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Published: Thursday, March 7 2013 2:59 p.m. MST

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JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

cmon MG.

Seriously.

Can any reasonable person read this

""So today, I state clearly and with conviction America's commitment and desire to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons."

Lets just say, that if in high school, you were told to paraphrase that sentence and you answered

"Barack has vowed to reduce the US nuclear arsenal to 0"

you would get an "F". The two statements are a complete disconnect.

Why the need to embellish?

I tell you what. I would be thrilled to live in a world without nuclear weapons.

And, If I were the president today, I would tell the world

"The US will NEVER, let me repeat, NEVER use our nuclear weapons offensively. They would only be used in response to a nuclear attack, or the imminent threat of a nuclear attack."

Maybe then, countries would not feel the need to acquire nuclear.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Just take out their military facilities! Easy solution.

We need grit, and backbone in Washington.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

A nuclear-free world is quite different from everyone else having nukes and reducing ours (the US) to zero. Talk about taking something and putting spin on it. I would hope that it is everyone's hope to have a nuclear-free world and a world of peace. Maybe not.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

"Just take out their military facilities! Easy solution."
- Worf

"For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution and it is always wrong."
- H.L. Mencken

"We need grit, and backbone in Washington."

There's very little backbone or grit involved in going to war. War is easy. Peace is hard.

Consevatives these days love talking about going to war but then neither offer to pay for it nor sign up their kids to go fight it.

It takes lots of brains, backbone and

aceroinox
Farmington, UT

I must say, I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you that North Korea is not heeding the sanctions placed upon them!!! Simply stunned.

kosimov
Riverdale, UT

To: Joe Blow
Re: "Why do you folks consistently go over-the-top."

I guess I am safe to say that you have a tendency to group together anyone who disagrees with you and address them as, say, "you folks". Or were you replying to someone in particular? I am not worried about what you think or say; you have the right to think and say what you wish - as do I. So, following your lead, I would say: "Why do 'YOU FOLKS' pigeon-hole those who don't march in step with you to the beat of some drummer somewhere, and make such broad, baseless remarks that they could apply to almost anyone anywhere?" You seem to do this quite a bit. I am absolutely sure that this kind of abrasive rhetoric is one big reason why we are all lashing out at each other instead of trying to understand each other and work out solutions to problems, rather than creating more and more problems with each remark. I am truly worried about the U.S. I like Obama as a person but he is not behind what is happening to us. He is being used by someone....

Jim
Mesa, Az

I can see the weather forecast for North Korea the minute they try it.......very flat glowing red, very cloudy and about 10,000 degrees.

Swiss
Price, Utah

Just keep selling arms to Japan and Taiwan. Japan probably has a better iron dome than Israel.We know they have better electric submarines than anybody in the world but the Germans. Now if China follows through and actually helps with the blockade we wont have to worry about North Korea.
Obama just has to do what he does best nothing.
Oh, I am sorry I didnt mean to call golf nothing:)

OCoug
Ogden, UT

Too bad all around. North Korea and every other nation could spend their resources and money on so many better things. But this is the world we live in and thus the reason we are wise to maintain a strong military.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

When North Korea vows to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the United States, too many people here assume that they mean "launching" a missile and hitting the U.S. mainland from North Korea.

North Korea's current missile technology is woefully inadequate to do that. However, that does not mean they can't accomplish their goal of attacking the United States. Here are at least two ways they can do it.

1. They launch a short range missile at one of our bases or military installations in South Korea. The U.S. currently has about 25,000 military personnel in South Korea.

Such an attack would likely leave tens of thousands of Americans dead.

2. They load a nuclear bomb on to a boat, falsify its flag and markings, and simply sail it to Hawaii or one of our ports along the West coast. With one of their short range missiles (60 mile range), they wouldn't even have to pull into the harbor. They could launch from more than 20 miles off-shore and we would never be able to stop it from devastating a large American city.

Never underestimate your enemy, remember what happened at Pearl Harbor?

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

@kosimov,

"I guess I am safe to say that you have a tendency to group together anyone who disagrees with you and address them as, say, "you folks"".
I honestly have no problem with those that disagree with me. There are many valid viewpoints. And there are many valid opinions.

The "you folks" I was referring to are those who take a statement and embellish it to make a point that was never intended. I call out erroneous statements put forth as fact, not erroneous opinions. I will try to be more specific in the future.

The concept that Obama wants to reduce our number of nuclear weapons to zero (as was stated) is not supported by the facts. One could easily make a case against reducing our weapons.

Notice how I included Obamas actual statement in my response?

Why not disagree with what he actually said, instead of making a hypothetical argument.

What I state as facts on this board, I research. And I look for reasonable sources. I hope others would do the same.

We can have productive discussions about actual policies, positions and opinions.

Lets stick to those and leave the unsupported partisan rhetoric out.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

And they wonder why other nations are allowed nucs, but they are not.not.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@patriot
"Reagan EXPLODED military spending along with upgrading our nuclear arsenal. If you actually spent 5 minutes doing research you would discover it. The USSR could not keep up with the US build up militarily and finally threw in the towel. Without Reagan doing what he did the USSR would never have collapsed when it did"

You're saying the USSR collapsed because we had a bigger pile of guns? No. They had an economic collapse and fell apart internally. Reagan's weapon supply had absolutely nothing to do with it. The notion doesn't even make sense.

@m.g.scott
Obama favors a world where nobody has nuclear weapons, not just getting rid of the U.S. ones and letting everyone else do what they want as you and patriot suggest.

Iron Rod
Salt Lake City, UT

And we worry about Iran? Which is the greater threat to the United States North Korea or Iran?

iron&clay
RIVERTON, UT

President Spencer W. Kimball back in 1981 changed minds in Utah about having an MX missile system deployed in our west desert.

I personally was being misled by politicians and the media at the time to think MX was needed.
After the 1st Presidency statement on the subject, I went from cold war military build-up enthusiasm to; let's build-up the missionary force for teaching love one another and sending volunteer Church aid to hungry of world with it's humanitarian programs. Aid goes directly to the hungry children suffering under collectivist dictatorships without regard to the countries erroneous governing philosophies which were causing the starvation in the first place.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

A false flag strike is more probable.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

I had hoped that Kim Jong Un would be more open minded and seek to lift his country out of poverty and away from belligerence.

I was wrong.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT
"Just take out their military facilities! Easy solution."
- Worf

"For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution and it is always wrong."
- H.L. Mencken

There's very little backbone or grit involved in going to war. War is easy. Peace is hard.

Consevatives these days love talking about going to war but then neither offer to pay for it nor sign up their kids to go fight it.

==========

Agreed,
as a Liberal - who is also a proud Veteran,
and is always willing to ponly up and pay higher taxes to pay for these stupid "wars" Republicans which they are always willing to start and never fund....

I also know for a fact that worf, patriot, J Thompson, Mike Richards, mountaman, RedShirt, wrz, L White, and Voice of Reason to name just a few -- are always the very 1st to want to start yet another war, have NEVER served in the military, and then complain about our national deficeit.

It's the #1 reason I have zero respect for their opinions about such matters...

worf
Mcallen, TX

@Blue--do some thinking.

We don't need troops going in, and we don't need to spend on re-building.--That's what liberals do, and it's costly.

A few missiles, and bunker busters will do the trick. Over, and done.

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

As someone with a degree in Korean and experience living in (South) Korea for a number of years, let me say that all this hooie in the US about N. Korea is so over blown that it is ridiculous. The US worries more about N.Korea than S. Korea does. This is beside the point, but I feel as well that all this "Smack Down" that the US government wants to do on N. Korea is unfortunate. You are picking a fight with a huge balloon. If you just leave it alone it will slowly deflate. If you keep prodding it, it will pop and we get hit with the shrapnel. Fix the US economy. Stop worrying about some guy 6000 miles away in a failing nation.

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