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Published: Friday, March 8 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

It might be a good idea for that writer to read the Constitution. All bills dealing with finance originate in the House. The Senate may or may not ratify those bills. Refer to Article !, Section 7 of the Constitution: "All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."

If 2/3rds of the House can agree, the President and the Senate can roll around on the floor and have their tantrum. It doesn't matter. The PEOPLE's representatives decide how to spend the tax money that they collect from us - regardless of what the President demands or what the Senate would like to do.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.""

Why then do we constantly hear that Obama has raised your taxes?

"The PEOPLE's representatives decide how to spend the tax money that they collect from us - regardless of what the President demands or what the Senate would like to do."

And in the same vein, why does the right constantly blame Obama for spending and the increased deficit?

Tell me. Who is it that controls the house?

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The elected President of the United States, President Obama, is the only representative of the American people in our national government.

The Congress, made up of the Senate and the House of Representatives, are there representing their respective STATE governments. Most of whom no longer represent the people in their own states. Their collective purpose seems to be to weaken and destroy our national government and replace it with government by commercial corporations.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Doyle,
why, when talking about Boehner not being able to deliver on the deal in the house, do you neglect to mention schumer and reid telling BO NO!!!! when BO put the deal before them? It's not just the repubs in the house, but also the demonrats in the senate that get in the way of any deal.

Ultra,
No, with the 17th amendment, the states no longer have representation in the federal government. The house and senate represent the PEOPLE.

BO is NOT the representative of the people, he is the chief executive, elected to execute the laws put in place by the representatives of the people.

JowBlow,
by your logic, slick willy gets NO credit for the greatly reduced deficit we enjoyed in his final years; all credit goes to Gingrich and the repubs.

Of course you know there is negotiation between the branches of government. and in order to prevent a shutdown, the repubs had to agree to BO's increased spending and increased taxes. but you will note the deficit has REDUCED since the repubs took the house over what it was when the demonrats had control of the WH and both houses.

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

Cheap liberal power grab article.

The real story goes like this:

The republicans have been trying to negotiate a sensible solution with this president, but he just refuses to sign if he doesn't get his way, and then he tells Harry Reid not to bring anything to the senate floor that will embarrass him to have to veto. The republicans caved a little after the 2012 election, but they can now see that the president's plan has the car in the ditch just spinning its wheels in the mud. Democrats have no clue how to get it out of the ditch. They just keep the gas pedal to the floor burning up resources and getting nowhere.

So the republicans are now playing the part of the tow truck. They have taken the keys and are now doing what needs to be done to get back on the road and moving forward again.

I hope they won't give Obama the keys back under any circumstances.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

I wonder if the letter writer would be in favor of letting the Senate decide everything if the Republicans held a majority there instead of Democrats...hmmm?

Politics is dominating this debate with the President leveraging it to the max. The reason the two sides can't come together is because the GOP has constantly given in and gotten nothing in return. It is time for the left to give in by agreeing to real spending cuts now instead of phony "cuts" that are just reductions in increases spread out over the next decade (i.e. they will never really happen).

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Badgerbadger - let me see if I understand your logic. Someone says make me a steak, and i will eat it. the other party doesn't like steak, so they bake a ham, they refuse to make steak. Of course when presented, the person who asked for steak says they will not eat the ham, it wasn't what they ordered, oh and by they way, they don't believe in eating pork... it is against their beliefs.

Now in your scenario, the only person being inflexible is the person who ordered the steak. The person who made the ham instead stands blameless. They made a meal. Not the meal the other person wanted, but a meal none the less.

Now the person could have made lamb, chicken, or turkey, and they could have both dined together, Yes, both would have to compromise what they want, but neither would have been asked to do something they don't believe in.

But no, the House only serves Ham now. There is no compromise. And the person ordering, won't look at anything but steak. Someone is going to have to give.... but until one does,... neither gets anything.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Mr. Obama and the congress proposed and passed the sequester bill. Now they give the impression that it came from outer space. They all talk about financial responsibility, but no one wants to make critical decisions. The infirmary in our congress and the White House has treated more toe injuries from kicking the can than ever before. Democrats? Republicans? Tea Party? Occupiers? Stop the partisan finger pointing and address the critical issues.

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