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Published: Saturday, Feb. 23 2013 11:55 p.m. MST

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cjb
Bountiful, UT

With each gun sold, rules of gun safety should be
provided.

If and only if such rules are followed, can a gun in
your home make your home safer. Otherwise
a gun in a home makes it less safe.

Shuzzie53
HAYWARD, CA

Utah gun nuts.

Schwa
South Jordan, UT

Background checks work. Leaders from law enforcement overwhelmingly concur on this. I don't support an assault weapons ban, but eliminating the gunshow loophole on background checks seems like a no-brainer to me.

Allen
Salt Lake valley, UT

I've reread the Second Amendment several times, and it sounds to me that that amendment states that owning guns is a conditional right of people, they have the right to own guns so there will be people with guns available for the militia. At the time that amendment was written, states and the Federal government provided no guns for members of the militia. Militia members had to provide their own guns. However, things are different today. When I was a member of the Utah National Guard, my Guard unit provided my M1 rifle, carbines, machine guns, bazookas, and howitzers for use during my training. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights makes no mention of gun registration or background checks, so those two things are not protected by the Second Amendment.

I support the right of citizens to have guns, but I hope we citizens will have enough honesty to not claim that freedom from gun registration and background checks is supported by the Constitution.

Esquire
Springville, UT

The NRA is evil. It used to really represent sportsmen, but no more. It is an extremist group, and I am appalled that Utahns Utahns are into the excessive lust for guns. It is beyond unseemly. And I cannot fathom how they square it with the Gospel of Christ.

TeaPublican
Houston, TX

No registration! No compliance! No compromise! We TeaPublicans along with the NRA members are NOT going to let the government take our weapons! We will not let law enforcement take our weapons! I am worried that any attempt from obama to take our guns might start an armed rebellion! We will not give up our guns so I guess you can TRY to put us in jail. We need a leader like Ted Nugent (supported by FoxNews, Michele Bachman, Rush Limbaugh, Grover Norquist, Sarah Palin, Gingrich, Dick Morris, O’Riley, Hannity, Beck and Malkin) to guide us down a path of resistance to the government gun grab! Radio talk show host Alex Jones said “you darn right 1776 will happen again and the Republic will rise again if the government tries to take our guns”! Just remember what Thomas Jefferson said: “Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute a new government…”. TeaPublicans will take back America in 2014 and 2016 and we will take back those gun laws too!

The Skeptical Chymist
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Voting is a constitutionally guaranteed right, but you don't have that right if you're not registered to vote.

The right to keep and bear arms is a constitutionally guaranteed right, so why should it be forbidden to require gun owners to register their guns?

The NRA is becoming more out of touch every day.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Constitutional rights critic Holyhoak argues:
"Buying a gun should be at least as hard as getting a drivers license."

Well, criminals get drivers licenses (if they bother to get one at all) just like the get guns-- illegally. Fake driver licenses are readily available here in Utah, along with all sorts of other fake ID. All of which, by the way, will enable a criminal to use their new fake identity to buy a gun- even with a background check.

And, does Holyhoak also want DMV style bureaucratic interference with anyone wanting to speak out on issues, write for a newspaper or a blog? How about getting the official state approved card and registration before you can attend the church or your choice, if deemed "suitable"?

As for proof registration leads to confiscation- California already did it with certain "assault weapons" and confiscation (euphemistically "surrendering to the state without compensation") is included in several bills introduced in several state legislatures.

Our rights ARE under attack, and the very foundation of our nation, the Constitution, is under attack. The founders adopted the Second Amendment to ensure citizens could defend against a tyrannical government, hoping it would never be needed.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Those tragic events to which he refers to as 'opportunities', presumably because he sees them as times when people are more willing to consider some sort of gun restrictions, they're not opportunities. They're symptoms. Signs of a sick environment or society. If you want to call them opportunities, call them missed opportunities, because what we've done up to this point, which is absolutely nothing, is not working.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

"Buying a gun should be at least as hard as getting a drivers license." Oh contrare Mr. Holyhoak. A drivers license is not guaranteed by the Constitution. Being able to own a gun is. You remember what the Constitution is don't you sir? Liberals only know it when it suits their agenda. "Gun Control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars".

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

"He did not make himself available to answer questions from reporters, nor did he provide any evidence that universal background checks would become a stepping stone to a registry leading to confiscation of weapons."

Doing what LaPiere does best! Run around the country selling the Chicken Little based scenerio that big brother is coming to take our guns, big brother is the enemy, we need more guns, more ammo, bigger clips. Get the gunners whipped into a frenzy and the next thing we will hear is we need gun ports in our homes and land mines in the lawn to stop the "big brother invaders".

In the same article the statement was made "it should be as hard to get a gun permit as it is to get a drivers licence" but then again who knows, big brother might use the DL data base to come and confiscate our tanks and armored vehicles, after all big brother is lurking just around the corner! What LaPierre fails to mention in all his diatribes is the money factor which is after all what drives the NRA!

ThornBirds
St.George, Utah

Wonder what the DN was trying to convey with their photos of sweet little babies around gun people.
Like other polar opposites in the universe, those two do not mesh.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Wayne LaPierre in Utah spreading even more scare stories for those gullible enough to swallow them.

Hopefully, not all of us will be as gullible and paranoid as a few of the posters here have been this morning. It's encouraging to see that the majority of posts here this morning contain some good sense and have not fallen for the "gonna get your guns" lies of the NRA.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Checks are coming. The gun lobby must agree to some new legislation. The "everyone can have any type of arm at any time" mentality will result in eventual repeal of the Second amendment. Extremism and radical anarchy in defense of unlimited fire power will "backfire". While it may be fun to blast off 1000 rounds playing rambo at the range, should everyone be obsessed by weapons designed to kill animals and people.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Utah has more firearm deaths per capita than California.

In 2010 Utah ranked in the top 10 for number of suicides per capita. In 2010, 473 people in UT died from suicide, and 52 deaths from homicide. In 2010 there were 314 deaths from firearms in UT and 272 deaths from motor vehicle accidents.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

wayne lapierre for president...

Failed to provide any evidence...

"...He did not make himself available to answer questions from reporters, nor did he provide any evidence that universal background checks would become a stepping stone to a registry leading to confiscation of weapons...".

Failed the strawman gambit...

"...Feinstein's bill actually would not impact any legally owned gun of those attending LaPierre's speech because it would not be retroactive. It also would exempt 2,200 hunting and sporting weapons and would make exempt any gun manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action...".

As far as wraping words around the second amendment...

An interesting fact of the story is that it is part of the Business section.

wayne lapiere is nothing more than a front man/sales person for the weapons industry.

"...But Saturday's gathering was a time for emotion, not specifics...".

Exactly.

snowman
Provo, UT

one vote: The Comstitution can not be changed no matter what people think. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

one old man
Ogden, UT

snowman says: " The Comstitution can not be changed no matter what people think."

Have you ever heard the word "Amdendment?"

BU52
Provo, ut

was this a news story or an opinion piece? At least try to hide your disgust enough to report the story or should someone else have been sent to cover it? Did you have to get a licence to be a journalist because your practice of the craft could be grounds for getting the licence revoked.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

Simpler, but equally accurate version of the story:

Huckster comes to Utah, shouts "OBAMA! Booga-Booga-Booga!"

Huckster shakes his fist in air, roars, and then thumps his chest.

The crowd goes wild.

The money flows.

Huckster is happy.

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