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  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    March 1, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    The minimum wage is a training wage. Nothing more, nothing less. If you don't like what Walmart pays, don't shop there.

    I started my current job 22 years ago at $5.75 an hour. I was married with two kids and one on the way. I worked a couple of other jobs on the side to supplement my income. I worked my butt off to support my family. By the way, I wasn't on food stamps either. I could have easily qualified.

    Maybe someone working at minimum wage doesn't need that Smart Phone, their Ipad, cable TV, a new car a fancy computer, their NetFlix account, designer clothes, eat out all the time, their credit cards. Maybe they need to lose their sense of entitlement and learn to get along in the real world. Maybe they need to learn to deal with life without having so many things.

    A living wage is relative and in the eye of the beholder. After 22 years, my current salary might not seem like a living wage, but I have learned to live within my means.

    Forcing employers to pay a wage that the market may not support is wrong.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Feb. 25, 2013 3:48 p.m.

    @atl
    WRONG on both counts! The only minimum wage-earners in my employ are the dozen or so 15-16 year-olds. Everyone 18 yrs old and older has always been paid above the minimum wage. I do not need government to tell me how to operate my (highly successful) business. I am in year 25. Furthermore, there is a good chance you could not buy my business. But then again it is the rare left-leaning individual who has a real grasp of the realities of capitalism and private business.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Feb. 24, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    To "pragmatistferlife" have you spoken with most kids under 25 yas old? Agan, why do teens and young college age kids need to have minimum wages increased?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 24, 2013 10:26 a.m.

    Would the job creators try to keep wages low to make more of a profit?How about hiring illegal labor? The market will take care of that?

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 7:53 p.m.

    I think we should just do what conservatives want. No minimum wage, no Medicaid , no Medicare, no social security and no unemployment.

    Why we are at how about zero taxes on the wealthy since they are god like and the rest of us can bask in new great economy.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 7:27 p.m.

    First of all, the current level of the minimum wage is very low by any reasonable standard. For about four decades, increases in the minimum wage have consistently fallen behind inflation, so that in real terms the minimum wage is substantially lower than it was in the 1960s. Meanwhile, worker productivity has doubled. Isn’t it time for a raise?

    Now, you might argue that even if the current minimum wage seems low, raising it would cost jobs. But there’s evidence on that question — lots and lots of evidence, because the minimum wage is one of the most studied issues in all of economics. U.S. experience, it turns out, offers many “natural experiments” here, in which one state raises its minimum wage while others do not. And while there are dissenters, as there always are, the great preponderance of the evidence from these natural experiments points to little if any negative effect of minimum wage increases on employment.- Raise Thaf Wage, Paul Krugman

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 6:25 p.m.

    "give up their cell phones, ipads, cable TV, late model vehicles, SUV's, Hummers and the like, stop eating out three times a week, "

    Alfred lives in a fantasy world, like most conservatives.

    Working full time at the current minimum wage, $7.25, will earn, gross, $15,080 a year. Taking out payroll taxes of 6.3% leaves $14,130 or $1,170 a month.

    Just over a thousand a month and Alfred thinks these people are buying Hummers, SUVs, late model cars eating out three times a week and all the other bells and whistles.

    Alfred, nobody is getting a loan for a 60,000 dollar hummer (guessing on the price, I imagine they are more) making a grand a month. I doubt you could afford the insurance on a hummer making minimum.

    Alfred, like most conservatives, is very much out of touch.

  • Alfred Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    @one old man:
    "I know several, older, well educated people who are doing that now because their jobs were shipped overseas and they simply cannot find anything better."

    Yes, and with the raise in the minimum wage even his current job is likely to shipped over seas.

    @one old man:
    "You are already paying big bucks for welfare. But you'll actually save money if we make it possible for people to pay their own medical bills -- and to work for a living wage."

    Who says the current minimum wage is not a living wage? There are millions of people around the world who work for far less than that. Furthermore, those minimum wage earners would likely do just fine should they decide to give up their cell phones, ipads, cable TV, late model vehicles, SUV's, Hummers and the like, stop eating out three times a week, and ride a bike or bus to work.

  • Mr. Bean Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 4:55 p.m.

    @wrz:
    "We can thank the likes of Teddy Kennedy for the minimum wage. Like a true Democrat and politician, he knew he could garner votes by promising higher wages, even though it would be businesses paying those higher wages."

    Obama is supporting raising the minimum wage because he is a shrewd politician (or, at least his handlers are). He knows that the majority of wage earners will look favorably upon the action hoping that their wages will, likewise, raise. They are not smart enough in economics to see the downside. That's what Democrats do. They appeal to the masses who have no inkling as to what is taking place in the economy. The heck with the welfare of the American economy... the important factor is get Democrats reelected by making the other party (Repubs who oppose the wage hike) look bad.

    True statesmen will look out for the good of the country's economy first, above their own political career. We have few real statesmen anymore in congress (and none in the Democrat party). That's why we have a $17 trillion debt and climbing. And that's why with country is going to the dogs.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 2:44 p.m.

    "Despite a few exceptions that are tirelessly (and selectively) cited by advocates of a higher minimum wage, the bulk of the evidence -- from scores of studies, using data mainly from the U.S. but also from many other countries -- clearly shows that minimum wages reduce employment of young, low-skilled people."

    ("Delay the Minimum-Wage Hike", by David Neumark, Wall Street Journal, June 12, 2009)

    Read the whole article.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 2:44 p.m.

    @Open Minded Mormon:

    "'A rising tide lifts ALL ships.' That's why."

    Raises in wages is not a rising tide. It's just the opposite. Higher wages businesses have to incur raises the cost of goods and services produced by those businesses... which slows purchasing and thus, economic activity.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 2:35 p.m.

    "Raise minimum wage"

    Yeah, sure... You wanna send millions of jobs over seas and put millions more American workers on the government dole?

    In the first place, the government has no business setting any kind of wage. That is the function of a free market system.

    We can thank the likes of Teddy Kennedy for the minimum wage. Like a true Democrat and politician, he new he could garner votes by promising higher wages, even though it would be businesses paying those higher wages. That is just plain thievery, pure and simple.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    "Legislators who support increasing the minimum wage believe that this policy will benefit poor families; however, our research indicates that past experience with minimum wage increases in the U.S. is at odds with this view. Minimum wages do, no doubt, help some families escape poverty; but the employment losses associated with a higher minimum also appear to cause some families to fall into poverty. On balance, our estimates suggest that the latter effect outweighs the former, and therefore the net effect of minimum wages is an increase in the proportion of poor families."

    ("Will Increasing the Minimum Wage Help the Poor?" by David Neumark, Mark Schweitzer, and William Wascher)

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Feb. 23, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    This will create more inflation and even further kill the value of the dollar.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    You know redshirt, I always wonder if you read the studies you cite. This is from the abstract of the Berkely study you cite:

    "We find no indication that the rise in the minimum wage reduced employment"

    This is from the conclusion of the Berkley study:

    "we find that the increase in the minimum wage increased employment. We present a wide variety of alternative specifications to probe the robustness of this conclusion. None of the alternatives shows a negative employment effect. We also check our findings for the fast-food industry by comparing changes in teenage employment rates in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and New York in the year following the increase in the minimum wage. Again, these results point toward a relative increase in employment of low-wage work- ers"

    Thanks, redshirt, for providing information that proves, once again, that you and your fellow conservatives are just plain wrong.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Feb. 23, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    Red Shirt actually labor statistics show 1) about half of minimum wage earners are under age 25..not teenagers. 2) only 23% of teenage wage earners earn minimum wage or lower. So even if rasing the minimum wage resulted in lower unemployment it certainly isn't a devastating blow to "teenagers" in general. Secondly, urban minimum wage earning teenagers are most likely to be working at national chains of one kind or another, and a national chains response to a minimum wage increase is not going to be laying off people..it's going to be a price increase, or productivity demands. And before you go there..most of these young workers are working retail..jobs not available to overseas workers..and the price increases are at most a couple of cents on some products.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    Consider the Supreme Court ruling on Obamacare and the reasoning of John Roberts on the subject of employer mandates. When looked at in this light, minimum wage laws are equivalent to a tax on employment of low-skilled workers.

    When we place a tax on something, we tend to get less of it. People adjust their behavior in order to avoid paying the higher tax. In the case of minimum wage, they hire fewer low-skilled workers.

    In economic terms, when the price of labor increases, the demand for it decreases. Raising the minimum wage results in the availability of fewer entry-level jobs.

    The way I see it, employment is a contract between the employer and the worker. Both are free to accept or reject the terms. Government has a proper role in enforcing such contracts, but it should not be dictating the terms. The terms are a private matter, or should be.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Feb. 22, 2013 8:00 p.m.

    Larry I think many businesses will suffer if minimum wage is increased. I wrote to Mike Simpson about it will have to see what he says. Hopefully it won't pass the House.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 3:50 p.m.

    To "atl134" your analysis is wrong. In the grocery store you have the 5 checkout lines running with 3 baggers, plus the 4 people in the bakery, 2 in the deli, plus the 6 guys who stock the shelves, 4 guys who unload the trucks, 1 guy watching the produce, 1 watching the floral department, 1 guy who cleans the floors. You now have 28 people that you have to pay $1.75 more. That means that per day you have to pay those people $490 more in wages and pay about $49 more in employer contributions to payroll taxes. Now, you have to pay out an additional $3773/week in salaries or $196,196/year in salaries.

    A grocery store is not a good place to measure the effects of raising wages because of the minimal hands on labor. Plus, that analogy doesn't take it back to the food production and transportation. If you follow the money trail back to the beginning, you may be supprised to see you food bill go up by 10% per month. Imagine what that does to a poor family that already struggles with food.

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    Raising the minimum wage does not result in job loss. Actual studies done on the subject, not just articles in conservative publications:

    Arindrajit Dube, T. William Lester, and Michael Reich, “Minimum Wage Effects Across State Borders: Estimates Using Contiguous Counties,” The Review of Economics and Statistics 92 (4) (2010): 945 – 964.

    David Card and Alan B. Krueger, “Minimum Wages and Employment: A Case Study of the Fast-Food Industry in New Jersey and Pennsylvania: Reply,” American Economic Review 90 (5) (2000): 1397-1420.

    Sylvia A. Allegretto, Arindrajit Dube, and Michael Reich, “Do Minimum Wages Really Reduce Teen Employment? Accounting for Heterogeneity and Selectivity in State Panel Data,” Industrial Relations 50 (2) (2011): 205-240.

  • micawber Centerville, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 3:21 p.m.

    RedShirt, I am curious. Why do you refer to an article published in the National Review by Veronique de Rugy as "the Berkley study"?

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 3:05 p.m.

    To "merich39" and "one old man" go and read "Minimum Wages and Employment: A Case Study of the Fast-Food Industry in New Jersey and Pennsylvania" at Berkley, "Raising the Minimum Wage: A Tired, Bad Proposal" at National Review, and "The Young and the Jobless" in the WSJ.

    They found that by raising minimum wages you create more unemployment.

    So, lets take your example and apply what we learn from the studies.

    John works at Walmart, and thanks to the higher minimum wage, is now able to get his family off welfare. Meanwhile because of the higher minimum wage Walmart now puts on a hiring freeze and allows the staff at their stores to shrink either through attrition or by firing people. You get one person off welfare (or reduce their welfare) and now put another one on unemployment plus welfare. However since John doesn't earn much, he pays no federal income taxes.

    How are we better off if we now we have gone from 2 people with few welfare needs to 1 person totally dependant on welfare? At best we break even, reality will probably show that we lose more than is saved.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    @One Old Man
    You know well educated people working for minimum wage? I don't think so. And if they are I question their education.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 2:13 p.m.

    @Invisible Hand
    "All of you min wage advocates should try starting your own business sometime. Before you rip on business owners for being greedy, walk a mile in their shoes. Try facing the day to day pressure of making payroll and paying vendors and contractors. "

    Let's pretend I'm manager at the Food Lion I worked at (I'm from out east). There's roughly 30 employees a day making near minimum wage and working 6 hour shifts (others make more and aren't affected). Let's say minimum wage goes up a dollar (or I increase the just-above-minimum wage a dollar to be just-above-new-minimum-wage). That's an extra 6 bucks an employee or 180 dollars a day.

    Now how many products does the grocery store sell in a day? Let's say that we scan 20 items a minute between the 3-5 checkout lines. Over the 10 hours the store is open (I'll exclude the early morning and late evening hours that are quieter) that's 12,000 items a day. To pay the 180 dollars to cover the minimum wage increase I'd have to charge an extra 1.5 cents an item. That's not a crippling price increase.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    Thinkin' man must not have been thinkin' when he wrote: "By the same logic, why should I as a consumer be forced to pay higher prices for goods and services to subsidize welfare for low-wage workers?"

    It's just like the argument about ACA. You are already paying big bucks for welfare. But you'll actually save money if we make it possible for people to pay their own medical bills -- and to work for a living wage.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    No, Midvalian, not all workers working for minimum wage are kids or people without education or skills. I know several, older, well educated people who are doing that now because their jobs were shipped overseas and they simply cannot find anything better.

    What we really need to do is reverse the dismaying loss of what was once one of America's shining graces - the idea that we are all working together and not in opposition.

    But greed gets in the way of that. Just look at what's happening with CEO salaries and bonuses.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Feb. 22, 2013 1:47 p.m.

    Get rid of the minimum wage! Why should I be forced to subsidize sub-standard employees, when I shop at wal mart or any other business. If you don't want to work for minimum wage, don't! Find or create a better job, if your so valuable!

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 1:36 p.m.

    So Marc,
    you want to punish those evil school districts who do not pay their 14 year old sweepers more than $7.25?

    Maudine,
    the 3 states with the higherst unemployment have higher minimum wages. the 6 states with lowest unemployment have the federal minimum wage.

    Redshirt,
    Interesting that you quote actual studies, but the lib "response" is to misquote Reagan. What the libs DO understand is the more people thay can make dependent on government, the more likely lierals are to retain power. that is the sole reason for everything they do.

  • merich39 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 1:36 p.m.

    One of the arguments against raising the minimum wage is that the companies (ie WalMart) will just pass those increased costs on to their customers. This is likely true. However, that is not necessarily a bad thing.

    Currently, someone who works at Walmart and makes the minimum wage will likely be dependent upon food stamps and other social services to be able to survive. WalMart customers pay a lower prices for their purchases and all taxpayers, not just WalMart customers, end up picking up the tab for the social services. By increasing the minimum wage and getting more taxpayers off of tax funded social services, we shift the cost of WalMart labor from all taxpayers to Walmart customers, where that cost properly belongs.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    To "Open Minded Mormon" how does creating more unemployment help? Yes, "A rising tide lifts ALL ships" but as the studies show that with respect to minimum wage, the tide is not rising. An equally valid statement is "a receeding tide strands all ships".

    As the Berkley study found, raising the minimum wage is a bad thing and will lead to greater unemployment.

    Your statements only confirm a lack of understanding. Historically, as I stated previously, raising minimum wage laws only increases unemployment.

    If you want to help the poor and get them employed you cannot keep raising the minimum wage becaue first it increases unemployment, and second it raises the price of the goods that we all need.

    You and your ilk constantly complain that businesses move overseas where labor is cheap. What do you think will happen when we make US labor that much more expensive? It is well documented that the right to work states have lower unemployment. Why is that? Could it be that the cheaper labor rates attract businesses? What will happen when US labor rates increase?

    Why do you want more people unemployed? Do you want more people dependant on government handouts?

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Feb. 22, 2013 12:41 p.m.

    RedShirt
    USS Enterprise, UT
    Wow, the comments here only show that most liberals do not understand business.

    First, according to the IRS, the majority of minimum wage earners are suburban teens and young college students. Why is it necessary to raise wages for that segment of society?

    ===========

    Wow, that comment only show that most conservatives do not understand economics.

    To use an old Ronald Reagan Republican aphorism...

    "A rising tide lifts ALL ships."

    That's why.

  • Invisible Hand Provo, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 12:41 p.m.

    All of you min wage advocates should try starting your own business sometime. Before you rip on business owners for being greedy, walk a mile in their shoes. Try facing the day to day pressure of making payroll and paying vendors and contractors. Maudine, what qualifies you to say how much anyone should make? Eric, in what universe are you living where if you raise the price of something you get more of it?

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 12:28 p.m.

    Wow, the comments here only show that most liberals do not understand business.

    First, according to the IRS, the majority of minimum wage earners are suburban teens and young college students. Why is it necessary to raise wages for that segment of society?

    The biggest reason why raising minimum wage is a bad idea is that it actually raises unemployment among teens. See "Minimum Wages and Employment: A Case Study of the Fast-Food Industry in New Jersey and Pennsylvania" at Berkley, "Raising the Minimum Wage: A Tired, Bad Proposal" at National Review, and "The Young and the Jobless" in the WSJ.

    Why do you liberals want to support an idea that historically leads to fewer jobs, and more demands on those with jobs?

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Feb. 22, 2013 11:45 a.m.

    Raising the minimum will stimulate business, as the underclass gets more purchasing power. There is no data to show that raising the minimum hurts business.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    Not a single business will fail due to a higher minimum wage.

    Any sane business owner will simply add a nickel or dime to their product or service.
    Consumers will pay it, and will not ever notice the few pennies more.

    Those who don't/won't and fail anyway,
    just prove they aren't very good business owners in the 1st place, they product or service is not worth it anyway, or they are simply looking to blame someone else for their own failures.

    Gas companies flex their prices several DOLLARS per gallon all year long, forcing consumers to pay $Hundereds more each month, and yet - ironically - not a single conservative, Tea Party Republican whines about that?

  • chilly Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    "The only down side to raising the minimum wage is possible inflation."

    Not really. Increasing in the minimum wage has usually increased unemployment among young workers. Hardest hit are young black people.

    Google: "WSJ The Minority Youth Unemployment Act"

    Also, Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell have written extensively on this topic.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    @Rikitikitavi
    "Increasing the minimum wage will in fact cause job losses because employers like me will hire fewer workers or else raise prices."

    So what you're saying is you currently pay your workers the bare minimum and your company is so inept at earning money you can't even afford a dollar an hour more per employee?

    "Either way inflation is the inevitable result."

    A small percentage of the workers in this nation getting a 1 dollar/hour pay increase would not substantially alter inflation.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 10:43 a.m.

    The only down side to raising the minimum wage is possible inflation.

    With those making higher earnings [and paying higher tax revenues and getting less tax payers subsidized food and housing].

    FYI - these were a huge portion of the 47% Mitt Romney and the rest of the Republicans were complaining about.

    You don't want people "mooching" from the system, pay them enough for them to have something to contribute.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 22, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    @Thinkinman

    "By the same logic, why should I as a consumer be forced to pay higher prices for goods and services to subsidize welfare for low-wage workers?"

    If you look at what I posted earlier, you should be concerned about you "subsidy" for the executives.
    They are the ones getting a disproportional amount of the pie.

    "Funny how liberals fail to realize that all of us pay when "corporations" are penalized financially. Check your 401K lately for what corporations you own?"

    Corporations are actually doing quite well. And in a large part because of the productivity gains of their workers. But CEO's and other executives are increasingly getting a disproportionate piece of the pie.

    How are they being penalized financially?

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    Terrific letter, making an argument I hadn't considered before. Well done. Oh, and Rikitikitavi, no you won't. You'll hire more people. You'll have to, to keep up with increased business. The stimulative value of a raise in minimum wage is an accepted and established economic axiom.

  • Thinkin\' Man Rexburg, ID
    Feb. 22, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    By the same logic, why should I as a consumer be forced to pay higher prices for goods and services to subsidize welfare for low-wage workers?

    Funny how liberals fail to realize that all of us pay when "corporations" are penalized financially. Check your 401K lately for what corporations you own?

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Feb. 22, 2013 8:39 a.m.

    You really do not know what you are talking about. Increasing the minimum wage will in fact cause job losses because employers like me will hire fewer workers or else raise prices. (or else both will be the result). Either way inflation is the inevitable result.

  • chilly Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    "America is twice as rich as it was back then. So why are American workers making less money?"

    The continued flood of immigrants into and manufacturing out of this country has made low skilled labor much more available, thus much less "valuable". We only have ourselves to blame for electing people who aid and abet these circumstances. If anyone thinks hiking minimum wage a couple of bucks will help anything - they're dreaming.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    The minimum wage would have to be raised to around $10.50/hr. just to regain the purchasing power it had in the sixties. Since the sixties, inflation adjusted per-capita GDP has doubled. In other words, America is twice as rich as it was back then. So why are American workers making less money?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 22, 2013 7:48 a.m.

    Excellent comment Maudine.

    Corporate profits have been steadily climbing. CEO and Executive pay has skyrocketed.
    Average worker pay has been fairly flat.

    From International Business Daily

    "Chief executive pay jumped by more than 725 percent between 1978 and 2011, according to a new report from the non-partisan Economic Policy Institute, compared to just 5.7 percent growth in worker compensation during the same period. The pattern contributes to the widening wage gap between the nation's highest earners and other earners -- something the report says is a driving factor of income inequality in the U.S."

    How does this get politicized? How does anyone, Republican or Democrat look at the above numbers and defend them?

    How did corporations and CEOs dupe so many of the working class of this country to defend the disparity in pay increases?

    How does anyone see a 725% increase for CEO's vs a 6% increase for the average worker as being good for the country?

    Put aside partisanship for just one minute and read what is quoted above. What does common sense tell you?

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Feb. 22, 2013 7:47 a.m.

    Most adults makking minimum wage get food stamps and subsidized rent. Thing is by raising the minimum wage you are raising prices to go with it. Businesses particularly small ones will pass the cost on to you anyway. As for ceo's if you bring in more money to them you deserve a pay raise yourself. Business owners work hard so you can have jobs and products you enjoy. Are they making you any poorer. They toil more than there employees too.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Feb. 22, 2013 7:39 a.m.

    A very thoughtful letter, and the minimum wage should be expanded to cover all gainful employment. At the present there are portions of the workforce that are not protected.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 6:51 a.m.

    Ideally you are not trying to make a living on minimum wage. You will be unhappy and miserable. Min Wage jobs are supposed to be for Kids who just entered the workforce and start at the bottom. If you remained at the bottom you have to ask yourself: what happened to me?
    If you decided not to learn a skill that is what happened. And if you had no opportunity to learn a skill, a min wage job can set you up for low wage management, and lots of other things.
    LET NOT pander to those who want to make a living flipping burgers. Sure raise the Min wage a bit, but not too much, its not supposed to be a living wage.

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 5:00 a.m.

    If the minimum wage had grown at the same rate as executive pay, it would be over $20/hour.

    Management does not need to make 300 times what the average employee of their company makes.

    And before you go off about how raising minimum wage is going to increase prices, please be sure to include in that comment why CEO pay isn't one of your concerns when discussing prices.

    PS - If you look at the numbers, very few minimum wage jobs are held by teenagers who have no financial obligations beyond themselves.

    PPS - Countries with higher equivalent minim wages, have lower unemployment.