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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 27 2013 9:30 a.m. MST

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BlueNtheFace
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

The only thing the Utes have on BYU is conference affiliation. We landed our non-football sports in the WCC, a few steps down from the PAC-12. But at least we're not the pond scum of the conference. Congrats Utes! Be proud.

BlueCoug
Orem, UT

Skywalker

"If BYU hadn't been upset by Long Beach St 95-90 in OT in the Sub-Regional held in Pocatello, after leading by 20 at the half, BYU's Kresimir Cosic might have faced UCLA's Bill Walton in the Marriott Center in the Elite Eight."

I attended every game and BYU's 95-90 overtime loss to Long Beach St was the most exciting game played in the West Region in 1972. Both teams were ranked in the Top 10. Ironically, the 49ers' exciting win over BYU was later expunged along with all of their other games from their 1971, 1972, and 1973 NCAA tournament appearances because of NCAA violations - Jerry Tarkanian was 49ers' coach.

Weber State destroyed #12 Hawaii 91-64
#6 Long Beach St stomped San Francisco 75-55
#1 UCLA annihilated Weber State 90-58
#1 UCLA handled #6 Long Beach St 73-57

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Chris - U forgot a couple.

Most losses - Utah

Lowest ranked in their conference - Utah

No post season play for football, basketball or baseball - Utah

Three of top four top players leaving basketball team after this year - Utah

No marquee players in the pipeline - Utah

But U are not alone in this last one -
Teams in Utah who lost to BYU - Utes, Aggies, Wildcats

There is so much more to be proud of that U forgot to mention.

moderateinmagna
MAGNA, UT

well chris b your Utes would lose to every team in the WCC but they would lose by 200 points to Gonzaga, so your point is moot ,your hate and envy is showing, Gonzaga would trounce every team in your precious pac10,2 by more than 20 points The way your Utes are playing right now they would have a hard time beating the Ute womens team.

killarney
Lincoln Park, IL

Frankly, Chris B should be embarrassed for even trying to compare that pathetic train wreck on the hill to BYU.

BYU leads the overall series 129-125, has won 7 straight, and 11 of the last 12

Average score last 12 games, BYU 74 Utah 62, including three straight 20-point blowouts at the HC

During the Dave Rose era

BYU 205-63 (77%) 8 straight 20+ win seasons, 6 NCAA tournaments, 4 conference championships
Utah 112-134 (46%) 6 losing seasons, 1 NCAA tournament, 1 conference championship

2013 RPI Rankings/Records

#60 BYU (20-9)
#175 Utah (11-15)

agb
Layton, UT

Chris B:

Most come from ahead losses: Utah

Six losing seasons in 8 years: Utah

Team most likely to have as many transfers as wins: Utah

Most embarrassing loss: Utah

The future of basketball in Utah looks pretty bleak for: Utah.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ moderateinmagna

Utah is ranked 137, ahead of five WC teams. Utah is bad, but it would still be in the top half of the WCC. Also Gonzaga is good, but they are far from invincible. In fact they already played Washington State and managed to win by a whole two points. I doubt the Zags would be able to navigate a full PAC-12 schedule without taking a couple losses. Lastly, in Utah's previous three games the Utes beat a team ranked in the top 100 (something BYU has not done), lost to a top 10 team by four, and lost to a top 50 team by 10 on the road. There is no need for hyperbole.

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

2fer

In RPI, Utah is ranked #175, BEHIND

#10 Gonzaga
#45 Saint Mary's
#59 BYU
#92 Santa Clara
#161 San Francisco
#169 San Diego

The Utes would be in the bottom one-third of the WCC, ahead of

#199 Pepperdine
#224 Portland
#247 LMU

In the state, the Utes are also way behind

#103 Utah State
#106 Weber State

Lets also not forget that the Utes LOST to

#187 OSU
#192 WSU
#220 SMU
#223 CSN
#284 Sac St

More than half of Utah's paltry NINE Div 1 wins came against RPI 150+ teams

#166 Wright St
#220 SMU
#271 Cent Mich
#290 Texas St
#339 Idaho St

The truth is,

Utah's bad losses far out weigh Utah's good wins, which is reflected in Utah's #175 ranking.

Utah would be a bottom dweller in the WCC, just like they are in the PAC 10.2.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Gonzaga would win the PAC 12 and it wouldn't even be that close. They may lose a game, or possibly two, but they are a lot better then Arizona, Oregon or UCLA.

cush81
Fairfax, VA

Striker, I do think BYU is better than USF and USD. However, there are 2 advantages those teams had over BYU. Gonzaga had lost 3 straight in San Francisco, so that place was in the head of the Zags. The difference this year was when it seemed like everything started going USF's way, Gonzaga kept their heads down and played their game. In the end, the game wasn't as close as the score might indicate. As for San Diego, if there's a coach out there who knows Gonzaga, it's Bill Grier. He was Few's right hand man for years before taking that job. He knows all of Few's moves, it's just whether or not he can stop Few's superior talent on the floor

cush81
Fairfax, VA

As a Zag alum and fan, this game does scare me. Personally, I think it's harder to play in the small barns like at SMC then the big ones, but the truth is that Gonzaga hasn't won yet at the Marriott Center, and they played horribly there last year. If they lose tonight, the place will probably be in their heads. Gonzaga has played amazing basketball 3 of their last 4 games, so I think they should win tonight. But I've been around long enough to know that road games in the WCC don't come easy, no matter how inferior the opponent may seem. If this is a blowout, I will be surprised. I have a lot of respect for BYU and their program. I hope they stick around in the conference, because it's fun to have another solid program on the schedule

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@cush81

Great post and spot on! Amen Bro!

GO ZAGS!

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

cush81

It's nice to see a Zags fan checking in. Should be a fun game tonight.

Go Cougs!

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

As a BYU fan, I'd love to see BYU pull off the upset tonight, but in the overall scheme, it could be in BYU's best long term advantage for the WCC to have the #1-ranked team heading into the NCAA tournament as a #1 seed and making a deep run in the Big Dance.

Either way, the Marriott Center will be rocking tonight, and BYU is certainly capable of pulling the upset if they get hot from the outside and their big three all have great games.

cush81
Fairfax, VA

@Rockwell

Nice to see there's at least one other person who will be burning the midnight oil for tonight's game.

When I moved here, I was surprised with how many Gonzaga Alum live out here. Considering the difference in school size, I can only imagine how many Cougs call DC home

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

cush81

BYU has a large alumni association in the DC Metro area. In fact, a recent survey of fans showed that BYU is in the top 20 most popular teams in Washington, D.C.

royalblue
Alpine, UT

The Zags have one of their best teams ever and BYU is in a bit of a re-building season, but I'm still looking forward to a great game. Tonight is the WCC's time to shine in the national spotlight.

Even our friends from the hill are more intrigued by BYU hosting the #2 Zags, than their own game against another team on the west coast.

fireonthemtn
Reno, NV

I'm looking forward to the Olynyk/Davies matchup, only to be surpassed by the spasmodic outbursts of fouls, turnovers and poor shot selection by Carlino...

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

Word is there are now more than 70 tents filled with BYU students waiting in line at the Marriott Center for tonight's game against #2 Gonzaga - based on past experience, you can figure at least 10 students per tent when the tents come down and the line forms before the doors are opened.

The excitement is starting to build for a rocking Marriott Center crowd.

Go Cougs!

HighlandsHome
Highland, Utah

Any chance we could get the BYU commits from Lone Peak to play in this game? Then we might have a chance.

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