LDS charities leader to speak at U.N. event
Why am I not surprised?
With secular philanthropic organizations, I have no problem with them getting PR
mileage out of their charity work.But with a Christian organization,
it is directly repugnant to the teachings of their "Master".So either follow your Master, or jettison his outdated teachings, but remove
the hypocrisy one way or another.
Why shouldn't the LDS church get some mileage out of it charity work. I
see nothing wrong with it.Cmon people. Be objective. I am not a
member and certainly take issue with many LDS issues. But, who can knock them
for their charitable work.I do take exception with the moderators
though. Stick to the posted rules and let posts that don't violate them
through. That, or add some new rules.
Bullet56,At the risk of immodesty, my ward and stake have been very
actively and regularly involved in food drives, soup kitchens, Habitat for
Humanity, and trash cleanup in our local community.And absolutely
none of it has been accompanied by PR, press releases, bright t-shirts, or other
The Scientist ........Is there a difference between 'bragging' and
The LDS Church is to be commended on these humanitarian aid efforts.However, when reenie72 writes:"We don't brag about what
we do, or make a big deal out of what church we attend. We just get together
with others and help as much as we can. We don't ask what church people
attend. People are helped no matter what church they belong to..."...we can't help but be amazed. The Church "brags" about how much
it gives in humanitarian aid all the time, including a regular report on the
official website. And most LDS efforts I have seen (covered by major media
outlets, because the Church's PR machine makes sure it gets out), the
helpers are all wearing special, brightly colored T-shirts advertising the
Church to the world!So please don't try to tell us the Church
doesn't "brag". The Church's humanitarian aid is being done
everywhere EXCEPT "in secret"!
My husband and I are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
We have a stake, 7 active wards. Whenever there is a problem, storm, etc., or
someone needs help, members of the church will be involved in the group of
helpers and/or the one who called others to help. We work well with the
community and areas wherever they are. We don't brag about what we do, or
make a big deal out of what church we attend. We just get together with others
and help as much as we can. We don't ask what church people attend. People
are helped no matter what church they belong to.
@Bullet56: Just a few notes on your comment. You mentioned that charity begins
at home. This is one reason Mormons have programs to help their own members.
When a Mormon receives help from the Church, they do not have to rely on
community resources, leaving more for those without that safety net. However, the Church is worldwide, and so all of God's kingdom is home for
the Church. Mormons go where the need is greatest and that is often in
developing nations. They do a great deal here in the US for non-Mormons. I write
extensively on their efforts. They often go through other organizations, which
is why you don't always hear about it. As an example, I've written
about money donated to a detox center in Utah, 2000 pounds of food donated to a
food bank in Illinois, supplies given to abused children in Houston...there is a
long list, but usually given to another organization to distribute.
To those who feel they have not seen L.D.S. church members help Non L.D.S. you
should ask those of us who suffered through Katrina, Sandy, and recently Nemo.
More food, water, and help went to so many. There are not a lot of members among
the millions of us on long island so the church sent people from Ohio,
Pennslyvania, even from Canada on buses to help with the Sandy cleanup. They
wear yellow vests and are always there to help in emergencies. Also they help
with shelters all over the United States Anonymously. I have friends in
California who did not know that certain shelters and battered women shelters
are only open because the church has provided food, water, blankets, and help
others get back on there feet. So just because you don't know what the
Mormon church does behind the scenes,does not mean it is not going on.
I remember going on a tour of the LDS Humanitarian Center in Salt Lake. I
don't know if they still offer the tour. It was quite an education for me
to view what the LDS church provides for others all over the world. If the tour
is still available I recommend it.
Our Stake organized countless members who traveled 900 miles each way to Minot,
N.D. after the flood devastated that city in summer, 2011. That is how my own
labor day weekend was spent. My personal reward was the T-shirt which I treasure
plus the wonderful feeling of serving others who were in dire need. Not one of
all the homes our crew cleaned up was owned by a member of our faith. This story
is clearly not unique to any disaster as so many will attest. Work orders were
freely given regardless of where these needy folks worship.
To "Truthseeker" Remember about 15 years ago when the tornado went
through Salt Lake? Of the dozens of families that had the roofs ripped off
there were only 1 or 2 families that needed the shelter.How about
the big winds of 2011 when the winds uprooted all the trees and the LDS church
in most areas cut their meetings short on a Sunday and told their members to get
the tree limbs cleaned up because another storm was on its way. Entire
neighborhoods rallied together (regardless of membership in the LDS church) and
cleaned up the tree branches.The truth is that most of charity from
members in the LDS church comes in the form of neighbors taking care of the
needs of their neighbors. From shoveling sidewalks to mowing lawns to helping
where help is needed. It is just that most LDS members don't announce to
the world what they are doing.
re:Obama10At least on the local level, most LDS charity goes to LDS
members. Therefore, it is invisible to non-LDS. (It is difficult for
Utahns--where the LDS church has a large presence--to understand and acknowledge
that fact). However, some other churches have ongoing programs to assist the
needy without regard for church affiliation. Some churches serve daily meals to
the homeless others may offer temporary nighttime shelter. When there was a
crackdown here on people who lacked homes and were living in motorhome/campers
parking along streets, some churches offered space in their parking lots.
@bullet56 Most of the LDS Church's charity is invisible. How would you
ever know the single mother/widow/unemployed father who is helped through fast
offerings at the Ward level paying bills or receiving food from the
Bishop's storehouse. Most of the LDS Church's charity is invisible be
design. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't
Just look at the two top Democrats in the White House and add up their combined
donations to see what "by example" means to them.
It is said that Charity begins at home. In my little community the LDS Church
and outreach is invisible. If the church is helping Americans who are not of
the church, I don't see it.
dave4197:The Tea Party is a subset of the Republican Party - which
traditionally gives individually 20X to charity what the Democrat Party
gives.So the Tea Party is putting their money where their mouth is -
they just don't think it should be Government's job or paid for purely
out of taxes that are poorly administered and go to wasteful overhead.
@A Voice of Reason--I think you may be missing the point. Ms. Hudson is
referring to nations and cultures where women are basically chattel. Their
husbands or fathers can do with them as they please, sometimes including
horrible abuse, beatings, death, etc. In some cultures it is forbidden for women
to attend school, or even study or read.So don't go off on some
tangent about the dangers of "putting women in power." It's about
gradual, subtle changes in culture which over time will allow women to be
empowered with agency, as opposed to being slaves.
My input (regarding Ms. Hudson's quote):First, consider the LDS
Church: the Priesthood and Relief Society are a great example of how men and
women lead separately and collaboratively; in both they accomplish great
things.---Anyone can subordinate. It is self-evident
that good and evil exist and dwell in men and women alike. Simply putting women
in power doesn't necessarily improve anything. Some feminists promote moral
decay that no nation will thrive with.Consider a million dollars
left alone. Which guy will steal it? Adding women is no different. Just like
men, women are tempted by evil. Different things appeal to men and woman, but
both still have agency to do right or wrong. Moral choice respects no one.---We should be focusing on which things men and women
should have authority on. That may sound less than politically correct- but in
many ways we are different. We should utilize our differences, not deny them.Where can women most effectively contribute? Where for men? Both in
collaboration? It isn't enough to say "give women power". We must
ask "What powers can women/men do the most good with?" The most
effective system must account for this.
re:budhenson"From assistance provided in the wake of the devastating
December 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami to the emergency relief responses following
the May 2006 Indonesian earthquake, the LDS Church and Islamic Relief have
proved to be provident partners."(Deseret News Aug. 2009)
The Islamic world will surely take not of the following phrase: "The church
as an institution has as one of its four pillars the charge to reach out and
care for the poor"
@dave4197 you completely miss the ball with your "Tea Party" comments.
Is the LDS church a government agency? The Federal Government has had its
"war on poverty" for 60 years and has no discernible effect on poverty,
except to make it worse. This is the perfect example of what the "Tea
Party" and others claim as examples, that charities can and do better at
helping than the Federal Govt.
A good story about a good program. Good to learn that this helping people
program is and has been focusing on women and children and their basic needs
like clean water and food ready to eat. Tea partiers take note, this is the
type of help we well off citizens need to give our less fortunate neighbors, tea
partiers want to reduce the cost of helping the poor which ignores the root
problem and takes our eye off the ball. tea partiers need to get behind helping
the poor and raising the poor out of poverty, using our ample resources more
wisely. Wisely and tea party are not words I use together often, I'm
waiting for the tea party to stand up and help. The church and its program is
not waiting, it's out there helping and focusing on root problems and
evaluating how to do better. Congrats to LDS Charity. I'm ready to join
this effort with more than donations, now that I'm old, I'm working
less, but I'm not yet worthless.(old) Dave in Redding . . .
Service is the "Pure Love of Christ". Thanks.
Incredible effort that also reflects intelligent, co-ordinated people serving
others in Christ-centered fashion. Surely the world cannot but applaud the
Works of the Latter-Day Saints. If all mankind were "Mormons" we could
indeed have a Heaven on earth. I am impressed as to how much this humanitarian
service adds to, blesses the lives of those who give, reflecting the
Savior's axiomatic teaching that he/she who would save themselves must
forget self & serve others; here we see all the world benefitted by