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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 27 2013 12:22 a.m. MST

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JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

Re @ Mussing w/U Are you serious? Did you really ask "If no stars have been awarded, how did Whittingham know that Frison was any good?" Do you really not understand recruiting services?

Coaches have been watching kids for 3 years or longer by the time they get to be seniors. BYU and Utah both have a good handle on local talent and if they think a player is good enough they offer him a scholarship. What a scouting service thinks doesn't matter if a player is a known product.

As for STARS in December, players who currently are listed as NR simply have Not be Rated. It does not mean that they have no Stars. If you're going to comment on recruiting it might help to understand how it works. Once again NR means NOT RATED.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

Really enjoying the utah "fan" hypocrisy. A no star with no other offers is all of a sudden a "hidden gem" and a "diamond in the rough" with "vast potential".

I admit I know nothing about this kid, and neither do any of these utah "fans". He may be the stud of all studs but based on utah "fan" criteria he is simply not what they claim utah gets. Offering a no star with no other offers before any other team does is not something utah does is it?

LOL!

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

U 90

I didn't see one word from Y's Little Brother about the kid with zero stars.

In fact, the general theme of the "stars" discussion by BYU fans has been that "stars" are greatly over-rated when it comes to evaluating recruiting.

It's interesting that while Utah fans are busy beating their chests about outrecruiting BYU (based solely on the number of stars given to each recruit), those same fans are completely ignoring the fact that Utah finished in the bottom third of the PAC 10.2 in recruiting, based on that exact same criteria.

Since U only play BYU TWICE in the next four years, while playing THIRTY-SIX games against PAC 10.2 teams, shouldn't your main focus be on how the Utes stack up against the PAC 10.2.

Thanks for confirming Utah's total obsession with their big brother, BYU.

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Naval Vet

LOL at your spin.

Let's not forget Utah walloping UCLA at home in 2007, then getting shut out by 10-loss UNLV the next week. Besides, didn't you just totally invalidate your entire "stars" argument by ignoring the fact that UCLA just signed SEVENTEEN 4-star recruits, while Utah only signed ONE?

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

JoCo Ute

"Re @ Mussing w/U Are you serious? Did you really ask "If no stars have been awarded, how did Whittingham know that Frison was any good?" Do you really not understand recruiting services?

Coaches have been watching kids for 3 years or longer by the time they get to be seniors. BYU and Utah both have a good handle on local talent and if they think a player is good enough they offer him a scholarship. What a scouting service thinks doesn't matter if a player is a known product."

Are you really so naive that you didn't understand that Mussing with U was being facetious?

Bronco and Whit couldn't care less about how many stars some recruiting service places next to a each player's name; they recruit players based on their own evaluations. That's why it's so laughable that certain fans on this blog are so obsessed with rating recruiting classes based on stars.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

Duckhunter

"Really enjoying the utah "fan" hypocrisy. A no star with no other offers is all of a sudden a "hidden gem" and a "diamond in the rough" with "vast potential"."

LOL!

Couldn't agree with the utter hypocrisy of Utah fans. Their flavor-of-the-minute arguments are childish and hilarious. Utah recruiting a few 3-star recruits more than BYU is a monumental advantage, but UCLA recruiting SIXTEEN 4-star recruits more than Utah is insignificant. And now all of a sudden a zero-star recruit is a hidden gem simply because he committed to Utah.

SLCguy
Murray, UT

You guys are ALL so childish.

What exactly does this 3rd grade girlish hair pulling contest have to do with a kid who just started playing Football a year ago, and has developed (already) into a kid deserving of a scholarship?

This is a complete underdog story that makes all of the crazy little league parent behavior even MORE idiotic. Here's a kid that NEVER played little league, never made an All Star team, or won a midget or bantam division and HE is the one that already has an offer (and committed) as his JUNIOR year in High School comes to an end.

BYU fans commenting on this story should be ashamed of themselves; and Utah fans responding to the stupidity should as well.

This story is about Mr. Frison. NOTHING else. Some of you guys really need to get a life to help you understand what is REALLY important.

Fashion Police
Olympus Cove, Utah

SLCguy

Have you even read the BYU commentary, or are you just spouting off?

Not a single negative comment has been directed towards the kid, in fact, almost all of the BYU commentary has been a slam at the Utah fan hypocrisy of evaluating every BYU recruit based solely on the number of stars next to the recruit's name, while completely abandoning that criteria whenever its convenient when evaluating Utah recruits.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@slcguy

You're obviously a utah "fan". BYU fans are mocking utah "fans" and their hypocrisy here, not the kid. I like how utah "fans" try to twist even that fact.

Wally West
SLC, UT

to Uteanymous 11:22 a.m. Feb. 27

What do ALL those schools have in common? Their players regularly & consistently get drafted by the NFL.

ute4ever
West Jordan, UT

All you posters are lame. It's always gotta be a U vs. Y discussion. We should all take a minute and realize that this kid was a basketball player up until about a year or so ago. He's played 1 year of football. He is obviously very raw, but the Utah coaches saw enough of him to believe he has a high ceiling. Hard to place "stars" on a guy who has played 1 year and hasn't been on ANYONE's radars. I give props to Utah's coaches for finding this guy before he potentially gets discovered during his senior season.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

uteBusters

"Once a little brother, always a little brother."

Signed - The 70's & 80's

U 90
Corona, CA

Rockwell,

This is a Utah article, right, Who is obsessed my friend?

raisedaute
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Rockwell

Now that is TRUE OBSESSION a person who is a BYU fan from Baltimore MD reading and posting on A Utah Utes article on recruiting. I guess you dont have anybody to read about in Maryland or Utah other than the Utes LOL

anti BCS
Anaheim, CA

raisinute

"Now that is TRUE OBSESSION a person who is a BYU fan from Baltimore MD reading and posting on A Utah Utes article on recruiting."

Gotta laugh at the hypocrisy of Utah fans; THE biggest trolls on BYU blogs are two of your own - Chris B and his many aliases, who somehow manages to be the first blogger on nearly every BYU article, and your own dear Naval friend, who sometimes spews 5 or 6 posts in a row.

It's funny that BYU-obsessed Utah fans are so busy whining about BYU fans introducing a little reality into their stars fest, that they won't even address the most salient question,

"How does Utah expect to compete in the PAC 10.2 if the Utes are constantly being out recruited by the big boys of the conference?"

To U, it's all about BYU.

As long as you've convinced yourself that Utah's recruiting class is better than BYU's, that's the only thing that matters to U.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Chris--
"You BYU fans are going to start claiming to have equal talent to Alabama if Nick Saban finds an under the radar 0 star guy and offers him!"

Are you claiming to have the same talent as Alabama, and that Whitt is as good a coach as Saban?

Naval, "Frantic and emotional". Do you know any more adjectives? Dude, you seem like a positive guy. I wanna have dinner with you sometime, and just soak in the glow of your positive nature--

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I think this is a great get for Utah. The kid grew up wanting to be at the U, and Kyle was smart enough to grab him. He looks like he has great potential, and why wait around for him to collect "stars" befor he is offered?

Good luck kid.

alternate
Salt Lake City, UT

An fyi to utah fans who comment negatively on BYU stories but then get angry when BYU fans comment negatively on Utah stories and vice versa. You can't have it both ways. What goes around comes around. Thick skins required here. I could add many more slogans.

Unfortunately that is the ugliness of back and forth bantering.

A solution. Utah people stay with Utah stories and vice versa for BYU fans. Anger most likely will go away.

Another solution. The spoken golden rule.

Hope all have a good weekend.

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Unbelievable the amount of hate-filled comments from BYU fans (or "byu" fans, as "duckhunter" would infamously say). Come on, guys. Your obsession and jealousy with everything related to the University of Utah football is sad and downright pathetic.

You really need to spend more time following your own program and its Quest for Relevance.

ekute
Layton, UT

Out recruiting byu and beating them on the field doesn't help the Utes compete in the Pac12. byu is Irrelevant to the Utes,the Pac12 and all other Major Conferences,and the BCS. Go Utes

Amazed
Bountiful, UT

Best of luck amigo! The ticket's been punched - now just go to class, do your homework, and score high enough on the tests to avoid Snow College! MaxPreps exists to pad somebody's pocket - who cares what they say. Where did MP rank Ziggy? Highest draft pick in this years draft, with ties to our State, and MP didn't have a clue/signing day event/endless experts... Again, best of luck, and congrats on your hard work!

andrewute1
Salt Lake City, UT

Kenyon Frison was just invited to The Opening aka Nike Elite Camp. The most prestigious high school football camp in the country. Its an invite only camp. Basically only the top 100 players in the country are invited. Don't be surprised if he is bumped from to a high 4 star, possibly 5 star recruit.

GO UTES!!

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