly with this procedure so
they can stop polluting the atmosphere with black smoke.
Doctrinal differences aside, as a LDS member I am anxious to see who will lead
the Catholic Church. Regardless of ones feelings about the next pope, it is
still a dominant position for good in the world, and the next pope will push for
the advocacy of strong families, charitable giving, and renewed peace throughout
the world. For my Catholic friens, I pray that you are given the right leader
for these tumoltuous times. You are deserving of a strong leader who will bring
much stability to the Catholic church at large.
@Tyler DThe state of Utah is 10% Catholic the second largest faith in Utah
(unless we count unaffiliated as one) This article is in the "world and
nation" section of the paper, are they not supposed to report on something
that matters to roughly 1/7th the world?
Personally Tyler D, I think it's mostly because Mormons don't fully
get Catholics, so there is some natural curiosity. I could care less who the
next Pope is, I'm hoping he is someone who the devout Catholics admire and
want to follow, but it's just kind of interesting to me, to watch throngs
of people line up and wait to see the white smoke. I glad the Dnews gives
coverage to other faiths, it's refreshing.
I continue to be baffled by the frequency of all this pomp and circumstance
being reported in the DN. Putting aside for a moment the many doctrinal
differences between the Catholic and LDS churches, I’m curious why this
these proceedings are given so much attention in general, at least by
non-Catholics.And the only answer that seems plausible is that it is
due to the large number of believers. That fact alone seems to make it worthy of
our respect. Considering all the nonsense people have believed, en masse,
throughout history this is not a very satisfying answer. Imagine
your reaction to reading historical accounts of the churches devoted to Zeus or
Baal, both of which were followed by large percentages of ancient societies.
That is exactly how all of this “picking a pope” stuff looks to a