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Published: Tuesday, March 12 2013 7:01 p.m. MDT

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FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

The Republicans are controlled by a small faction that is effectively on a course to get control of the Government. Hitler did it in Germany. America had better wake up.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

This will balance our federal budget and create surpluses the same way Newt Gingrich, then Speaker of the House did during Bill Clinton's administration. Clinton is still taking credit for it but that's ok! Democrats do not want a balanced budget or fiscal responsibly because it reduces government wasteful spending and entitlements which Democrats depend on to create dependency and keeps them in power. A person dependent on the government will almost always vote to keep their entitlements coming even though we have no hope of ever paying for all of them, hence our $17 trillion debt and growing by $10 billion every day! We simply can not continue to spend money we do not have!

HS Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

Mountanman-
Your re-writing history instead of reading it. Not one Republican voted for the 1992 deficit reduction bill created by Clinton. The GOP used the tax increases from that bill to help balance future budgets, they never repealed them.
Notice how Ryan's plan does not repeal the Obama care taxes or the January tax increases? Once again, the GOP lets the lib's do the heavy lifting.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ HS Fan. Baloney! Newt Gingrich was speaker of the Republican controlled House that passed the balanced budget. If not so, then please tell me how Gingrich got himself elected as speaker and how the deficit reduction and welfare reform act got passed if not a Republican voted for it since the Republicans controlled the House at that time? How on earth did the deficit reduction act ever pass if no Republican voted for it in a Republican dominated House of Representatives? Even Bill Clinton announced afterward, " the era of big government is over" after he was forced to agree to it!

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:Mountanman

The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 (or OBRA-93[1]) was a federal law that was enacted by the 103rd United States Congress (without a single Republican vote) and signed into law by President Bill Clinton. It has also been referred to, unofficially, as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt with taxes and is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.

It created 36 percent and 39.6 income tax rates for individuals in the top 1.2% of the wage earners.[2]
It created a 35 percent income tax rate for corporations.
The cap on Medicare taxes was repealed.
Transportation fuels taxes were raised by 4.3 cents per gallon.
The taxable portion of Social Security benefits was raised.
The phase-out of the personal exemption and limit on itemized deductions were permanently extended.
Part IV Section 14131: Expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit and added inflation adjustments.

Newt Gingrich didn't become Speaker until January 1995.

Interloper
Portland, OR

The Affordable Care Act, or 'Obamacare' is, as John Boehner said, "the law of the land." It is not going to be repealed. In fact, some people, such as young adults who can remain on their parents' policies, are already benefitting from it. In short, Ryan's budget, which relies on an event that will not occur, is not really a budget at all. It is a wish fulfillment fantasy.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Anyone criticizing the Ryan plan needs to tell us about the Democrat controlled senate's budget proposals- ZERO passed in the last four years- to avoid making any tough choices.

Tell us about Obama's last budget proposal which received ZERO votes from any member of the House or Senate.

The Democrats are not serious about governing, or fixing the obscene debt they have dumped in the laps of every child in the country. They want to win elections by being Santa Claus and give "free stuff!" to low information voters, but do not want to actually take responsibility for doing what needs to be done.

In my opinion, the Ryan plan does not cut nearly enough, or nearly fast enough, but it is the best plan on the table, so I will support it.

Of course, any story from Associated Press is little more than administration approved propaganda anyway.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Mountanman: 5 of the last 8 presidents have been republican. Kind of hard to create dependency and maintain power with the track record!

DN Subscriber: I see you are still on a liberal media, Santa Claus, free gifts, if people don't vote like me they are low-information voters, kick. Nice!

This budget is the very same budget that democrats rejected before. If this is what Ryan is spending his time doing, then he is doing a disservice to his constituents, as this plan will be rejected also. Ryan needs to compromise, and so do the democrats. That's what the people want and have been saying for a long time. Neither side wants to compromise, and you end up with those who think their way is the only way posting comments that others who disagree with them must be getting government gifts or are low-information voters, which is just a nice way of saying they are dumb!

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

So we have a "REAL" budget from Paul Ryan vs the "FAKE" budget from Harry Reid. I listened to Ryan explain his budget and I was impressed with the thoughtfulness as well as the practicality. The Ryan budget will balance the US budget in 10 years - will INCREASE spending by 3% more each of the the next 10 years which accounts for inflation. The Ryan budget eliminates the now 2 trillion dollar train wreck of Obamacare and proposes a NEW and improved patient centered healthcare reform package in its place.

The imposter or "FAKE" budget proposed by uncle Harry asks for an additional 1 trillion in NEW TAXES - this is in addition to the huge tax increase Obama already got on Jan 1 as well as the new payroll tax that all of us got smashed with Jan 1. Also the "FAKE" budget DOESN'T balance the US budget - doesn't even try. This is just a bunch of new taxes and 5.5% new spending.

So the Democrat's and liberals are content in NEVER balancing the budget and therefore passing along to our kids a mount Everest sized mountain of debt which will destroy future generations of Americans.

EdGrady
Idaho Falls, ID

I didn't pay Medicare taxes for 50 years just to get one of Ryan's bogus vouchers.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@FDRfan
Your reference to Hitler immedialtly negated any credibility

The Republican House has done far more in the last two years to manage a budget than either Obama or the Democrat Senate.

Paul Ryan should be our next president

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"I listened to Ryan explain his budget and I was impressed with the thoughtfulness as well as the practicality"

Patriot.

Ryans budget lowers tax rates and intends to make up the difference by closing loopholes and deductions.

Did he name one deduction that would be lost or one loophole closed?

If not, how do you know it is practical?

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Paul Ryan should be our next president"

But Paul Ryan has no experience outside of being a politician. He has been working in Washington since he graduated college.

I thought that those on the right wanted someone with business experience.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

A new analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities underscores that the poor are no longer the primary beneficiaries of the government safety net. A new CBPP analysis of budget and Census data, shows that more than 90 percent of the benefit dollars that entitlement and other mandatory programs[1] spend go to assist people who are elderly, seriously disabled, or members of working households — not to able-bodied, working-age Americans who choose not to work.

People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9% of the benefits.
Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9% goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64.

African-Americans, who make up 22% of the poor, receive 14% of government benefits, close to their 12% population share.

White non-Hispanics, who make up 42% of the poor, 64% of the population, receive 69% of government benefits.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@JoeBlow
"But Paul Ryan has no experience outside of being a politician. He has been working in Washington since he graduated college."

Ryan has more experience than the current office holder did

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@patriot
"The Ryan budget eliminates the now 2 trillion dollar train wreck of Obamacare and proposes a NEW and improved patient centered healthcare reform package in its place. "

Actually it does no such thing. Ryan still keeps the 716 billion in Medicare cuts that was in Obamacare. then despite repealing the rest he still claims Obamacares' trillion in revenue. Somehow he claims this reduces the deficit by 1.8 billion despite the 716 billion not being a change compared to current law and the 1.1 trillion still being claimed despite him repealing that tax revenue. Then if he proposes something new that's a new cost.

EdGrady
Idaho Falls, ID

If Ryan's budget plan does balance the budget, it will do it on the backs of the middle class. I yearn for the old days when Republicans actually cared about the middle class.

m.g. scott
LAYTON, UT

No wait a minute all of you. The Republicans have not passed a budget. Just listen to Jay Carney and all the MSNBC talking heads.

OK, reality time now.

Re: FDRfan: Using Hitler to make a point about Republicans? Please.

Re: EdGrady: I don't think people like you and I need to worry about any SS/Medicare being taken from our generation. If Ryan and the Republicans tried to alter entitlements to people within a few years of getting those entitlements, it WOULD end the Republicans as a party. What needs to be done is adjust those programs for future generations, like people currently in their 30s or 40s. What is most amazing is only today in an interview with with George S on ABC, Obama said there is no immediate debt problem and the debt can be sustained for another 10 years. Does anyone believe it. Just how out of touch can this President be? In another 10 years at this rate out debt will be 30 trillion dollars. Let's get some adult thinking in the White House.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

The author very aptly described exactly what is happening plain and simple, "But this year's dueling GOP and Democratic budget proposals are more about defining political differences — as if last year's elections didn't do enough of that — than charting a path forward toward a solution. Congressional budgets often simply state party positions, and invariably are partisan endeavors."

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

I will say it again,

The GOP can pass any house budget that they want. And do so without a single Democratic vote.

That is what happened last time the Ryan budget came up in the house.

The senate cannot pass a budget without GOP support.

So, please don't make it sound like a big deal that the Senate hasn't passed a budget and the house has.

Ryan has again pushed a budget (actually, the same one) that will get zero Democratic votes. He knows that it has ZERO chance of passing the senate.

So, someone tell me exactly what that accomplishes. Do you call that leadership, or partisanship?

@counter

"Ryan has more experience than the current office holder did"

Such as? Name one job he has had.

Incidentally, since when did college law professor get declassified as a job?
Same with civil rights attorney.
Author?

Tell me again what Ryan's Resume consists of?

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