Published: Saturday, Feb. 23 2013 11:55 p.m. MST
With each gun sold, rules of gun safety should beprovided.If
and only if such rules are followed, can a gun inyour home make your home
safer. Otherwisea gun in a home makes it less safe.
Utah gun nuts.
Background checks work. Leaders from law enforcement overwhelmingly concur on
this. I don't support an assault weapons ban, but eliminating the gunshow
loophole on background checks seems like a no-brainer to me.
I've reread the Second Amendment several times, and it sounds to me that
that amendment states that owning guns is a conditional right of people, they
have the right to own guns so there will be people with guns available for the
militia. At the time that amendment was written, states and the Federal
government provided no guns for members of the militia. Militia members had to
provide their own guns. However, things are different today. When I was a member
of the Utah National Guard, my Guard unit provided my M1 rifle, carbines,
machine guns, bazookas, and howitzers for use during my training. The
Constitution and the Bill of Rights makes no mention of gun registration or
background checks, so those two things are not protected by the Second
Amendment.I support the right of citizens to have guns, but I hope
we citizens will have enough honesty to not claim that freedom from gun
registration and background checks is supported by the Constitution.
The NRA is evil. It used to really represent sportsmen, but no more. It is an
extremist group, and I am appalled that Utahns Utahns are into the excessive
lust for guns. It is beyond unseemly. And I cannot fathom how they square it
with the Gospel of Christ.
No registration! No compliance! No compromise! We TeaPublicans along with the
NRA members are NOT going to let the government take our weapons! We will not
let law enforcement take our weapons! I am worried that any attempt from obama
to take our guns might start an armed rebellion! We will not give up our guns
so I guess you can TRY to put us in jail. We need a leader like Ted Nugent
(supported by FoxNews, Michele Bachman, Rush Limbaugh, Grover Norquist, Sarah
Palin, Gingrich, Dick Morris, O’Riley, Hannity, Beck and Malkin) to guide
us down a path of resistance to the government gun grab! Radio talk show host
Alex Jones said “you darn right 1776 will happen again and the Republic
will rise again if the government tries to take our guns”! Just remember
what Thomas Jefferson said: “Whenever any form of government becomes
destructive of these ends life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness it is the
right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute a new
government…”. TeaPublicans will take back America in 2014 and 2016
and we will take back those gun laws too!
Voting is a constitutionally guaranteed right, but you don't have that
right if you're not registered to vote.The right to keep and
bear arms is a constitutionally guaranteed right, so why should it be forbidden
to require gun owners to register their guns?The NRA is becoming
more out of touch every day.
Constitutional rights critic Holyhoak argues: "Buying a gun should be
at least as hard as getting a drivers license."Well, criminals
get drivers licenses (if they bother to get one at all) just like the get guns--
illegally. Fake driver licenses are readily available here in Utah, along with
all sorts of other fake ID. All of which, by the way, will enable a criminal to
use their new fake identity to buy a gun- even with a background check.And, does Holyhoak also want DMV style bureaucratic interference with anyone
wanting to speak out on issues, write for a newspaper or a blog? How about
getting the official state approved card and registration before you can attend
the church or your choice, if deemed "suitable"?As for proof
registration leads to confiscation- California already did it with certain
"assault weapons" and confiscation (euphemistically "surrendering to
the state without compensation") is included in several bills introduced in
several state legislatures.Our rights ARE under attack, and the very
foundation of our nation, the Constitution, is under attack. The founders
adopted the Second Amendment to ensure citizens could defend against a
tyrannical government, hoping it would never be needed.
Those tragic events to which he refers to as 'opportunities',
presumably because he sees them as times when people are more willing to
consider some sort of gun restrictions, they're not opportunities.
They're symptoms. Signs of a sick environment or society. If you want to
call them opportunities, call them missed opportunities, because what we've
done up to this point, which is absolutely nothing, is not working.
"Buying a gun should be at least as hard as getting a drivers license."
Oh contrare Mr. Holyhoak. A drivers license is not guaranteed by the
Constitution. Being able to own a gun is. You remember what the Constitution is
don't you sir? Liberals only know it when it suits their agenda. "Gun
Control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober
people to own cars".
"He did not make himself available to answer questions from reporters, nor
did he provide any evidence that universal background checks would become a
stepping stone to a registry leading to confiscation of weapons."Doing what LaPiere does best! Run around the country selling the Chicken
Little based scenerio that big brother is coming to take our guns, big brother
is the enemy, we need more guns, more ammo, bigger clips. Get the gunners
whipped into a frenzy and the next thing we will hear is we need gun ports in
our homes and land mines in the lawn to stop the "big brother
invaders". In the same article the statement was made "it
should be as hard to get a gun permit as it is to get a drivers licence" but
then again who knows, big brother might use the DL data base to come and
confiscate our tanks and armored vehicles, after all big brother is lurking just
around the corner! What LaPierre fails to mention in all his diatribes is the
money factor which is after all what drives the NRA!
Wonder what the DN was trying to convey with their photos of sweet little babies
around gun people.Like other polar opposites in the universe, those two do
Wayne LaPierre in Utah spreading even more scare stories for those gullible
enough to swallow them.Hopefully, not all of us will be as gullible
and paranoid as a few of the posters here have been this morning. It's
encouraging to see that the majority of posts here this morning contain some
good sense and have not fallen for the "gonna get your guns" lies of the
Checks are coming. The gun lobby must agree to some new legislation. The
"everyone can have any type of arm at any time" mentality will result in
eventual repeal of the Second amendment. Extremism and radical anarchy in
defense of unlimited fire power will "backfire". While it may be fun
to blast off 1000 rounds playing rambo at the range, should everyone be obsessed
by weapons designed to kill animals and people.
Utah has more firearm deaths per capita than California. In 2010
Utah ranked in the top 10 for number of suicides per capita. In 2010, 473
people in UT died from suicide, and 52 deaths from homicide. In 2010 there
were 314 deaths from firearms in UT and 272 deaths from motor vehicle accidents.
wayne lapierre for president...Failed to provide any evidence... "...He did not make himself available to answer questions from
reporters, nor did he provide any evidence that universal background checks
would become a stepping stone to a registry leading to confiscation of
weapons...".Failed the strawman gambit..."...Feinstein's bill actually would not impact any legally owned gun
of those attending LaPierre's speech because it would not be retroactive.
It also would exempt 2,200 hunting and sporting weapons and would make exempt
any gun manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action...".As far as wraping words around the second amendment...An
interesting fact of the story is that it is part of the Business section.wayne lapiere is nothing more than a front man/sales person for the
weapons industry."...But Saturday's gathering was a time
for emotion, not specifics...".Exactly.
one vote: The Comstitution can not be changed no matter what people think.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
snowman says: " The Comstitution can not be changed no matter what people
think."Have you ever heard the word "Amdendment?"
was this a news story or an opinion piece? At least try to hide your disgust
enough to report the story or should someone else have been sent to cover it?
Did you have to get a licence to be a journalist because your practice of the
craft could be grounds for getting the licence revoked.
Simpler, but equally accurate version of the story:Huckster comes to
Utah, shouts "OBAMA! Booga-Booga-Booga!"Huckster shakes his
fist in air, roars, and then thumps his chest.The crowd goes
wild.The money flows.Huckster is happy.
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