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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 27 2013 12:22 a.m. MST

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Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Utealmost said:

"A slight edge for Utah over BYU in recruiting", Utah's class was ranked #43, as opposed to BYU's #70. That would be like saying South Carolina (#16), had a slight edge over Utah. At least be accurate and honest. Then again, why start now?

It's pretty early in the recruiting zseason, but a couple of items are a given: Utah will out recruit BYU; again. Utah will beat them on the playing field: again!

MUSSing with U
Baltimore, MD

christy

So if UCLA, USC, Arizona and ASU ALL finished ahead of Utah in the PAC 10.2 last season, and ALL of them had BETTER recruiting classes than U, how, exactly did U "improve" so you think you're "right there" with the rest of the PAC South?

UCLA, the top team in the PAC South in 2011 and 2012, signed SEVENTEEN 4-star recruits, to only ONE for Utah. If the "star" system is even close to accurate, the Utes don't have a prayer of beating the Bruins.

It's laughable that the Utes think that by hiring the guy that Arizona State FIRED two years ago, that was suddenly going to make the Utes a player in the PAC South. Didn't U already try that a couple of years ago? How'd that one work out?

They say that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results.

RIP flash-in-the-pan Utah football; your best days are behind U.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Snack PAC: Nobody is beating their chests - we are laughing and responding to how ridiculous it is that the Ute-obsessed trollers are always flocking to Utah stories. Those who don't like how we respond to trollers shouldn't be trolling

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Uteanymous: By "slight edge"' do you mean ESPN having no rank for 7 y recruits and 2 stars for 8 - on signing day? That's half your class! You sure throw the word "delusional" around a lot!

BTW - keep being obsessed with Utah, it is great entertainment for us Ute fans!!

MUSSing with U
Baltimore, MD

JoCo Ute

If no stars have been awarded, how did Whittingham know that Frison was any good?

What difference does it make how many stars both BYU and Utah have in December - Utah will only play BYU TWICE, in the next FOUR years? Utah will play at least 36 PAC 10.2 games during the same time period.

If stars are so important, how does Utah ever expect to compete in the PAC 10.2.

The Utes will NEVER out recruit USC and UCLA, and will only rarely out recruit ASU, Arizona and Colorado (as soon as Colorado turns their program around)?

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

Spokane Ute

"Utah will out recruit BYU; again. Utah will beat them on the playing field: again!"

Even if that is true, how is that going to help U beat USC, UCLA, Arizona, and ASU who all signed better recruiting classes in 2013 than U?

*crickets*

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@GordonBlue

Utah has played all of those schools very, very close recently; and beat Arizona the year before last. Obviously, there's a lot more to winning then recruiting. The Utes will be back, one season doesn't discount what they have done the last 10.

I guess the crickets just got devoured.

*gulp*

killarney
Lincoln Park, IL

Spokane Ute

"Utah has played all of those schools very, very close recently;"

It's funny how you want to count Utah's close losses to unranked teams, but you completely dismissed BYU's close losses to ranked teams during the 2012 season.

A little consistency would be appreciated.

"Obviously, there's a lot more to winning then recruiting."

Thank you for being one of the few honest Utah fans - at least on these blogs.

Recruiting rankings aren't everything.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

Spokane Ute

Arizona didn't have Roderick when Utah beat the Wildcats.

Losing to teams "closely" still isn't winning.

Utah has had some success during the last 10 years, but the Utes have been in steady decline since their peak in 2008.

UCLA is much improved from a couple of years ago and just got MUCH stronger.

*crickets* still chirping

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

....and in Utah's supposed decline, they have still won 3 in a row and 8 of 11 from your Cougars.

So where does that place the Cougs?

gonefishn
Salt Lake City, UT

54-10
You have really hit the nail on the head. The lowly opinion of the Utes by obsessed BYU fans is of little consequence due to the fact the Y has been dominated on the field. I freely admit the Utes severely under achieved last year but if you take the "logic" of byu fans and the Utes are in such poor shape the Y must be flat awful.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ mussingaround

Arizona still doesn't have anybody named Roderick

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@CordonBleu

"Utah will out recruit BYU; again. Utah will beat them on the playing field: again!"

Even if that is true, how is that going to help U beat USC, UCLA, Arizona, and ASU who all signed better recruiting classes in 2013 than U?

*crickets*

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Probably the way we beat UCLA and Arizona in 2012 when they signed a better recruiting classes playing with MWC talent... great coaching KW and Chow. It depends on if Erickson can turn the offense around.

U 90
Corona, CA

.... a verbal commitment for the 2014 season (not 2013).

Dear Cougar Fans, That means Kenyon is currently a JR. in high school, not a senior. Stars are not assigned yet.

Please feel free to bust our chops if the kid had zero stars in December 2013, but I'm sure that won't be the case.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

The Moose:

"Many 0-star athletes become famous."

Correction: Only a FEW 0-star athletes become famous. Not "many".

Y's little brother
Sandy, UT

U 90

"Please feel free to bust our chops if the kid had zero stars in December 2013,..."

You just don't get it, do you?

BYU fans aren't busting your chops about stars; BYU fans are laughing at U for being so obsessed with stars.

Here's a reality check:

UCLA BEAT U at RES in 2012.

UCLA signed SEVENTEEN 4-star recruits; Utah signed ONE!

If stars are as meaningful as U claim they are, then Utah will NEVER have a chance of beating the Bruins.

If, despite the stars, you claim U do have a decent chance of beating UCLA, then stars aren't nearly as meaningful as you pretend they are.

Either way, it's great fun casting stars bait, and then watching our little brothers go into a feeding frenzy.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

MUSSing with U:

"The Utes will NEVER out recruit...UCLA."

Utah already HAD! Your big brother out-recruited the Bruins back in 2011. We certainly will need to step up our recruiting to stay competitive with our league members, but to say "never" is just a jealous anguished jab. It might "feel" good to say, but sadly for you, it was a fail.

For what it's worth, I'm not sure why our little brother is so interested in Utah's ability to keep up with the rest of the Pac-12, since the Pac-12 has nothing to do with you. You weren't wanted. "Pac-12 recruiting" is Utah's problem. Not yours. Your problem is keeping YOUR recruiting competitive with the mid-majors like Toledo, Southern Miss, and all the Louisiana schools not-named LSU.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

U's little brother:

"UCLA BEAT U at RES in 2012."

What a frantic and emotional "feel good" thing to say. Too bad for you it isn't true. UCLA edged the Utes at the Rose Bowl (21-14) in 2012. At RES, your "Norm Chow-led" big brother dominated them 31-6 (2011). And 44-6 (2007). UCLA hadn't beaten the Utes in SLC since 1974.

"Either way, it's great fun casting stars bait, and then watching our little brothers go into a feeding frenzy."

Is it? I remember back in 2009-10 - before you dropped down to play WAC football - when you guys thought you were finally going to out-recruit your big bro with your 4-star talents named Heaps and Ross. Back then, stars mattered to our Indy-WACey little brother. But as soon as you dropped out of the MWC, and joined ranks with the WAC, and your recruiting pool plummeted, THAT's when "stars didn't matter". Seems to me that stars only don't matter when you know you're not going to attract many.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

U's little brother:

P.S.: Utah out-recruited our bubble-dwelling WAC-ish and mid-majorey little brother in 9 of the last 12 recruiting classes. And then won on the field in 8 of the last 11.

Coincidence?

U 90
Corona, CA

@ Little Brother "BYU fans aren't busting your chops about stars; BYU fans are laughing at U for being so obsessed with stars"

Let me get this straight, you are a BYU fan on a Utah thread talking smack about a kid with zero starts. Who is obsessed with stars? You need some mirror time. I guess when you are getting out-recruited by Utah year in and year out I can see where you would be a bit sensitive on the stars issue.

And if you are even hinting that starts don't really matter, please see Alabama.

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