I am shocked, SHOCKED to find that there are corrupt Republicans in this
OH NO,Another liberal media hit piece concerning Republican John
Swallow.I believe that this is the 673 strait day of coverage on
this story. Had Swallow been a democrat, we would not even know
about it.(and yes, I often use sarcasm)
Joe Blow-That's ridiculous to assume Utah's Attorney General
would be a Democrat. Let's keep the debate within the guardrails of
But ethics are not part of the Utah Values we keep hearing about. (At least not
on the GOP side.)
On the subject of legal versus ethical, perhaps a comparison between John
Swallow and Bill Clinton is in order. As I understand the situation, what
Swallow did was within the bounds of the law, but was probably not ethical. To
use a common term, it doesn't pass the "smell test." Now consider
Bill Clinton. What he did in lying under oath in a court of law was most
assuredly ILLEGAL. His other actions with Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers,
et.al, may have been illegal but were surely unethical. Will John Swallow keep
his job? Time will tell. Did Bill Clinton keep his job? Yes, and he remains a
pillar of the Democrat Party. That says a lot.
As much as I hate to say this, I'm afraid I have to agree with JohnH.On the other hand, we had another administration that lied to us, took
us to war, put it on the credit card, destroyed our economy and made a real mess
of things. I'm afraid that when it comes to American politics there is
more than enough sleaze to go around.
So what if the concepts of illegal and unethical are not co-extensive.
Utah's AG should act legally and ethically. Swallow did not.
Good to see people expressing disgust with unethical behaviors of all stripes. I
wrote to Bill Clinton and told him to resign when we found out about Monica.Now then, what say you folks about the way Utah got the 2002 Winter
Olympics?How about UDOT's $13 million hushmoney payout to an
angry losing bidder?How about the legislature's standing
ovation for the legislator who went hot-tubbing with a 15 year-old girl?I'm all for a strict code of ethics enforced equally and regardless
of political parties. In this state, however, it seems the magical "R"
by your name provides a level of immunity to serious criticism of unethical
So much indignation and pointing across party lines, so little self assessment.
Ethics are conditional, illegal is statutory. What is ethical in Chicago may not
be in Utah. The allegation that ethics are not part of the GOP (or the Dems if
you are on the other side) is ridiculous and only further polarizes an already
blindly partisan electorate.
Casual observer, may I say that ethics SHOULD NOT be optional. Unfortunately,
that seems to be true in too many situations. And it seems that the more power
a person possesses, the more ethically challenged most become.
Add this problem to the long list created by our current legislature: It
vigorously resists significant ethics reform, promotes secrecy, runs the state
through closed Republican Legislative Caucuses, allows unlimited campaign
donations, loves to run corporate-sponsored A.L.E.C. bills, writes new laws to
restrict public input through initiatives and referendums, fires
whistle-blowers, and dares to openly declare that we are not a democracy.