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Published: Saturday, March 9 2013 9:10 p.m. MST

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Duckhunter
Highland, UT

chris hill conducting an investigation into himself and his own athletic department is akin to the proverbial fox guarding the henhouse. What a joke.

TroyTown
Anaheim, CA

Linus

"Parents complaining when little Jimmy or little Mary is cut from the team, or when Coach is too hard on them, or when Coach speaks unkindly."

So now you're claiming that Dr. Hill fired Winslow for no other reason than some parents complaining about mistreatment of their little Jimmy or Mary???

I wonder how you'd react to having a long piece of PVC pipe taped along the length of your kid's back, having the pipe bound to his outstretched arms, and then having your kid forced to swim a series of underwater sprints until he blacked out because he couldn't breath.

I swam in high school and college, have been coached by coaches who coached Olympic swimmers, yet I've never seen this particular training "technique" employed.

In a word, it's ABUSE, regardless of how you want to characterize it, and those responsible for allowing this to happen at any institution should be fired.

dhsalum
Saint George, UT

@Linus and others saying this is just about disgruntled athletes and parents

You should read the Yahoo report before saying this is all about 'playing time' or 'not making the team'. I'm not saying every word of it is true, but these are not small accusations.

USAlover
Salt Lake City, UT

Aquatic version of Rick Majerus.

JDL
Magna, UT

After listening to Mr. Hill on a local radio station, I felt his comments and answers to questions were vague and came just short of "no comment". There were zero hard denials which to me is not a sign of confidence. Could be a seriously bad day and ugly black eye for the U if and when the allegations and coverup are proved correct.

Fashion Police
Olympus Cove, Utah

If he'd won a PAC 10.2 championship and taken the Utes to a runner-up finish at nationals, the Utes would have hung a Winslow banner in the natatorium instead of firing him.

That's just the way they roll up on the hill.

B C
Park City, UT

Duckhunter

"chris hill conducting an investigation into himself and his own athletic department is akin to the proverbial fox guarding the henhouse."

I wonder what Chris will do when he uncovers his own cover up?

CWEB
Orem, UT

The fact that Winslow is no longer going to be employed at the U, speaks volumes about what they already DO know...

If Winslow was accused in Arizona, what happened to THAT case? Why were charges dropped? And if dropped, why is he automatically dismissed at Utah, if there are not real reasons for doing so?

It does not look good from where we, the public, sit. This is not about sports...this is about abuse allegations, no matter what the surroundings are. So drop the BYU this, or the Utah that...this is purely about management and administrators, and teachers, and allegations of young people being preyed upon by adults, and those in positions of authority. Justice MUST be meted out.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

This is the obvious thing to do in this case isn't it? So why isn't it just as obvious that an independent investigator needs to be done for John Swallow and Lt. Gov. Bell? What a double standard!

JDL
Magna, UT

Oh Henry! What does John Swallow and Greg Bell have to do with u?

jimmypage
Meridian, ID

Can you imagine the outcry if someone tied a mesh sack and a PVC pipe to a dog or cat's back and then chucked that animal into a pool to watch it drown? A respectable human wouldn't treat animals this way! I read the Yahoo! sports report and it said that Winslow sat poolside and laughed as he watched these kids basically struggle for life. I'm sickened by the fact that this abuse was allowed to go on for years. Shame on Dr. Hill.

MurrayMike
Murray, UT

Boy, I wonder what the Pac-12 Conference is thinking right now? Bet Mr. Hill got a call from them on this. Chris hired the coach and from what I've read and just heard on the radio, he has ultimate responsibility. My guess is that he will fall on his sword for the University President. Swimmers and divers will be allowed to transfer without penalty. Its' going to be a mess, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Dr. Hill and the university haven't answered the two most important questions:

If, Greg Winslow didn't do anything wrong, why was he fired?

If, Greg Winslow did do something serious enough to be fired, why wasn't he fired sooner?

So far, the university hasn't given a straight-forward answer to either of these questions, and until they do, they're leaving the question of the lack of institutional control hanging.

This is going to get really ugly for the U if they continue their coverup.

Utah Alum
Orem, UT

Just released:

"The University of Utah announced Monday it is hiring a pair of outside investigators to review allegations of physical abuse and inappropriate behavior by the school's ousted swim coach.

The university already has said it won't renew the contract of suspended swim coach Greg Winslow based on allegations that he sexually abused a teenage girl he coached in Arizona six years ago."

Hopefully, we'll finally get some answers instead of stonewalling.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Sad to see these issues. I only hope this isn't systemic of "your tax dollars at work." Utah residents whose taxes support the institution deserve answers. At least it is now finally going to be investigated fully.

Dr Hill is in a bad position, at least in the press, because of the long time supposedly these abuses has transpired, without his taking action. However, keep in mind we DON'T KNOW THE FACTS and shouldn't rush to judgement. The truth will come out and then it will be time to pay the piper, so to speak. I can wait. I'm willing to see what transpires.

In the meantime, I wish the best to the Utes as they sort throught this tangled mess. No ill will from me about this situation.

MAFU
Salt Lake City, UT

The University of Utah Athletics Department does not receive any Utah Tax payer dollars. No need to worry about "your tax dollars at work."

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

@SportsCenter

Who said that we were buying into Dr. Hill's "embarrassing cover up" as you say? I have only said that Dr. Hill deserves due process. And how is it that you have all of the facts? You tell me to "come back when (I'm) more enlightened". Does that mean that you are the enlightened one who has all of the facts concerning what Dr. Hill knew in this situation? If you do, you should come forward with them!

PGVikingDad
Pleasant Grove, UT

So Dr. Hill promises to investigate his own *documented* egregious oversights? How reassuring.

SportsCenter
Olympus Cove, Utah

gored

It's laughable that the first comment on this thread was you passing judgment on "BYU-haters" before a single comment from a BYU blogger had been posted, yet you expect NOBODY to pass judgment on Dr. Hill until he's been given his "due process".

Where was your "outrage" about due process when Dr. Hill fired Coach Winslow?

We know this is embarrassing for U, but, this isn't a court of law.

What gives you the right to chastise other bloggers for not refraining from "passing judgment" until "all of the facts" are known? What if Hill NEVER announces any facts? Are we expected NEVER to pass judgment?

As another blogger posted, there are really only two questions that Hill needs to answer:

1. If, Greg Winslow didn't do anything wrong, why was he fired?

2. If, Greg Winslow did do something serious enough to be fired, why wasn't he fired sooner?

Regardless of the answers, Hill doesn't appear to have a legitimate excuse for waiting until March 2013 before firing Winslow.

phantomblade
Salt Lake City, Utah

MAFU

"The University of Utah Athletics Department does not receive any Utah Tax payer dollars."

Who pays to maintain all of the facilities used by Utah's athletics department?

Who pays for traffic enforcement and stadium security on game days?

Who collects student fees that are given to the athletic department?

The truth is, millions of taxpayer dollars are used every year to support the Utah athletics department.

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