I have neighbors on both sides of my house.My neighbor on the left,
has wages tripled to those on the right.Crazy! The neighbors to
the right are debt free, while those to the left are in a triple digit debt.With a tremendous amount of government revenue, we to, should be debt
free, but our leaders are corrupted big time spenders, and we will suffer for
We need to read both Ryan's, and Obama's budget plans to form a
HS Fan,The deficits were almost eliminated in 1999 and 2000, NOT in 1992.
And remember, slick willy shut down the government THREE TIMES because the
repubs did not want to spend as much as he did. Only when he held his finger to
the political winds and saw the people actually wanted reduced spending, did he
acquiesce. Please stop re-writing history.Truthseeker,Yeah,
and repubs and demonrats got together under LBJ and passed medicare; but the
subject bills were the deficit reduction act and welfare reform act, NOT those
you cited. And you quote an uber-liberal think tank as an authority?
HAHAHAHAHAHA. But look again, you are saying there are NO poor in the seriously
disabled and working householdsXscribe,5 of the last 8
presidents. OK, what has the make-up of congress been? Remember, unlike the
way BO is trying to run things, the POTUS is not a supreme dictator.EdGrady, IronyGuyYou’ve been listening to too many lies from the
DNC and MSNBC. If you’ve been paying that long, you are grandfathered in.
RE: NoodlekaboodleThe reform would be in the form of each person
having control of their own pension plans, 401K and other ways to invest
retirement. I'm not advocating keeping things as they are. If you thought
that, then I didn't explain it very well. The change needs to be in how
the whole social security plan is implemented in the first place. I'd like
for people to be able to opt out all together and invest their money in
something other than this current ponzi scheme that will likely go bankrupt or
bankrupt the country. Change is needed. And change now for the future is
better than waiting for disaster.
FDRfanComparing Republicans to a murderous Hitler is not only
asanine, but insulting as well. If I said that about Obama I would be called a
racist. Learn a diffent term to reflect your point of view instead of comparing
them to a murderous vilain.
Think of the budget as an overweight kid who needs to be skinnier. One way to
achieve that is significantly cut back on his daily caloric intake, resulting in
moderate weight loss. But, if his intake is too severely reduced, it could
affect his growth. Another way for him to become leaner is to stabilize his
calorie intake, keep him from gaining weight through a slight caloric decrease,
and as he continues to grow he will become leaner. Paul Krugman
points out:"The budget doesn’t have to be balanced to put us on
a fiscally sustainable path; all we need is a deficit small enough that debt
grows more slowly than the economy. To take the classic example, America never
did pay off the debt from World War II — in fact, our debt doubled in the
30 years that followed the war. But debt as a percentage of G.D.P. fell by
three-quarters over the same period.Right now, a sustainable deficit
would be around $460 billion." The real threat to the economy
is long term--as the population ages. We need to slow the rise of healthcare
costs. Immigration can also help.
So we have a tax and spend budget or a slow the rate of growth of government
budget... I am for the later but I think the majority of Americans are for the
former. I think people in this country want as much as they can get from their
government not realizing someone has to pay for it. It is like my teenager
wanting me to fill up his gas tank. He claims he doesn't want money, just
the tank full. Why does he think I should do this for him? He says well I live
in your house. You can substitute his gas tank with health care, unemployment
benefits, pell grants, defense contracts or a myriad of other government
programs, and substitute my house for I live in the US, I deserve it.... I hope
I am wrong but I think we will see a democratic house elected in 2014.
I can see my 92 year old neighbor bringing her little Ryan voucher to a
negotiation session with her friendly insurance agent, a wolf who will eat that
sheep whole.The financial market has already stolen vast quantities of equity
from the elderly with their "reverse mortgage" scam; just imagine what
the insurance companies would do to them given a chance.
counterI did know of Ryans resume. I didn't realize that
"career politician" counted as real employment and constitutional law
professor didn't.My mistake.
@m.g. scottLet me see if I'm getting your plan correctly. You want to
take THE EXACT same benefits, but cut or eliminate the benefit for people under
40. Why is that OK? Why do you get to take government money,that's coming
out of my checks, but then not give me the same benefit your getting. It seems
like you only care about yourself, not young families like mine and many others
in this state and country. Preposterous!!!!!
Keep feeding into the finger pointing you only give your elected officials an
easy way to keep doing nothing.
One thing that people often don't understand about budget proposals. Obama
and democratic leader's budget proposals for reducing spending never entail
any actual budget cuts. They simply propose reducing the rate of already
exaggerated proposed budget increases (that have largely become uncontrolled).
And that in effect does nothing toward actually reducing the existing deficit.
Absolutely nothing! In fact, they still allow for increases beyond inflation and
population growth.That is the reason Obama is currently reigning
over trillion-plus (1,200 billions) annual deficits that keep growing at
unprecedented rates. The current annual and overall budget deficits are the
highest of any nation, at any time in the history of mankind... even after
accounting for inflation. Mind-boggling!Those who understand the
true ramifications of where this situation is headed are having a hard time
sleeping at night... and for good reason. Without major and immediate change, we
are truly headed for a fiscal disaster. What's been happening in the worst
Europe nations is just a small warning of what will soon be happening here...
only on a much larger scale.
@JoeBlow"Such as? Name one job he has had."Who?
Obama or Ryan?Obama was a "community organizer" and
lawyerRyan worked at McDonaldsObama served one incomplete term in
the US senateRyan is on his tenth term in the houseRyan is nearly 10
years youngerA non-ostrich could easily find that information for
themselves without the feigned indigationBTW: You are the one that
says conservatives demand business experienceI merely require economic
To "FDRfan" your analogy is 100% wrong. Hitler was able to trise to
power by using a series of financial and social crises and finding a group to
blame everything on. He then began acting as a dictator and circumvented the
law to accomplish his goals. When the people received "free care" from
the government, they followed him and granted him more power.Please
go and learn about how Hitler was able to rise to power so that we can avoid a
Hitler like person in the US.
I will say it again,The GOP can pass any house budget that they
want. And do so without a single Democratic vote.That is what
happened last time the Ryan budget came up in the house.The senate
cannot pass a budget without GOP support.So, please don't make
it sound like a big deal that the Senate hasn't passed a budget and the
house has.Ryan has again pushed a budget (actually, the same one)
that will get zero Democratic votes. He knows that it has ZERO chance of
passing the senate.So, someone tell me exactly what that
accomplishes. Do you call that leadership, or partisanship?@counter"Ryan has more experience than the current office
holder did"Such as? Name one job he has had.Incidentally, since when did college law professor get declassified as a
job?Same with civil rights attorney.Author?Tell me again
what Ryan's Resume consists of?
The author very aptly described exactly what is happening plain and simple,
"But this year's dueling GOP and Democratic budget proposals are more
about defining political differences — as if last year's elections
didn't do enough of that — than charting a path forward toward a
solution. Congressional budgets often simply state party positions, and
invariably are partisan endeavors."
No wait a minute all of you. The Republicans have not passed a budget. Just
listen to Jay Carney and all the MSNBC talking heads. OK, reality
time now. Re: FDRfan: Using Hitler to make a point about
Republicans? Please.Re: EdGrady: I don't think people like
you and I need to worry about any SS/Medicare being taken from our generation.
If Ryan and the Republicans tried to alter entitlements to people within a few
years of getting those entitlements, it WOULD end the Republicans as a party.
What needs to be done is adjust those programs for future generations, like
people currently in their 30s or 40s. What is most amazing is only today in an
interview with with George S on ABC, Obama said there is no immediate debt
problem and the debt can be sustained for another 10 years. Does anyone believe
it. Just how out of touch can this President be? In another 10 years at this
rate out debt will be 30 trillion dollars. Let's get some adult thinking
in the White House.
If Ryan's budget plan does balance the budget, it will do it on the backs
of the middle class. I yearn for the old days when Republicans actually cared
about the middle class.
@patriot"The Ryan budget eliminates the now 2 trillion dollar train
wreck of Obamacare and proposes a NEW and improved patient centered healthcare
reform package in its place. "Actually it does no such thing.
Ryan still keeps the 716 billion in Medicare cuts that was in Obamacare. then
despite repealing the rest he still claims Obamacares' trillion in revenue.
Somehow he claims this reduces the deficit by 1.8 billion despite the 716
billion not being a change compared to current law and the 1.1 trillion still
being claimed despite him repealing that tax revenue. Then if he proposes
something new that's a new cost.
@JoeBlow"But Paul Ryan has no experience outside of being a
politician. He has been working in Washington since he graduated
college."Ryan has more experience than the current office holder
A new analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities underscores that
the poor are no longer the primary beneficiaries of the government safety net.
A new CBPP analysis of budget and Census data, shows that more than 90 percent
of the benefit dollars that entitlement and other mandatory programs spend go
to assist people who are elderly, seriously disabled, or members of working
households — not to able-bodied, working-age Americans who choose not to
work. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not
live in a working household — received only 9% of the benefits. Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9% goes for medical care, unemployment
insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to
receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of
deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and
64. African-Americans, who make up 22% of the poor, receive 14% of
government benefits, close to their 12% population share.White
non-Hispanics, who make up 42% of the poor, 64% of the population, receive 69%
of government benefits.
"Paul Ryan should be our next president"But Paul Ryan has no
experience outside of being a politician. He has been working in Washington
since he graduated college.I thought that those on the right wanted
someone with business experience.
"I listened to Ryan explain his budget and I was impressed with the
thoughtfulness as well as the practicality"Patriot.Ryans budget lowers tax rates and intends to make up the difference by closing
loopholes and deductions.Did he name one deduction that would be
lost or one loophole closed?If not, how do you know it is practical?
@FDRfanYour reference to Hitler immedialtly negated any credibilityThe Republican House has done far more in the last two years to manage a
budget than either Obama or the Democrat Senate.Paul Ryan should be
our next president
I didn't pay Medicare taxes for 50 years just to get one of Ryan's
So we have a "REAL" budget from Paul Ryan vs the "FAKE" budget
from Harry Reid. I listened to Ryan explain his budget and I was impressed with
the thoughtfulness as well as the practicality. The Ryan budget will balance the
US budget in 10 years - will INCREASE spending by 3% more each of the the next
10 years which accounts for inflation. The Ryan budget eliminates the now 2
trillion dollar train wreck of Obamacare and proposes a NEW and improved patient
centered healthcare reform package in its place. The imposter or
"FAKE" budget proposed by uncle Harry asks for an additional 1 trillion
in NEW TAXES - this is in addition to the huge tax increase Obama already got on
Jan 1 as well as the new payroll tax that all of us got smashed with Jan 1. Also
the "FAKE" budget DOESN'T balance the US budget - doesn't even
try. This is just a bunch of new taxes and 5.5% new spending. So the
Democrat's and liberals are content in NEVER balancing the budget and
therefore passing along to our kids a mount Everest sized mountain of debt which
will destroy future generations of Americans.
Mountanman: 5 of the last 8 presidents have been republican. Kind of hard to
create dependency and maintain power with the track record!DN
Subscriber: I see you are still on a liberal media, Santa Claus, free gifts, if
people don't vote like me they are low-information voters, kick. Nice!This budget is the very same budget that democrats rejected before. If
this is what Ryan is spending his time doing, then he is doing a disservice to
his constituents, as this plan will be rejected also. Ryan needs to compromise,
and so do the democrats. That's what the people want and have been saying
for a long time. Neither side wants to compromise, and you end up with those
who think their way is the only way posting comments that others who disagree
with them must be getting government gifts or are low-information voters, which
is just a nice way of saying they are dumb!
Anyone criticizing the Ryan plan needs to tell us about the Democrat controlled
senate's budget proposals- ZERO passed in the last four years- to avoid
making any tough choices.Tell us about Obama's last budget
proposal which received ZERO votes from any member of the House or Senate.The Democrats are not serious about governing, or fixing the obscene
debt they have dumped in the laps of every child in the country. They want to
win elections by being Santa Claus and give "free stuff!" to low
information voters, but do not want to actually take responsibility for doing
what needs to be done.In my opinion, the Ryan plan does not cut
nearly enough, or nearly fast enough, but it is the best plan on the table, so I
will support it. Of course, any story from Associated Press is
little more than administration approved propaganda anyway.
The Affordable Care Act, or 'Obamacare' is, as John Boehner said,
"the law of the land." It is not going to be repealed. In fact, some
people, such as young adults who can remain on their parents' policies, are
already benefitting from it. In short, Ryan's budget, which relies on an
event that will not occur, is not really a budget at all. It is a wish
Re:MountanmanThe Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 (or
OBRA-93) was a federal law that was enacted by the 103rd United States
Congress (without a single Republican vote) and signed into law by President
Bill Clinton. It has also been referred to, unofficially, as the Deficit
Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt with taxes and is also called the
Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.It created 36 percent and 39.6
income tax rates for individuals in the top 1.2% of the wage earners.It
created a 35 percent income tax rate for corporations.The cap on Medicare
taxes was repealed.Transportation fuels taxes were raised by 4.3 cents per
gallon.The taxable portion of Social Security benefits was raised.The phase-out of the personal exemption and limit on itemized deductions were
permanently extended.Part IV Section 14131: Expansion of the Earned Income
Tax Credit and added inflation adjustments.Newt Gingrich didn't
become Speaker until January 1995.
@ HS Fan. Baloney! Newt Gingrich was speaker of the Republican controlled House
that passed the balanced budget. If not so, then please tell me how Gingrich got
himself elected as speaker and how the deficit reduction and welfare reform act
got passed if not a Republican voted for it since the Republicans controlled the
House at that time? How on earth did the deficit reduction act ever pass if no
Republican voted for it in a Republican dominated House of Representatives?
Even Bill Clinton announced afterward, " the era of big government is
over" after he was forced to agree to it!
Mountanman-Your re-writing history instead of reading it. Not one
Republican voted for the 1992 deficit reduction bill created by Clinton. The
GOP used the tax increases from that bill to help balance future budgets, they
never repealed them. Notice how Ryan's plan does not repeal the
Obama care taxes or the January tax increases? Once again, the GOP lets the
lib's do the heavy lifting.
This will balance our federal budget and create surpluses the same way Newt
Gingrich, then Speaker of the House did during Bill Clinton's
administration. Clinton is still taking credit for it but that's ok!
Democrats do not want a balanced budget or fiscal responsibly because it reduces
government wasteful spending and entitlements which Democrats depend on to
create dependency and keeps them in power. A person dependent on the government
will almost always vote to keep their entitlements coming even though we have no
hope of ever paying for all of them, hence our $17 trillion debt and growing by
$10 billion every day! We simply can not continue to spend money we do not have!
The Republicans are controlled by a small faction that is effectively on a
course to get control of the Government. Hitler did it in Germany. America had
better wake up.