This is great! The Lord's work is progressing in spite of the numerous
I'm interested to see what this does to my mission. I was called to the El
Salvador San Salvador mission, but it seems like now there will be three instead
of just two missions in El Salvador? Love how The Lord is progressing His
work!!! Can't wait to get out there soon!
Wait a minute. I thought we were losing members left and right. Maybe
it's all for show.
Coach Biff, and maybe the Bible is true which says the children of the kingdom
will be cast into outer darkness (Matt. 8:12) and the Gentile nations become the
blessed, and the first become last and the last become first.
The Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work
from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble,
calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and
independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept
every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be
accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done.” Joseph
How many of these new missions actually opened up new areas for missionary work
vs just split a single mission into two, or two into three?If I were
a missionary now, I would not necessarily like this announcement if it is just
splitting missions. It just means that each mission is squeezed into a smaller
geographical area and therefore giving less opportunities to work in a variety
of places. If I were called to Germany, I would want it to cover the whole
country instead of spending my whole mission in just the city of Berlin.
I had heard visa limitations limited the amount of new missionaries we could
send abroad. That certainly doesn't appear to be the case with the creation
of so many foreign missions.
This was expected given the huge wave of missionaries that entered the
missionary force with the age changes announced in October. I wonder how long
the Idaho missions, Nampa and Twin Falls will stay separate before being folded
back into the Boise and Idaho Falls missions. The LDS church will
likely see a major spike of 25,000 - 30,000 more missionaries per year but then
in about 3-4 years, the numbers will also likely drop to about the same
pre-October 2012 levels.
@Brigham's BrotherDon't forget that many of these missions
will be manned by missionaries from countries other than the U.S., so any visa
issues unique to the U.S. aren't a factor.When I was a
missionary way back when, American missionaries were not allowed into Colombia
for political reasons. The Colombian missions were staffed entirely with
missionaries from other Latin American countries.
@Thinkman - Your opinion that this is a temporary spike is missing a significant
point: young women are more likely to serve missions at 19 than at 21. I think
you will see close to double the "pre-age change" numbers of
missionaries serving and that level will be maintained, not drop back down, by
the fact that more young women are serving missions. The same effect for the
young men will be in place, just at a less dramatic change in numbers, but young
men are more likely to serve missions at 18 than at 19.
I am excited to see the creation of new missions in Brazil, especially the Sao
Paulo West. I served in the Sao Paul South Mission soon after the creation of
the Sao Paulo Interlagos Mission. The other Sao Paulo missions presidents had to
send missionaries to the new mission and sent a lot of their fubeca missionaries
so the Interlagos mission had some probelems at first. Hopefully, that problem
won't happen again.
Awesome! The Virginia Cheaspeake Mission, I like the sound of it! Cheaspeake is
next door to Virginia Beach. This will get me more fired up when I teach Gospel
Essentials on Sunday!
With increasing wickedness there must be a concomitant increase in
righteousness. This news of new missions and more missionaries shows that the
gospel is keeping up with forces in the world that try to tear down traditional
moral values. Standing with the gospel is not always popular, but it is always
Joe Capatalist2: I would have to disagree, it took over 18 hours to drive from
one side of my mission to the other, we only had enough missionaries to cover a
small portion of the towns and cities that my mission encompassed. Splitting it
in two would have been a huge blessing and made all of us extremely excited.Brigham Brother: I think you are discounting the amount of missionaries
that are not born in the U.S. my mission had about 1/4 South American
missionaries to 3/4 american, but most mission in the area at the time where
about 50/50. In fact my friend serving in Chile only had 1 american companion.
I was called to the Guatemala Guatemala City Mission in September 1974. At that
time the mission consisted of Guatemala and El Salvador. The mission was split
in 1976 and I was released from the El Salvador San Salvador Mission. Now there
are seven missions between the two countries, and three temples. Amazing.
John2000,You might be correct. However, I think the novelty of
serving a mission will wane if not over the next 3-4 years, over the next 5-10
years among "young women." I still think it is a bit shortsighted for
the LDS church to create all these new missions as you will see a large
contraction in about 5 years or less. The LDS church was contracting its
missions prior to October 2012 in Japan, most of Asia and many parts in Europe.
I also think that there was wisdom in having a larger age gap
between the men and women serving than what we now have. A 19 year old male is
not nearly (usually) as mature as a 21 year old female. An 18 year old male is
even less mature than a 19 year old male and a 19 year female is much less
mature than a 21 year old female. I think the age change was a move
to jump start the declining convert baptism rate the LDS church started
experiencing about 10-12 years ago which has seen a steady decline since. More
missionaries may not translate into more convert baptisms.
To "Thinkman"You can think what you want, but you best be thinking
that the Lord is in charge and control of his church and He knows what He is
Saltillo! One of my favorite cities ever!
When I was in Brazil long ago, the Brazilian sisters were allowed to go on
missions at 19, the elders at 18. They were wonderful missionaries.I
don't think this is a temporary spike. Though still completely optional for
women, I believe far more girls will want to go on missions, and that it will
become the norm rather than the exception. There will be more elders, also, as
young men will be eligible to leave while they still have the zeal of seminary
behind them. True, they will be younger and more inexperienced, but I believe
increased focus on mission prep in wards and seminaries will take care of that.
And with young men and young women leaving on missions at roughly the same age,
there will be fewer of both tempted to stay home because of
boyfriends/girlfriends. In fact, I see the norm becoming that high school
sweethearts will serve missions "together", knowing that they will both
be returning home at about the same time. It will make missions much easier when
boyfriends/girlfriends are going through the same experience and are able to
support and encourage each other.It's all good.
Thinkman,No one with a brain thinks that the current wave is
permanent. It is the collapsing of several years of eligibility into one.But there will likely be a few more YM (especially where the timing was
awkward for school). For the sister, I think it will be a permanent uptick
(again, not as strong as the coming wave, but still strong). Many more sisters
will now serve missions. Given my own experiences with sister missionaries,
that is a great thing.NTW, I am certain someone at church
headquarters has demographic charts and a computer. They are not making
long-term plans based on the short term wave effect.
I'm not trying to downplay this, but it seems more like an administrative
rearrangement that doesn't necessarily correspond to numbers of
missionaries in the field, which is likely to decline once the current wave
pushes through. I'll get excited when we enter mainland China, not when we
subdivide regions where we're already established.
Is it a wonder that some still don't understand that this isn't Thomas
S. Monson's Church or Joseph Smith's Church. This is the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It is the Lord's Church and he is in
CHARGE. These decisions were not made lightly. Take for instance one of the
largest missions in the Church has now been split, the Independence, Missiour
Mission with the formation of the Wichita, Kansas Mission. A few years ago the
foundation of the Omaha Nebraska Mission removed this mission first and now the
formation of this mission. Shortly, sister misssionaries will be teaching in
the outlying areas of Northern Missouri and elsewhere. The Lord has moved up
his time table to prepare the earth for his second coming. The time is now for
us to become as President McKay stated, "Every member a missionary". It
is our responsibility and our duty. Prophesies have been stated in many areas
of the world and even in this country when all missionaries will be doing is
teaching and baptisms.Look around you and you can see the
revelations and prophesies beginning to be fulfilled right before your eyes.
@ Bill in Nebraska Very well said! "Look around you and you
can see the revelations and prophesies beginning to be fulfilled right before
your eyes". All anybody has to do is read the Book of Mormon, Book of
Isaiah, D&C, etc. and any LDS author that speaks on the subject of the
gathering of Israel. Currently reading LeGrand Richards "Israel! Do you
Know?". This is the Lords work, not man's work.
To Thinkman...and others. One thing that the "announcement" will provide
is permanently increased numbers of sister missionaries, some say to the extent
that sisters will permanently outnumber elders. Sisters now have the opportunity
to serve missions first, regardless of any other life-goals that they may have.
Service can now come first, before education or motherhood, both of which can
still be attained easily AFTER serving a mission, sharing the Gospel and their
testimonies!What a wonderful and faith promoting announcement this
I am amused at those who try to predict the future themselves and second-guess
the work of the Lord. Does it matter if this is a "spike?" Did it matter
that there was a lull in numbers pre-October 2012? Absolutely not. And really,
does it matter at all what you or I think or conjecture about it? Absolutely
not.The lull in numbers previous to now had something to do with
raising the bar on the standards on who could go on missions. I think many youth
took that to heart and started preparing themselves. This is a manifestation of
that preparation. Also, it is no coincidence that the new "Come Unto
Christ" Sunday School and YM/YW curriculum has also inaugurated this year.
This new curriculum and the method in which it teaches is only going to prepare
even more missionaries of the future. Spike? I doubt it, my irrelevant
opinion.The Lord's work goes on no matter what we think.