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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 26 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

Re: Open Minded Mormon "I'll bet mental illness and access to guns will be the common demoninators."

I would further qualify your hypothesis to "A diagnosis of mental illness, a prescription of psychotropic medication, and access to guns".

A common denominator in many of the mass killings is that the perpetrators were under medication.

Many of these medications will have a side effect of "thoughts of suicide". It is not a far reach to think that if the drug could cause thoughts of killing oneself, it could produce thoughts of killing others. Or, maybe these mass killings were attempts at suicide by cop.

We have become a nation where too many people are medicated. Rather than gun control, let's control the over prescription of drugs.

m.g. scott
LAYTON, UT

Re: Runner

In response, there are also laws and regulations (thousands of them) that make an effort to provide gun safety. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

In response to your assertion that guns are intended to kill people, that my friend is why police carry them. And since police cannot be depended upon to provide you with personal safety the wise founders provided the Second Amendment for the right of the individule to be armed.

And by the way, just what do you propose we do to "control and monitor" guns? Name you poison. And be honest, you sound like you mean eliminate them outright for the private citizen, Correct?

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Open Minded Mormon" actually most criminals use illegally purchased guns, so a background check wouldn't do anything.

The headline is misleading. The shooting was in the neighborhood of the LDS temple

To those of you that think that taking guns away is the solution, plese explain why Mexico and much of south and central america have significantly higher homicide rates with firearms than the US. Those nations also have more strict gun laws than the US.

The bigger question is why are you so afraid of guns? You realize that you are more likely to have somebody kill you with their fists, feet, or other blunt objects than they are to kill you with a gun.

SLMG
Murtoa Australia, Victoria

Cinci Man

FT MITCHELL, KY

@isrred
And according to you liberals, this shooting wouldn't have happened if you took away my guns and had a background check done on his grandmother. Sheez!

Why is it that conservatives always jump the gun and assume that a remark that doesn't agree with there way of thinking has to be made by a liberal. Not true! There are plenty of conservatives that would have made the same remarks as isrred. It is never a good idea put labels on people without knowing them.

Res Novae
Ashburn, VA

@bandersen

Bogus quotes about guns from the Founding Fathers aren't exactly helping the conversation. I've found a majority of the gun quotes I find thrown around are distortions or flat-out fabrications.

zoar63
Mesa, AZ

If it there had been no shootings in Aurora and Connecticut these latest shootings would be mostly local news. Now the shootings make national news most of the time. They were not headlines before and now suddenly they are.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@IJ
"The CDC will show you that baseball bats kill > 11 times the number of people that guns do."

11,000 people were murdered with guns last year. There is no way 110,000 people were murdered by baseball bats last year.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Redshirt
"To those of you that think that taking guns away is the solution, plese explain why Mexico and much of south and central america have significantly higher homicide rates with firearms than the US. Those nations also have more strict gun laws than the US."

Drug cartels.

Now would you like to explain why Japan, Sweden, France and Germany have homicide rates with firearms that are way lower than the US despite having more strict gun laws than the US?

Here's the thing though, I don't really think taking guns away is the solution. What I care about most is the expansion of background checks to involve all gun purchases. That doesn't involve taking any guns away from anyone. A limit on magazine clips doesn't take anyone's guns away. A grandfathered in assault weapons ban wouldn't take anyone's guns away. We have the highest gun per person ratio of any nation on the planet (Yemen is second) and that's not going to change even if Obama gets everything he proposed.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Redshirt
"The bigger question is why are you so afraid of guns? You realize that you are more likely to have somebody kill you with their fists, feet, or other blunt objects than they are to kill you with a gun."

Because someone trying to kill me with a gun has much higher odds of success than someone attacking me with other stuff. The same day as Newtown a crazy guy in China went into a school with a knife and stabbed 20 kids roughly the same age as those at Newtown. All of them survived.

wYo8
Rock Springs, WY

Heard on the radio yesterday that citizens of Oakland, California don't feel safe in their homes.They are armed all the time. They can't depend on the cops with budget problems and the cops avoiding some areas. The USA Today had an article about communities in Mexico have taken it upon themselves to protect themselves and communities because the cops and politicins can't or won't. Also some 30,000 prisioners where released by the Feds last friday. So who needs a personal protection gun. If the moral decay of this country keep going the way they are everyone will. Gun free zone means that there are no law abiding citizens armed. But what does this mean to a crimal. No one to shoot back. EASY TAKINGS FOR THE THUG.

Meadow Lark Mark
IDAHO FALLS, ID

I'm not opposed to rules and laws to try to have an orderly distribution of guns among law abiding citizens. Please tell me though, after we have (perhaps) taken away or severly limited guns among law abiding citizens, how do we get guns away from criminals?

AmberDru
Xenia, OH

According to Ch 6 Soth Sin, 33 came from Cambodia and married Sokkha Chant, 65 to be able to stay in the country.. I see NO deportations and a U visa

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "atl134" so lets summarize your statments.

It is organized crime that has the guns and uses them to commit murder. And in nations, such as Japan, Sweden, France and Germany, where organized crime is less prevalent has fewer gun related homicides.

So, why go after guns, when the problem is organized crime? It is like going after speeders by limiting tire purchases.

So then you also show that without an armed populace you get the same types of attacks in China that we get in the US. In Japan you have the Osaka School Massacre wich killed multiple people without the use of a gun.

You want to disarm people so that criminals have an easier time killing people and so that we are dependant on waiting for the police to show up before our children can be defended.

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