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  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 17, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    Cougars1:

    Yeah....that's what I thought.

    Case closed. You lose. That game was won in the 3rd Qtr.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 16, 2013 5:56 p.m.

    Cougars1:

    I can't hear you!

    I say again...How many points did Utah need to score in the 4th-Qtr to win that game?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 16, 2013 2:09 p.m.

    Cougars1:

    Okay then, how many points did Utah need to score in the 4th-Qtr to win that game?

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    March 16, 2013 11:59 a.m.

    Naval,
    Support what. I agree with points 1,2,3,and 4. I do not agree that the game was over in the 3rd quarter. that is where you fail by your own admission that the game is not over until the clock hits zeros.

    Utah has outplayed BYU for the last 3 years. Agree. BYU ended up having a better season than Utah last year. They went to and won a bowl game. Utah did not. Utah still outplayed BYU when they played each other. I have never said otherwise.

    Your spin is still old, tired, wrong and most of all, very boring.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 16, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    Cougars1:

    Not only did you fail to support your position in your last post, you couldn't.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    March 15, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    Naval,
    Not only are you wrong; your spin is old, tired, and boring.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 15, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    Cougars1:

    ALL games aren't "officially decided" until 0:00 on the game clock, but the truth is, Utah scored all the points they needed to win it in the 3rd. Ergo, the game was technically won then. The 4th Qtr was just a formality.

    Utah > Indy-WAC

    Get used to it.

    Jealous of the U:

    I already told you...

    (1) Lower SOS = more wins
    (2) More wins = higher ranking
    (3) The Y had consistently played weaker schedules since leaving the MWC than had the U
    (4) The U had consistently outplayed our Indy-WACey little brother in our head-to-head matchups to determine who was the better team.

    Everything else is just frantic and emotional spin.

  • Jealous U Alpine, UT
    March 14, 2013 4:09 p.m.

    navelvet

    Completely ignoring the rankings, except when it's convenient, doesn't change the fact that:

    2012
    #26 BYU(8-5) bowl winners > #61 PACyWACers(5-7) bowl no shows

    2011
    #25/#26/#34 BYU(10-3) > unranked/#39 PACyWACers(8-5)

    You'll forever live with the ignominy of knowing that your winless season against the WAC in their last season of football existence denied U a trip to a bowl.

    Get used to it!

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    March 14, 2013 12:11 p.m.

    Naval
    ""Fans rushing the field" is not what decides a game. The scoreboard at 0:00 does."

    And that says it even better than I could. The game was not decided until the clock hit zeros.

    I am beginning to think you lose any and all rationale when talking about BYU football, or you just don't know the first thing about the game.

  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    March 14, 2013 11:31 a.m.

    navelvet

    "if you want to point to Stephenson's missed FG late in the 4th,"

    Sorry PACy-WACer, it wasn't late in the 4th, it was the last play of the game, and the outcome of the game was still in doubt.

    The truth is, Riley's bobbled snap, Utah scoop and score, GAVE Utah the game.

    U didn't do anything on your own to deserve it.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 14, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    Cougars1:

    And lastly, if you want to point to Stephenson's missed FG late in the 4th, I could just as easily point to a 37-FG Utah missed in the 1st, and call that "anomoly" offsetting.

    Utah > Indy-WAC

    Get used it.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 14, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    Cougars1:

    "The game was not decided until the field goal was missed by BYU. As evidenced by the Ute fans rushing the field twice in the last few seconds of the game."

    Not so my frantic and emotional little brother. "Fans rushing the field" is not what decides a game. The scoreboard at 0:00 does. And that metric favors Utah. And since 22-pts was all that was needed to close down the Indy-WACers, Utah did in fact win that game in the 3rd-Qtr.

    And for what it's worth, had Stephenson's kick been true, that would not have decided the game. The game would have been decided in OT. But since the game didn't go into OT, Utah's final TD in the 3rd Qtr was what finally decided the game.

    Furthermore, Stephenson missed a 51-yd FG. That is not an anomoly. That penalty on Utah's fans was a bad call since your coaches were on the field as well, and neither group effected the outcome of the game. Stephenson missing a 36-yd FG is ALSO not an anomoly. He hadn't connected on a kick over 33-yds in his entire cougar career.

  • MUSSing with U Baltimore, MD
    March 14, 2013 9:09 a.m.

    Cougars1

    "why are Utah "fans" so obsessed with BYU's schedule?"

    Because three years after supposedly "leaving the Cougars in the dust", the PACy-WACers are still having nightmares about BYU stealing all of their big boy conference thunder.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    March 14, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    ekute,
    why are Utah "fans" so obsessed with BYU's schedule? You're not impressed with some team the Cougars will be playing in 5 or 6 years? I don't think anyone cares what your assessment of that team is. Besides, what does the Super Bowl have to do with any of this. Not one BYU fan said anything about Virginia being a powerhouse. Just a good game to have on the schedule.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    March 14, 2013 7:47 a.m.

    Naval, why are you so obsessed with all things WAC and all things BYU? Shouldn't you be commenting on Ute articles about their improving basketball team?

    You and Chris B sound a lot more like disgruntled BYU fans in a huff over the Big 12...

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 13, 2013 11:01 p.m.

    navelvet

    "There was nothing inaccurate about my claim..."

    A half-truth, my dear PACy-WACer, is the same as a whole untruth.

    The game wasn't decided until BYU's final FG try, with no time left on the clock, bounced off the upright.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    March 13, 2013 10:47 p.m.

    Another powerhouse football team on byu's schedule. Congratulations.
    After reviewing all them stats,rankings,ratings,etc. I'm convinced, byu will win the Super Bowl next year.(despite the head-to-head)

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    March 13, 2013 8:48 p.m.

    Naval,
    Nice try. Now you just sound frantic and emotional. The game was not decided until the field goal was missed by BYU. As evidenced by the Ute fans rushing the field twice in the last few seconds of the game. How many times during the year did Utah fans rush the field? Twice. Both times against BYU. Seems as though the fans are having a hard time putting BYU in the rear view mirror. That was their bowl game I guess.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2013 5:03 p.m.

    Cougars1:

    There was nothing inaccurate about my claim that the Utes beat our Indy-WACey little brother by the 3rd Qtr. We DID! We needed only 22-pts to win that game, and we put 24 on the board before the 4th. That's the cold hard facts.

  • scott Alpine, UT
    March 13, 2013 2:10 p.m.

    navelvet

    "Weak SOS = more wins.

    More wins = higher ranking."

    Sorry, that's not how it works; here are the correct formulas:

    Overall Record versus SOS = Ranking

    Higher Ranking = Better Team

    #1 Alabama > #5 Texas A&M (despite the head-to-head)

    #2 Oregon > #7 Stanford (despite the head-to-head)

    #16 Utah State > unranked BYU (despite the head-to-head)

    and since the polls only rank the Top 25,

    in Sagarin

    #26 BYU > #61 Utah (despite the head-to-head)

  • killarney Lincoln Park, IL
    March 13, 2013 1:48 p.m.

    naval vet

    "However, Utah's ineptitude of the 80s reversed by the 90s, and had regained the state's overall supremacy."

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but Utah hasn't had a single decade since the 60's in which the Utes had more Top 25 finishes than the Cougars:

    60's - BYU(0) Utah(1)
    70's - BYU(2) Utah(0)
    80's - BYU(6) Utah(0)
    90's - BYU(4) Utah(1)
    00's - BYU(5) Utah(4)
    10's - BYU(1) Utah(1)
    Total - BYU(18) Utah(7)

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    March 13, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    Eliot

    "Actually, when comparing two teams, the ultimate measure of success is head-to-head competition."

    Actually, that's not true. The ultimate measure of success is overall success.

    Worse teams lose to better teams all the time; that's why they call them "upsets"
    - see Utah versus Colorado 2011 or Utah versus UNLV 2007.

    Six of the last eight games being decided by a touchdown or less in the final minutes or in overtime is proof enough that neither team has been "dominant", but

    five Top 25 finishes to only three
    three Top 15 finishes to only one
    two undefeated conference championships to only one
    five 10-plus win seasons to only three
    eight bowl games to only seven

    is proof enough that BYU has been the better team overall during the Bronco/Kyle era.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    March 13, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    Naval,
    BYU still had the edge in the 90's. It wasn't until 2k that Utah regained supremacy. Yes, I said it. You can't call me a delusional Cougar fan. If Utah is better, then they are better. My only argument is that BYU had a better year last year than Utah. Utah needs to step up in the PAC or they will be no more relevant than Colorado, WSU, or any other team that continually finishes in the bottom half of the conference.

    You also stated on another thread that the BYU/Utah game was decided in the 3rd quarter last year. If you want any sort of credibility, you at least need to be honest with yourself. You might start by not being so obsessed with BYU while claiming that you are a "fan" of the Utes.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    Cougars1:

    I don't know why you're arguing a point about Utah's ineptitude back in the 80s. No Ute fans had been suggesting otherwise. However, Utah's ineptitude of the 80s reversed by the 90s, and had regained the state's overall supremacy. Pointing back to the 80s does nothing to refute that fact.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2013 12:47 p.m.

    mussingaround:

    Weak SOS = more wins.

    More wins = higher ranking.

    Utah had more wins and a higher ranking than the Y during our final season in the MWC because we played similar schedules. Then, in 2011 and 2012, we played a significantly stronger SOS, and subsequently lost more games. Conversely, the Indy-WACers played a significantly weaker SOS, and therefore, won more games. You guys like to hide behind your W/L record because you know that head-to-head, there's just no comparison. Edge: Utah.

    P.S.: When looking back at our common opponents these past few seasons, it's clear who was the better team. Obviously, the head-to-head appearances favor your big brother on the Hill, but our common opponents show our wins were no fluke. Over the past 3 seasons, Utah had gone 10-3 vs. common opponents. The Y had gone 8-5, and with one of those wins thanks to Chad Bunn. Edge: Utah. The margins of victory also favor the Utes by a total of 157-pts. There's no way to spin that.

  • Eliot Santaquin, UT
    March 13, 2013 12:33 p.m.

    Actually, when comparing two teams, the ultimate measure of success is head-to-head competition. Since Utah has pretty much owned BYU the last couple of years I think it would be well for Cougar fans to give their chests a rest for a while and stop thumping them until something changes in the fall.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    March 13, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    @navelvet

    What a frantic and emotional response.

    Who cares how many ranked teams the PACy-WACers have beaten, if you're not good enough to be ranked yourselves.

    As a PACy-WACer you're not even good enough to qualify for a bowl game every year, let alone be ranked. Compare that to your big brother who has already been ranked once and has played in a bowl game every year as an Independent.

    Actual results: (Coaches/AP/Sagarin)

    2011 #25/#26/#34 BYU(10-3) > unranked/#39 Utah(8-5)
    2012 unranked/#26 BYU(8-5) bowl winner > unranked/#61 Utah(5-7) bowl no show

    BYU has been a perennial Top 25 team since 1977 (18 Top 25 finishes in 35 seasons - over 50%)
    Utah has only been ranked six times during the same period (17%)

    Cherry-pick your highlights if it helps U sleep at night, but bottom line, overall records and rankings are the ultimate measures of success.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    March 13, 2013 11:46 a.m.

    Hey Naval,
    At least BYU teams were going to bowl games in the 80's.

    As for your comparison to the Vegas Bowl. Yes, there have been ranked teams in the Vegas Bowl. The difference is that those ranked teams in the Holiday Bowl played against a ranked BYU team.

    For fun, let's go with you and just say that the Holiday Bowl was just an also-ran in the 80's when they were tied to the WAC. Why didn't Utah go to that "no better than the Vegas" Bowl when they had the chance? Let me answer that. Because they were always in the basement of the WAC. The WAC!

    But, to help make your point(I can't believe I am doing this), if the Holiday Bowl was a better bowl than the Vegas bowl is now, it wasn't by much. Although, the Vegas Bowl has a ways to go just to match the payout of the Holiday Bowl then. By the end of the 80's the Holiday Bowl had a payout of $1.2 million per team. Today, the Vegas Bowl is at $1 million per team.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    talkinsports:

    How are we "no walk"? We've beaten more teams ranked in the Final polls than the Indy-WACers...both in the overall "W" column, as well as the overall W/L pct.

    "Not surprisingly, the vast majority of Utah's bowl wins occurred against mediocre teams beginning in the 90's."

    Yes, not surprising...because THAT's when we put McBride, Meyer, and Whittingham on the sidelines. Had we had coaches like that back in the 70s and 80s, we still would have played in the postseason. You guys peaked in the 80s, but got passed up by Utah, TCU, and BSU by the time the BCS-era took root. Now Utah and TCU are playing "big boy" football, and BSU has taken firm control of the reins as the top mid-major school in the country.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2013 11:21 a.m.

    bacWACn:

    "PACy-WACers"?

    What a desperate jab. Which teams in the Pac-12 left their conference(s) to play WAC football over these past 40-yrs? Any? Nope? I thought not. In fact, the Indy-WACers played 50% MORE teams playing in the WAC these past 2 seasons, than the entire Pac-12 COMBINED. How frantic and emotional of you.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    March 13, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    You're all talk, but no walk when it comes to ultimate bowl team success.

    SEVENTEEN of BYU's bowl teams (win or lose) have finished in the Final AP Top 25.

    only FIVE of Utah's bowl teams (win or lose) have finished in the Final AP Top 25.

    If Utah's bowl teams were even half as good as you pretend they were, more than five of them would have been good enough to be ranked in the Top 25.

    The truth is, with the out-of-control proliferation of bowls beginning in the 90's, bowl game winners are now a dime a dozen. Not surprisingly, the vast majority of Utah's bowl wins occurred against mediocre teams beginning in the 90's.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    Whatsnu:

    The Holiday Bowl didn't overtake the Sun Bowl in prestige until AFTER dumping the WAC. Prior to that, the Holiday took a distant backseat.

    "...many of the other minor bowls today that host mostly mediocre, unranked 5th and 6th place teams with 7-5 or worse records."

    Sort of like the 1984 Holiday Bowl dontcha think? An unranked, 6-5 Michigan team, who tied for 6th-place in the BigTen. Very Las Vegas Bowl-ish.

    So back to my original point to CougFaninTX...apart from the 1997 Cotton Bowl, there were no other major/upper level bowl games the cougars had played in, and the Holiday of the 70s, 80s, and 90s = the Las Vegas of today.

    "Compare that with the Holiday Bowl of the 80's, where Top 20 BYU teams regularly played Top 20 teams..."

    The Y played in 6 Holiday Bowls in the 1980s. Only 3 were vs. ranked teams (#20 SMU, #15 Penn St, #12 Ohio St). So if "half" means "regular", than that fairly well matches up with the current Las Vegas Bowl as well (#25 Cal & Ariz, #18 BSU, #9 BSU, #8 BSU).

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    March 13, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    @lint

    Remind us again which bowl the PACy-WACers played in last season.

    I know it's difficult for U to keep up with all of your spin, but the Final Coaches poll IS the OFFICIAL Final bcs poll for purposes of crowning the bcs champion.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    March 13, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    navel

    "That doesn't refute my point that the Holiday Bowl back in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s was no more prestigious than the Las Vegas Bowl now."

    Actually it does refute you point, since there were far fewer bowls in the 70's and 80's, the Holiday Bowl was much bigger than the Las Vegas, Sun, and many of the other minor bowls today that host mostly mediocre, unranked 5th and 6th place teams with 7-5 or worse records.

    Compare that with the Holiday Bowl of the 80's, where Top 20 BYU teams regularly played Top 20 teams like Ohio State, SMU (the Pony Express), and Penn State.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    March 13, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    @Naval

    So insecure and obsessed.
    Tedious, really.
    Your "False Bravado" has finally caught up with U.
    Get back to us when the U can post a winning season in football.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    backWACn:

    "...according to the 'official' final bogus championship series poll, the Coaches Poll..."

    As an Indy-WACer, you've never actually "been there" so I understand, you don't just don't understand. So allow me to explain it to you:

    (1) The Final BCS Poll is a separate poll from the final Coaches Poll. And that BCS poll is only produced to determine who will play in the five BCS bowls. After the bowl games have been played, there is no further poll updating the results.

    (2) The Final Coaches Poll is obligated* to vote for the winner of the BCS Nat'l Champion.

    (3) The AP poll USED to vote in the BCS, but withdrew itself due to their perceived lack of integrity. This did not invalidate that poll. It just meant that the BCS had to look for another polling institution...and in this case, they chose the Harris.

    (4) The AP poll is compiled by sportswriters...aka, folks who actually WATCH the games. The Coaches' poll is compiled by the "insterest-conflicted" coaches, who do NOT watch the games.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    TrueBlue:

    "Yet, BYU almost always played a very good, Top 20 team from a power conference in the Holiday Bowl..."

    That doesn't refute my point that the Holiday Bowl back in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s was no more prestigious than the Las Vegas Bowl now. The Las Vegas Bowl had hosted some Top-25 teams in their own right hosting at least one ranked team over the past 8 seasons, from #25 Cal (2005) and Arizona (2008) up to #8 Boise St (2011).

    "Except for two notable exceptions, Utah's bowl history is nothing but an endless parade of mediocre opponents including Utah's much ballyhooed Fiesta Bowl opponent."

    The U faces twice as many Top-10 opponents in our bowl games than the Y, and actually BEAT one. In fact, the Utes had beaten more Top-25 opponents in our postseason appearances than the cougars. Except for only ONE notable exception -- the 1997 Cotton Bowl -- the cougars don't have much to crow about either.

    Utah has been your big brother on the gridiron, in the postseason, AND in the recruiting wars. How miserable for you. Poor Indy-WACer.

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    March 13, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    "The only way a team "wins" a national championship is when the #1 team plays the #2 team."

    So how do you explain USC winning the 2003 national championship, since the Trojans didn't even play in the bogus championship game?

    It's laughable that when the kids on the hill cite Utah's 2004 and 2008 rankings, they always cite the poll that isn't even associated with the bogus championship series - in other words, the poll that determines its national champion in exactly the same way today, as it did when it was established in 1936, and incidentally, in exactly the same way it determined the 1984 national champion.

    btw, according to the "official" final bogus championship series poll, the Coaches Poll, the Utes only finished #4 in their greatest season ever.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    March 13, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    Naval Vet
    Philadelphia, PA

    Which bowl game were your fans super duper excited to play in this year?

    Clark W. Griswold
    Sandy, Utah

    Twist and turn to your heart's content, but the crystal 'ball in Provo looks pretty much like the ones in Alabama.

    And to concede a small point, no, Michigan would not have won the national championship. They would have defeated the number 1 team in the nation and denied THEM the national championship. Something that Bo Schembechler was positive they could do, and so very graciously proclaimed to the world that if BYU won that game, they would deserve to be national champions.

    Of course, he changed his tune after they lost. Actually sounded kinda like you.

    I have never liked Bo very much since then.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    March 12, 2013 11:20 p.m.

    clarky

    "The only way a team "wins" a national championship is when the #1 team plays the #2 team."

    LOL at your jealous, delusional, whiny spin.

    BYU was the #1-ranked team in the country (both major polls). Any team wanting to claim the championship had to go through BYU; unfortunately for U, Washington and Nebraska passed on the opportunity and BYU beat the only team brave enough to play the Cougars in the Holiday Bowl.

  • Clark W. Griswold Sandy, Utah
    March 12, 2013 7:26 p.m.

    @ Y Grad / Y Dad

    "The Holiday Bowl became a relevant and prestigious bowl game on the back of BYU. How many bowls can boast that the national championship was won on their field?"

    Don't kid yourself! BYU never "WON" a national championship,they were "VOTED" it. They're is a big difference between the two.

    Secondly you claim the Holiday Bowl was the sight where the national championship was won on the field. If that's the case, if Michigan (6-6) were to have won that game against BYU. Would Michigan be crowned National Champions in 1984? The answer is no! The only way a team "wins" a national championship is when the #1 team plays the #2 team. BYU played neither of the two. So that means they didn't win it!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 12, 2013 4:03 p.m.

    Y grad/Y dad:

    "In the 70s, playing in any bowl game was prestigious."

    Not bowls with WAC ties. And if the Fiesta Bowl was so "prestigious" back in 1974, why did it feature a 7-3-1 WAC team vs. a 6-5 SWC team? And you call THAT "prestigious"? No wonder your fans were super duper excited to play in the New Mexico Bowl.

  • Canyontreker TAYLORSVILLE, UT
    March 12, 2013 1:15 p.m.

    Like

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    March 12, 2013 11:45 a.m.

    Great games on the schedule.

    We're gonna beat these guys.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    March 12, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    Nice.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 12, 2013 9:03 a.m.

    Continuing their state champion ways--BYU is the "University of Utah".

    No amount of envy can change that.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    March 12, 2013 8:16 a.m.

    Ah, navel, once again your irrational loathing of all things blue is painfully obvious to everyone but you. The Holiday Bowl became a relevant and prestigious bowl game on the back of BYU. How many bowls can boast that the national championship was won on their field?

    In the 70s, playing in any bowl game was prestigious. Like today, some more so than others. Also like today, playing in ANY bowl game is more prestigious than playing in no bowl game at all.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    March 12, 2013 8:02 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    "And the Holiday Bowl didn't become an upper level bowl until after disassociating itself from the WAC."

    Yet, BYU almost always played a very good, Top 20 team from a power conference in the Holiday Bowl, a huge step up from the unranked, 5th and 6th place conference also rans that Utah has played in 90% of their bowls.

    Except for two notable exceptions, Utah's bowl history is nothing but an endless parade of mediocre opponents including Utah's much ballyhooed Fiesta Bowl opponent.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 12, 2013 8:01 a.m.

    Should be pretty neat.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    March 12, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    Just Smiling
    BOUNTIFUL, UT

    Getting REAL excited about a game against a team that went 5-7 last season.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 12, 2013 7:27 a.m.

    CougFaninTX:

    Back in the 70s, the Fiesta Bowl WAS a lower level bowl. And the Holiday Bowl didn't become an upper level bowl until after disassociating itself from the WAC. While tied to the WAC, it was no more prestigious than the Las Vegas Bowl is now.

    Don't make your bowl history out to be bigger than it really was. You had the Cotton Bowl, and that's it.

  • Just Smiling BOUNTIFUL, UT
    March 12, 2013 3:33 a.m.

    Anybody else having a hard time getting excited about a game against a team that went 4-8 last season?

  • byufan1993 Provo, , UT
    March 12, 2013 12:56 a.m.

    The Deuce

    I'm sorry but I respectfully disagree. Way too much knee jerk reaction going on

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    March 11, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    We should all be excited with the perceived improvement in the schedule for the Cougars. However, based uopn what we have seen the last couple of seasons, do you really think things are going to get better? The Cougars have not yet made the needed changes to move the program forward. Yes, there has been some window dressing. However, a large part of the problems from last year were based on poor decisions made by the head coach and others. While we all recognize that BYU is trying to improve their schedule, they still have not dealt with the real issues. Until the AD follows through on his comments to make major changes in the program, we will be right back here next year. It is time for a new head coach.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    March 11, 2013 9:29 p.m.

    flatlander - Mendenhall is 6 W and 2 L in bowl games. In Texas, that's 75%, not 40%. If you include the Lavell era, it is about 40%, but then you're including Fiesta, Cotton and numerous Holiday bowl appearances. Not sure those are lower level bowls.

    Assuming BYU gets 4 or 5 marquee games, like next year, Virginia is a good addition to the schedule. They are not Notre Dame, but they're a much better game than Idaho or Idaho St.

    Planning 8 years out, should result in a decent schedule.

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    March 11, 2013 9:25 p.m.

    Love the game in Virginia. Phenomenal stadium and experience. Time to schedule a game in the midwest: Kansas State, Tulsa, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Missouri State. Anything.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    March 11, 2013 7:23 p.m.

    I think it is a good match. Virginia goes to similar lower level bowls and has about the same winning percentage (40%) in them. The goal should be to schedule teams you will be competitive with so they are good games. Virginia is not top tier ACC and BYU wouldn't be either if they were in that conference. BYU fans back east get to see a good game. It beats playing Delaware.

  • GO_COUGARS! Provo, UT
    March 11, 2013 6:02 p.m.

    @Worf

    "Independence is great"

    Hahahaha!

  • caleb in new york Glen Cove, NY
    March 11, 2013 5:56 p.m.

    I hope Virginia is out of the ACC gutter by then.

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    March 11, 2013 4:08 p.m.

    A good quality addition. I wonder if BYU will still be independent in 2019 though. Maybe.....who knows.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 11, 2013 3:11 p.m.

    Independence is great.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    March 11, 2013 2:36 p.m.

    Another nice addition to BYU's future football schedules.

    Nice job Tom!