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Published: Wednesday, March 6 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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JACC
Bluffdale, UT

Good article. I've been close enough to Republican party politics to be absolutely appalled and dismayed by what I saw. I'd love to have other alternatives to vote for.

The big problem for me and, I believe, the majority of Utahns, is that the Republican party platform more closely represents my view of good government than the Democrat's platform. Every election I am forced to choose between political practices I don't like and political philosophies I don't like. Since I personally believe that the philosophies are more important than the practices, I usually hold my nose and help vote the same scoundrels back into office.

Voice of Reason
Layton, UT

As a conservative Republican, I actually agree that my party has had too much power for too long in Utah. That doesn't mean I agree with the Democrat party's positions - mostly I don't - but government only improves when there is a credible opposition party; then both parties are much more effective at keeping each other in check.

This past year, I went to my GOP party caucuses for the first time. And far from being a "we all agree" or groupthink exercise, there was serious and lively debate going on between to broadly different philosophies - one more Tea Party right-wing, and the other more moderately conservative. During the meetings, in the hallways during breaks, people were debating the issues constantly. It was then I realized that the real elections between the two main schools of thought in Utah were going on in the GOP caucuses, not in the general elections. So there still is debate going on, but Utahns simply do not broadly support the Democrat party enough because the Democrat philosophy is outside the mainstream in Utah. Ideally, the Democrat Party here would more closely reflect Utah values, which it doesn't to most Utahns.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@Open Minded Mormon
"...and don't look now, but Utah-liban is leaning and headed that way"

That is an incredibly closed-minded thing to say.

I agree with 'Voice of Reason' "the real elections between the two main schools of thought in Utah were going on in the GOP caucuses"

The extremism of the national Democratic Party poisons the well for moderate Utah Democrats (who have their own history of religious intolerance that, to his credit, the new chair is at least attempting to address), but many Utah Democrats still play Ostrich to that reality. People will stop voting for Republicans when given a valid reason not to. So far they don't have much. Democrats can call themselves moderate all they want, or demand that Jesus was a liberal (when, based upon voting patterns, most religious voters don't agree that he would be a political liberal) or hope Republicans implode with scandal - but that is still NOT a reason to vote FOR a Democrat.
Until Democrats in Utah decide to become relevant, the two party system will continue to be played out in the Republican primaries.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"The extremism of the national Democratic Party poisons the well for moderate Utah Democrats (who have their own history of religious intolerance that, to his credit, the new chair is at least attempting to address), but many Utah Democrats still play Ostrich to that reality. "

I would say this is probably an accurate statement. I have ended up in neither party because I can't align with either, since neither has a strong moderate side to themselves anymore. I would love to see a ballot that didn't off party line voting, and in fact, didn't list the candidates party at all.... that you had to actually know who you were voting for based on their platform.

I don't like term limits. We have a choice every 2, 5 or 6 years. If the process is corrupt, then fix the process. But to kick good people out because of a time limit, I don;t see that driving much good. Term limit is just a career path to becoming lobbyist. We don't need more of them.

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

So, then, limited power corrupts limitedly?

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