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Published: Friday, March 1 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

Although I agree with the office, using a phone is wrong while driving. I completely disagree that the officer should be able to pull me over and ticket a person for that offence.
Why doesn't this officer pull people over if they fit the bill for reckless driving, end of story.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

The answer to Midvaliean is, because distracted driving is up to 10 times more hazardous than drunk driving, and takling on a cell phone is obvious. If drunk driver was obvious before they did somehting hazardous it would make sense to pull them over also..it just isn't, unfortunately. Texting is obviously worse than talking, but distracted is distracted.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

It is ridiculous to enact lgislation only for teen drivers. I've seen retirement age folks swerving (gradually) while talking on the phone.

CA has a law prohibiting talking and texting on a cell phone but I see many drivers ignoring the law.

Christian 24-7
Murray, UT

The ones I see weaving in and out, going 50 in the fast lane on the freeway, while having a lengthy conversation, are men and women in their 30's and 40's dressed in business attire. These people are not impaired by old age, or inexperience of youth. They are impaired by selfishly talking on the phone, period.

I have heard the Utah legislators say they want to protect the rights of those who do business by phone in the car, but I say protect the lives of the general population, and let business folks pull over to conduct their business on the phone.

And to you business callers/drivers, you are not only endangering yourselves, but everyone else on the road, and killing people is bad for business.

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Our legislators need to face reality about distracted driving. Enact a bill that protects those who don't phone/text and drive. Driving is a privilege that is granted by the state subject to restrictions and qualifications, not a constitutional right. Stop confusing texting while driving with gun rights.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

Geez Midvaliean, I don't think I should be pulled over for running a red light either even in the interest of public safety. I watch 2 or 3 flagrant violations each and everyday I commute through your fair city. I have more close calls driving to work from a cell talker than drunks so what should we do about that? Give you a pass?

wrz
Pheonix, AZ

Dear Emeritus Provost, did you forget that speeding (not using cell phones) causes the most deaths on the highways? I have a feeling you were one of the patrolmen who sat on the side of the road watching speeders whiz by.

Furthermore, what if I reach for my radio button to tune in to O'Reilly or Hannity? How would you rate that?

As for seat belts... usage is good. But, what about requiring everyone in the vehicle to wear crash helmets or full body air bubbles? Why stop at just seat belts?

wrz
Pheonix, AZ

@Truthseeker:
"It is ridiculous to enact legislation only for teen drivers."

You got that right... but for a reason you're likely not thinking of... The US Constitution's 'Equal Protection' clause. Any law should apply to all equally. Otherwise legislators are fostering discrimination.

"CA has a law prohibiting talking and texting on a cell phone but I see many drivers ignoring the law."

Hmmm... do you see folks ignoring the speed limit laws?

@Christian 24-7:
"The ones I see... going 50 in the fast lane on the freeway..."

There's no such thing as a fast lane on the freeway. Where you getting this stuff?

Christian 24-7
Murray, UT

wrz-

I realize Phoenix has severe traffic issues and going anywhere fast is a challenge.

In Utah, we have a great freeway system with 6 lanes in places. The lane nicknamed "the fast lane" is the one next to the carpool lane, or the leftmost lane if there is no carpool lane.

But it may lose its title to those sections of freeway in rural Utah where you can now legally go 80 mph.

Happy driving!

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

Wait! Utah has not mandatory seat belt law? What about all those "Click it or ticket" signs?

wrz
Pheonix, AZ

@Darrel:
"Wait! Utah has no mandatory seat belt law? What about all those 'Click it or ticket' signs?"

Tickets for non seat belt use applies only to 18 yo and younger. For adults it's a secondary violation. You have to be retained for another traffic violation first. See Utah Code 41-6a-1803(4).

@Christian 24-7:
"wrz- I realize Phoenix has severe traffic issues and going anywhere fast is a challenge."

Phoenix? Who lives in Phoenix? I live in Schenectady... and sometimes in Ogden... and Tucson.

"In Utah, we have a great freeway system... The lane nicknamed 'the fast lane' is the one next to the carpool lane..."

It's not a fast lane... it's a passing lane for passing only. If you're not passing, you shouldn't be in the lane. If you think you need to get in the passing lane to drive fast you become a law breaker. And, if you're a member of a dominant Utah church you are also in violation of one of it tenants... something about 'obeying, honoring and sustaining the law.'

"Happy driving!"

On Utah highways it's never 'happy.'

Christian 24-7
Murray, UT

wrz
Pheonix, AZ

"Phoenix? Who lives in Phoenix? I live in Schenectady... and sometimes in Ogden... and Tucson."

Oh, so you lied about where you live! Or should we try to see you in a kind light and assume you took an average, or used to live in Phoenix?

If it is a passing lane, by my first post, how does one pass anyone on a Salt Lake City freeway going 50? It would be like a tortoise passing cheetahs.

You really don't know Utah law. It is not a passing lane. Look on the Utah State Legislature website at Title 41 Chapter 6a Section 702. No passing requirement on roads with 3 or more lanes going the same direction. I specified 6 lanes, so I think I am covered.

I do have happy driving on the freeways, except when I have to move through the masses of traffic in lanes to the right to get on or off, or when someone is weaving and going fifty in the left lane.

Is that you doing that? Is that why you got riled over my post?

one old man
Ogden, UT

Could it be that some of our lawmakers are afraid they might have to hang up and drive?

wrz
Pheonix, AZ

@Christian 24-7:
"Oh, so you lied about where you live!"

I never lie. I travel alot.

"If it is a passing lane, by my first post, how does one pass anyone on a Salt Lake City freeway going 50?"

It's not complicated... move to the right or left lane and pass. Passing on the left on the freeway is OK, right?

"You really don't know Utah law."

I know this: Driving over the speed limit is against the law... as is tailgating and reckless weaving in and out. You don't do those things, do you? Be honest.

"I do have happy driving on the freeways, except when I have to move through the masses of traffic..."

Moving through masses of traffic could be described as 'reckless weaving.'

"Is that you doing that?"

I drive the speed limit, never over. Even in the HOV. Occasionally, someone will come up behind me and tailgate in the HOV, seemingly wanting me to get out of his way. I say cross the double white and be on your way. If it's OK to break the speed limit, it surely must be OK to violate HOV rules.

Christian 24-7
Murray, UT

wrz

You talk in circles.

People going 50 should not be in the "passing lane" because they will not be passing anyone.

Go ahead and con-volute that one too.

Exits and entrances are on the right. Oh yeah, you chopped that part out of my post to intentionally take it out of context. I guess by your standards all we need is 1 lane, because no one is allowed to move to the left lanes ever, or you accuse them of weaving. No worries about anyone breaking the limit either. We will all have to go as slow as the cell phoner.

I sure am glad you are not the one making and executing the laws. You have some pretty far out ideas. But hey, go ahead and keep talking on that cell phone while you drive nothing over the limit in the fast lane, or passing lane, and feel really righteous about it. You are helping others be as righteous as you. I am sure you will walk with a clear conscience knowing the stupid thing you were doing was legal, when you make someone a widow (like my friend) while talking on your phone.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Require Electronic devise ignition interlocks for cars with person observed turning a corner with one hand and phone in the other hand. Why not get rid of speed limits totally? Driving fast requires two hands and focus on the road.(especially if road raged person probably carrying a gun is involved). Teenagers will be better drivers gunning it around person wobbling down the road talking on cell phone.

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